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      Yeah, that is definitely some nice progress. If your eyes start going crazy and trying to open, it is best to try and ignore them. Keep them in a closed, but relaxed position and try to ignore the fact that they are moving around. When you start focusing on them or worrying about them, it gets worse. Nice job though on your first attempt. Just keep practicing !

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      really thanks bro u have really good tutorials and experience.
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      I THINK I got a LD last night, but forgot it
      Either that or I just fell asleep, I was out for around thirty minutes. Either way I probably need to work on my recall first, was getting ahead of myself considering I usually only remember a dream or two every MONTH!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Betropper View Post
      I THINK I got a LD last night, but forgot it
      Either that or I just fell asleep, I was out for around thirty minutes. Either way I probably need to work on my recall first, was getting ahead of myself considering I usually only remember a dream or two every MONTH!
      Yeah, it would definitely benefit you to work on building dream recall. Keep in mind that the more dreams you can recall, the more opportunities you will have to experience lucidity.

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      I think I should let you cover WILD.

      great job, man. I could learn from your experience.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidmax15895 View Post
      I think I should let you cover WILD.

      great job, man. I could learn from your experience.
      Thanks ! Well, I have WILDed so many times that I have experienced just about everything that comes along with it. I may have only recorded 69 of my WILDs, but I have actually had well over 100+. Experience is the best teacher, especially when it comes to WILDing.

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      Hello. I've tried this out for tree days now, and the first time was successful, the other time was a little successful and the last time was not successful at all. I didn't experienced SP at all. the first time, I just went from waking to dreaming immediately. The other times, I just couldn't fall asleep before I forgot the whole lucid dream thing. When I try to lay still and just get into SP, I'm just starting to shivering and my heart beats faster. I think its because I get excited or something. And the shivering makes me move, and that "resets" the timer that I read about somewhere here :/ Anyway, I'm just laying in the bed, trying to don't move, but I cant get into SP. At the end, when I fall asleep, I don't become lucid... What should I do!?!? Oh, and how do I know if I'm getting into a SP? Sometimes while trying get SP, my whole body starts to tingle a bit, but it disappears. Is that a beginning of a SP?
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      Ah, well you just need to keep practicing. 3 days isn't very long at all. WILD can take a bit of time to get used to at first. You have to find that balance of focus. You really have to tip toe the line between consciousness and unconsciousness.

      A lot of the things you mentioned are early signs of SP. The increased heart rate, the tingling and numbness, etc. When any of these things occur, just continue with the process. Keep striving toward falling asleep and act as if nothing unusual is happening. If you shiver and move, don't worry about it. The "timer" doesn't even apply to my technique. I move on purpose in my technique and often hit SP right after I roll over. The "timer" is used as a gauge in other WILDing techniques, but it isn't a set-in-stone thing. If you move, don't even worry about it. Just continue with the process as if you never moved in the first place. It won't cause you to fail your WILD attempt.

      Just remember that the entire goal of this process is to fall asleep. If you aren't able to fall asleep, you won't be able to WILD. The only difference is, you are witnessing/observing yourself fall asleep. Once you get into SP, you will know it. Don't even worry/think about, "Am I in SP? Am I close to SP? How long have I been laying here? ... etc" Just carry on with the process and strive toward falling asleep.

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      Almost as if you're calmly and detachedly observing someone else attempting to WILD.

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      thank you! this technique helped me a lot! i didn't have a real WILD, but i've had my firsts lucid dreams, and i'm starting to control it, because of this this community help! Thank you Yoshi, and Thank You DREAMVIEWS! my sleep nights will never be the same! thanks a lot!
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      Thanks for the good advices. But I have another question: When I wake up at 4.00 am I'm really tired. Do I have to do the relaxing technique anyway, or can I just skip that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by WDr View Post
      Thanks for the good advices. But I have another question: When I wake up at 4.00 am I'm really tired. Do I have to do the relaxing technique anyway, or can I just skip that?
      You can just skip it. With WBTBs, you can usually just skip the relaxation technique. You just came out of sleep so you should already be sufficiently relaxed. This is primarily used for day time naps or a long WBTB (if you spend a long time awake during your WBTB).

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      So I practiced this and got my dream recall to around two a day, and one day I tried this again in the morning just for the sake of trying. Boom, four seconds max I was in a dream, too bad it only lasted a few seconds

      Anyway, thanks for the technique!!
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      Hi King Yoshi,

      Thank you for your input and the dry spell killer technique! Killed.
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      Is this bonus section, about the Dry spell killer, based off of the "super-conscious" theory? Just curious

      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/possib...eaming-114161/

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      Nah, I didn't really base it off any specific technique really. I'm not familiar with the the "super-conscious" theory, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were similarities. Basically, all that Dry Spell Killer is, is a MILD technique. Used to help increase your chances of lucidity by aiding memory and using confidence. I'll have to take a look at the "super-conscious" theory for sure.

