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      Hi,

      I would suggest you extending your wbtb time
      From 4 -5 hours of sleep up to 6 - 8 maybe if it's possible
      The more we sleep the less time we spend in nrem before rem
      And staying in nrem is kinda tricky n' difficult
      So as the time passes wilding difficulty goes down?

      Anyways second advice:
      Don't focus, wait or look for sleep paralysis
      Same for any wild transition stuff like vibrations or hypnagonic images
      You don't need to meet any of these sensations to successfully wild

      I myself had lots of wilds in which i were just lying in most comfortable position for me while being still, using technique till just suddenly appearing in dream

      You need a three things for wake induced lucid dreams:
      - Be close to rem
      - Fall Asleep
      - Retain Awareness

      First one is probably one of most important ones
      Dreams happen mostly in rem and rarely in nrem
      The more we sleep the shorter nrem becomes and longer becomes rem
      Assuming that you don't screw up if you'd try wilding at night which is hard as heck then you'd need to endure probably over hour of nrem before entering a rem
      And that first rem phase would be short around five minutes long and quite dull i guess
      While doing wild after 6 - 8 hours of sleep might require only few minutes of nrem while having up to one hour and maybe even more of rem (That's how long you can be in your dream world, assuming that you won't lost lucidity or destabilize dream?)

      Second one is falling asleep
      Which is probably most important one
      Without falling asleep you won't be able to lucid dream.
      No Sleep = No Dreams
      No Dreams = No Lucidity
      It's simple as that.
      You need only body to fall asleep though, when your doing wild technique
      Your mind needs to stay conscious enough to increase awareness to become lucid or to endure whole nrem till you enter rem and begin lucid dream.
      Some wild techniques might result in you falling asleep slower, that's not bad assuming that technique will work and give nice lds
      As long as it's not longer than 30 minutes i'd call this a fine technique.
      Yet the technique could disrupt you slightly enough to be unable to fall asleep at all which would be the problem zone.

      The third one is retaining awareness aka using something to keep your consciousness up while your body is asleep
      It's just that simple
      Yet doing it is harder unfortunely

      I'd suggest you reading up those threads:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ild-guide.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ail-wilds.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...cid-dream.html
      Or just signing up for DVA's Sageous WILD Class

      And also remember to experiment
      WILDing is most personal technique out of all lucid dreaming ones i belive.
      You need to find something that works for you at the best rate
      You might try other peoples techniques or wild guides yet remember to experiment
      So if technique tells you to stay awake after 6 hours of sleep for 2 hours
      And after two hours your unable to fall back asleep then how about cutting time off to five minutes
      Five minutes not long enough since you fall asleep fast?
      How about 15 mins then?

      That kind of stuff
      And now Goodluck Fellow Dreamer
      Last edited by MisakaMikoto; 09-05-2014 at 12:53 PM.
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