Thread: **CrazyInSane's WILD tutorial!!**

I tried this last night.
I used a custom alarm noise for my laptop. I used earphones (you know the kind that fit in your ear, but I hung them on the thingy on the back of my bed, near my head); because I'm always worried I'll wake someone up. The custom noise was me knocking on my computer (lol) just because I was too lazy. it was about 2 seconds long. Before I went to bed I tested it; but it wasn't very loud. I apparently never heard it last night. I might try to get one of those apps on my iPod touch, but that may be a problem because my mom, my brother, and my sister use it. Plus its broken. lol.

Any ideas on some good alarms? CrazyInsane: I would have used yours, but it would have probably jolted me awake and cause me to move in the middle of the night. Actually, it seems like a good one. I may try it tonight with stereo headphones. I guess I could keep it quiet too.

I don't have an iPod or a Laptop!
Does anyone use the "Meditation Timer/Therapist Timer- Invisible Clock II"? Has 12 Alarms to beep or vibrate at various times... Thinking of buying one as it looks like just the job for this technique. But are they any good?

How about those MP3 Alarm clocks though, would they work just as well?

I have something to tell you guys about this technique:
Huge Success ! It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

Let me start: Today I took an afternoon nap, as always. But, I decided to try the CAN-WILD, with one thing - as I'm not very good in visualization and have tried FILD a couple of times, I combined CAN-WILD with FILD.
The result: 2 LDs and one semi in like 15 minutes. They were short lived because I was ''late'' (I have slept 14:20pm, the whole thing happened 16:40pm, I have had enough sleep by then). I finished the LDs chain at 16:55~)
I think, now, that the second and third were in the same dream, because I don't remember using the fingers.

I'll go for what I have done: First, as said, I went to nap at 14:20pm, before that I set two custom alarms in the 12,24 app: One at 15:40pm to try the CAN-WILD and one at 16:40pm for me to wake up.
Right, I went to nap. First alarm rings, I forget about the technique, fell asleep again.
Second alarm rings, I remembered the technique, but I was afraid that I would lost the opportunity because I didn't know exactly how to transition, then I used FILD just to keep me conscious, as I am familiar with the technique and belive it's awesome if used with other techniques.
So, right, I start the fingers movement, without even moving, right that time I began to hear a not much loud, white noise, I knew I was close, then I fell my legs and members relaxing and they started to feel like they didn't exist anymore, I was now sure that I was dreaming by now. I forgot the before-standing-RC, I just got up and opened my eyes. I saw my room, but with a detail: My computer chair was down on the ground. there was others 2 or 3 school chairs along my room (one there) and the other two on the corridor, I knew I was dreaming, but I think: It is not right, there is no school chairs on my house ! Then did an nose pinch RC, the air was weak, but I could feel it. I have had chairs blocking my way in a lucid dream, a FILD, before. I used telekinesis to set my computer chair up and the others I just turned back and imagined that they weren't there, as expected, it worked.
Then I proceeded with the dream to the point I woke up. I stood still and began the FILD again, I got the same feelings, then entered another dream. In this one I woke up, but I think I didn't used FILD, I just stood still again and entered a semi-lucid one.

Well, that was a long post. You guys that are having problems with visualization, use an anchor, in this case the FILD technique, definitely it'll be my best technique, but in first place my DILDs that will be random along time, haha.

I am glad I'm making progress with this technique, I'll keep you people updated, as I'll try it again tonight.

That is awesome, Brunor 2. I know I will have trouble with the transition, so a CAN-WILD + FILD seems like the way to go!

Originally Posted by Sydney

That is awesome, Brunor 2. I know I will have trouble with the transition, so a CAN-WILD + FILD seems like the way to go!

That is good. I'm better knowing what I am doing, using FILD, than visualizing something, this way I can easly lose conscience.

Congratulations on the success Brunor2!
Sadly, my main problem isn't with visualization, it's from the incapability to wake up to the alarm staying still.

By the way, is: "It's hard to overstate my satisfaction!" a reference to portal perhaps?

Same here, Romansp.
Also I have trouble waking up to the alarm! Last night I never heard it. Maybe that was because I turned it down a bit; I'm afraid someone in the house will get spooked by the sound in the middle of the night I live with 3 siblings, so ya know. Any way I could possibly hear the alarm without waking anybody up?

Originally Posted by Romansp

Congratulations on the success Brunor2!
Sadly, my main problem isn't with visualization, it's from the incapability to wake up to the alarm staying still.

By the way, is: "It's hard to overstate my satisfaction!" a reference to portal perhaps?

Haha, it is.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Same here, Romansp.
Also I have trouble waking up to the alarm! Last night I never heard it. Maybe that was because I turned it down a bit; I'm afraid someone in the house will get spooked by the sound in the middle of the night I live with 3 siblings, so ya know. Any way I could possibly hear the alarm without waking anybody up?

Probably your only choice is a vibrating alarm.

I didn't had any success at my nap today. The alarms didn't woke me up.

I think I have an idea on what I could do once I achieve a CAN-WILD.

I'll do the CAN-WILD tech at exactly 6 hours after I've fallen asleep.
If that fails, then I'll do a WBTB and attempt at a WILD.
Then I might add an extra alarm an hour before I wake up in the morning.

