Thread: Question- WILD when first going to sleep?

Only way to pull it off except some rare cases is to nap. WILDing when first going to sleep during a nap has worked for me a few times (I've only specifically tried once, the 4 times it's happened, 3 of the times I just suddenly found myself in REM Atonia for some reason, and getting into a dream from REM Atonia is one of the few things I'm actually good at). Otherwise, you need to sleep a good 3 hours at least, at least 5 works best. However there's no real reason to split hairs. If you find you've woken up naturally in the middle of the night, might as well give it a shot. I usually wake up 2-5 times a night assuming I can't really sleep in, so I'm pretty lucky there. I can sympathize with the inability to sleep though. I've finally got it situated, but ever since being a teenager I couldn't get to sleep, and after getting out of the military, I would stay up for very large amounts of time and then sleep for fairly large amounts of time. Nobody I was friends with that got out has said they weren't unable to sleep so far, so it seems to be pretty common.

The way I fixed it was to stick to a rather strict schedule regarding when I wake up and go to sleep, I try and eat about the same times every day, and I tried making a routine before going to bed. I thought I had tried this stuff before and that it really had no chance to work for me, but I hadn't really put in enough effort and I certainly didn't do it for long enough. That's the thing about this method--getting your body on a regular cycle takes some time. You might not get any solid results before two weeks time, but it's easily the best long term solution. It's worked better than pretty much every sleep medication I've ever taken OTC or been prescribed (they all stop working within a week, even with dosage increases, it only works for about another week).

Ok, thanks snoop! That was helpful but how am I gonna do that? I suck at keeping a schedule.

Originally Posted by Springlock

Ok, thanks snoop! That was helpful but how am I gonna do that? I suck at keeping a schedule.

It takes truly being fed up with the current state of affairs and deciding you're just going to do it whether you think it works or not, because it's better than what's happening right now. Commit to the idea because you want to change, not because somebody told you it could work and might help out with you problems. Do it because you want to. The fact it makes it easier to LD is secondary to the benefit that comes from lying in bed knowing you'll be asleep within an hour when it used to take you 3 to 4 hours before, how much more regulated and normal you feel when awake, and the pride you actually solved a problem you've been dealing with for a long time and without taking any shortcuts to do it. The ability to successfully LD definitely rises too, and that's just icing on the cake. You successfully learned to sleep when you need to, feel better during the day, feel better about yourself and be more confident in your ability to affect real change in your life, and be able to more successfully do what you love (LDing) all in one fell swoop.

I know where you're coming from though, I'm just the same way. Discipline in matters that I'm not absolutely required to exhibit it just doesn't happen, for the most part. I had just been dealing with my sleeping issues for so long (and have them get far worse for a while after leaving the military) and had so many medications fail me that I decided if everything was going to fail anyway, I might as well give the one thing I never really put much effort or discipline into for a while a shot, and after a month I started having truly rewarding results. It was about 3 months before getting to sleep in a timely manner was basically a certainty, and I'm glad I finally committed to doing it.

Also, don't get discouraged by failures when it comes to WILD. WILD is probably the most rewarding technique to get the hang of, but it's easily the most difficult with the highest learning curve. There will be mountains of failures before making real headway. I got my first WILD within 3 tries, my second two weeks after that, and it was 4 months or so before getting another. For a good while they were very sparse like that, until I stopped flying blind and got a feel for what it is that helps with success.

I've tried dild, fild, and mild, just so you all know, and WILD gave me my first and only lucid

And thank you again snoop

Also, even if you remember nothing. You should write that down as well. Just practice writing anything at first. And sit in bed for 20 minutes casually trying to think of stuff. If you actively try everyday, there's no way you wouldn't start remembering at least snippets of dreams.

Ohhh ok thanks!