Thread: Help me with WILD please. What am I doing wrong?

Hi Skyzor.

After reading your post I had but one thought: I really hate the internet sometimes.

It seems, from here, that you have picked up on all the notions that are so popular on the net (SP,HI, weird body sensations, techniques like counting and reverse blinking), but weren't able to get good information on what really matters in WILD.

WILD really isn't about all that stuff; it's about staying self-aware while your body falls asleep and enters a dream; period. Honestly, reading all the stuff you were doing and paying attention to, I am not at all surprised that you had trouble falling asleep!

Getting to sleep is vital to WILD. It might sound obvious, but if you're not sleeping you're not dreaming, so it is important not to do things that keep you awake, like counting and reverse-blinking so methodically (just keeping track of when to blink would keep me awake for the night, much less blinking so often and at specific counts). Ironically, I would pay a lot of money to be able to go to sleep immediately after a WBTB; you might consider that an asset, and not a problem. Also, the reason it is recommended to do WILD lying on your back is because it can be more difficult to go to sleep on your back; that way you have a bit more time on the fence between wake and sleep to gather your lucid mindset.

So from what you wrote, I would guess that your problem might lie in your mindset, and perhaps in overdoing the techniques while paying way too much attention to the noise that can accompany a WILD transition (but doesn't have to). If you haven't already, I highly recommend that you take a look at DV's WILD tutorial, and maybe even take my DVA WILD class; given the head start your ability to fall quickly asleep after WBTB affords you, I think you might find the information in both these places helpful.

Also, a couple of small things:

Originally Posted by SKYZ0R

I've been trying WILD lately at least 5 times a week, but no success yet.

That might be a bit too often; I would suggest trying once or twice a week, and spend more time preparing/anticipating a single WILD attempt.

Once I had the feeling that I could see my room through my closed eyes. I didn't feel my physical body at all anymore. The view was very dark and kind of faded. I tried to stand up because I thought this was the dream, but sadly it wasn't (did RC of course).

If you are "seeing" your room but know your eyes are closed, then you probably are asleep, or nearly asleep; You're seeing your room because your dreaming mind hasn't had a chance yet to present an actual dream, so, in an effort to provide some sort of dream content, it throws up the easiest image it can find, like your most recent waking-life memory (that being your room). Instead of doing a RC at that point, it might be better to just relax, tell yourself you're almost there, and wait for a proper dream to form: since your body is so close to being awake, the action of doing a RC -- or sitting up, for that matter -- might be enough to wake your body right back up again.


tldr: I think your main problem here is that you're paying attention to the wrong things, are not letting your mind get in the right place for sleep and lucidity, and are not relaxing. WILD is all about relaxing and falling asleep while maintaining waking-life self-awareness; no more, no less. I highly recommend that you try the DV WILD tutorial, or my DVA WILD class, and maybe attach less importance to the stuff you read on the internet.