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      It's basically just applying complete confidence in your mind to work out any problem you may have or want to solve. By not thinking about a problem and relying on your subconscious (With 100% confidence) to fix it, your subconscious will find the answer for you as it works non stop applying any new data you receive while gaining experience and knowledge to the equation. One example is when you are trying to remember a song's name or the artist but you never figure out the answer at that time, then later it pops into your head randomly while you weren't even thinking about it. I guess it's close to synchronicity or relates to it, but i guess everything relates to it

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      Hey. Another question: Every time I wake up in the morning, I barely remember waking up 4 am, even if I know I did. But I cant remember what I did after that! Is it easier to get into SP if I'm a little awake first? Or is it better to be nearly sleeping?
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      Thank you! :]
      Haven't been able to recall my dreams in quite some time, but this guide helped me recall last night's!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Reclypso View Post
      It's basically just applying complete confidence in your mind to work out any problem you may have or want to solve. By not thinking about a problem and relying on your subconscious (With 100% confidence) to fix it, your subconscious will find the answer for you as it works non stop applying any new data you receive while gaining experience and knowledge to the equation. One example is when you are trying to remember a song's name or the artist but you never figure out the answer at that time, then later it pops into your head randomly while you weren't even thinking about it. I guess it's close to synchronicity or relates to it, but i guess everything relates to it
      Ah, yeah they are extremely similar. That is some neat stuff right there. It breaks down exactly how it works. Nice!

      Quote Originally Posted by WDr View Post
      Hey. Another question: Every time I wake up in the morning, I barely remember waking up 4 am, even if I know I did. But I cant remember what I did after that! Is it easier to get into SP if I'm a little awake first? Or is it better to be nearly sleeping?
      You want to be sleepy, but I would suggest staying up for a bit longer. The idea is to stay awake (during a WBTB) long enough to where you won't just crash out and lose consciousness, but short enough to where you will still be able to fall asleep rather quickly. You may only need to stay awake a few extra minutes.

      Quote Originally Posted by groovy View Post
      Thank you! :]
      Haven't been able to recall my dreams in quite some time, but this guide helped me recall last night's!
      Awesome, glad it helped out a bit. Good luck to you and keep up the good work !

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      hey, thanks so much for the help, but I really can't get into SP! Do you have any tips of getting into SP?

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      I've had some progress. Got home from school this afternoon and decided to nap, lay on my bed listening to isochronic tones, pretty soon I started feeling the familiar signs of HI. This time I got further than ever before, In the 'peripheral' vision of my mind's eye I had the impression of scenes, I heard voices, sometimes I could fully see these scenes, I even hear music.

      Trouble is that as these intensified, a muscle would jerk (my jaw snapped together once) or I would swallow automatically and the HH would vanish. Is this normal? Is the HH supposed to come and go?

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      Quote Originally Posted by WDr View Post
      hey, thanks so much for the help, but I really can't get into SP! Do you have any tips of getting into SP?
      Hmm, do you find yourself laying awake for a long time with no results, or are you crashing out and losing consciousness. SP starts once your begins to fall asleep. If you aren't able to get yourself to sleep, you can try some reverse blinking to aid the process. You also will want to have an anchor to help keep your mind conscious. I casually observe the darkness for my anchor, but there are loads of things you can try out.

      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      I've had some progress. Got home from school this afternoon and decided to nap, lay on my bed listening to isochronic tones, pretty soon I started feeling the familiar signs of HI. This time I got further than ever before, In the 'peripheral' vision of my mind's eye I had the impression of scenes, I heard voices, sometimes I could fully see these scenes, I even hear music.

      Trouble is that as these intensified, a muscle would jerk (my jaw snapped together once) or I would swallow automatically and the HH would vanish. Is this normal? Is the HH supposed to come and go?
      HH can definitely come in and out sometimes. The HH starts as you are falling asleep. If you get woken up a bit, the HH can fade, and return once you start to drift off again. The twitches/jerks likely didn't cause the HH to fade. It was most likely your attention to these twitches/jerks that caused it. If something like this happens, just don't worry or even think about it. Just continue and allow your body to twitch/jerk all it wants. It may take some getting used to in order to ignore these type of things, but just keep practicing. You are getting very close and I can almost smell the success rolling in ! Congrats on your progress and just keep at it!

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      Quote Originally Posted by KingYoshi View Post
      Hmm, do you find yourself laying awake for a long time with no results, or are you crashing out and losing consciousness?
      Chrashing out... Every morning I barely remember waking up 4 am! The only thing I remember is that I turn off the alarm, lay down, thinking that this time I will make it, and then.. black! Cant remember anything after that! this have happened almost every night for a week now! Do you have some anchors I could try out? Observing darkness didtn work...

      Oh yeah, BTW, what is ADA?
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      So I'm basically letting the jerks startle me out of HH? Makes sense xD I'm really excited about next time, I've got a feeling it may well be my first successful WILD
      Also, how exactly does reverse blinking work? I mean, I know what it is, but how exactly should I go about it, and for how long? Again, thanks for all the useful info/advice.

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