Does that sound like too much in one night?

Originally Posted by Sydney

I think I have an idea on what I could do once I achieve a CAN-WILD.

I'll do the CAN-WILD tech at exactly 6 hours after I've fallen asleep.
If that fails, then I'll do a WBTB and attempt at a WILD.
Then I might add an extra alarm an hour before I wake up in the morning.

Does that sound like too much in one night?

I tried 6 hours alarms before, I get too awake and can't do my techniques, like the FILD/CAN-WILD. I usually set one for 3 hours and another one for 4:30 hours.

This seems promising - I haven't gotten it to fully work yet, I almost entered SP, got the tinglies but then it went away.. must have moved a toe heheh

Here's another idea for an alarm- I don't have a laptop or a PC in my bedroom so this works for me. If you have a cell phone with SMS (texting) service and a google account (like gmail) you can set an event with Google Calendar for when you want the alarm to go off. Turn on the SMS reminder for the event and make sure it's set properly- I usually go with 1 minute before. You can also set multiple reminders within the same event for several alarms.

Thus, you will recieve a text at the set time and your custom alarm noise becomes whatever you have set as your text message ringtone. Unless you have your phone set to remind you at intervals that you have a new message, it'll only go off once, and you're free to enter your dream without having to move

I don't text a whole lot, so I usually don't have to worry about people contacting me throughout the night. If you have to silence your phone at night or turn it off this might not be a good idea... google calendar is very basic and easy to use.. Hope this helps someone

Originally Posted by dfault01

Here's another idea for an alarm- I don't have a laptop or a PC in my bedroom so this works for me. If you have a cell phone with SMS (texting) service and a google account (like gmail) you can set an event with Google Calendar for when you want the alarm to go off. Turn on the SMS reminder for the event and make sure it's set properly- I usually go with 1 minute before. You can also set multiple reminders within the same event for several alarms.

Thus, you will recieve a text at the set time and your custom alarm noise becomes whatever you have set as your text message ringtone. Unless you have your phone set to remind you at intervals that you have a new message, it'll only go off once, and you're free to enter your dream without having to move

I don't text a whole lot, so I usually don't have to worry about people contacting me throughout the night. If you have to silence your phone at night or turn it off this might not be a good idea... google calendar is very basic and easy to use.. Hope this helps someone

That really does help,..a lot! Many thanks! I'd never heard of Google Calendar before, and I think for that your post is just as useful as CrazyInSane's first post (well, to me anyway!). My tape machine mangled the cassette I was using, so needed something to replace it without having to go purchasing iPods and Laptops just for this one simple thing.
Was going to buy an MP3 alarm clock radio, but I'll put that aside for now until I see more product reviews.

I've been lurking around this thread for quite a long time(months) and I've been getting a few good LD results. I don't like giving everyone the usual could've, should've and the "nearly dids". However, I think you do eventually get to know your own mind and ways of achieving through determination and gentle persistence....

Thanks again dfault01, cheers!

Originally Posted by Watchman

Thanks again dfault01, cheers!

No problem, good luck with it.. Just keep in mind how many texts you get- they add up fast! I think I get something like 500 free non-verizon texts each month, which seems like plenty. But they're probably like $.25 each after that

I still can't get this tech to work.. Usually what happens is I'll wake up shortly after the alarm noise goes off, without remembering hearing it.. Which I assume just means I wasn't in REM sleep. Either way, I'll get out of bed to grab some juice or something and go back to bed, doing lots of RCs. Waking up increases awareness for the dreams to come in the next few hours.. and therefore increases the chances of a DILD, right?

I wanna get one of those nifty sleep cycle monitors but as far as I know they're really expensive.

Good news and bad news.

Good news is: I woke up from the alarm. I had the earphones under my pillow, and my PC was turned up to full blast.
The bad news is; After I woke up from the first alarm, about 2 seconds later I heard the house make one of those noises (you know the creaking sound) twice. I got scared (I can't believe I'm still scared of SP) and opened my eyes and moved my legs. It sucks though; because today I'm going to my dad's house and my room is like a balcony (so it has no door, and the walls come up to my chest), so I don't know if I can do a CAN-WILD. When something goes off it echoes throughout the house. But what I may try is put the headphones under my pillow again, and maybe it'll be muffled.
Hopefully tonight I'll get some results and not be afraid of SP

I'm experimenting with this technique aswell. I go to bed at about 23:30 and set my alarms at 5:00, 6:00 and 7:00 (I get normally wake at 7:30).

The alarm jolted me awake twice on the first night and I slept through the third one.

Second night yielded some progress: I woke up without moving and was quite conscious of what I was doing. However I got excited which resulted in me being a little bit too awake. I fell asleep again pretty quickly though but didn't get any SP. Same thing happened after the second and third alarm so I tried a normal WILD instead (with not much result).

Going to try this tonight at the same intervals again (seems to be working). Since this is the third night trying I hope I can master my excitement/thoughts a bit after waking up.

I explained in my previous comment that I got scared of SP and moved. Also while I was laying there for that short 2 seconds, I was wondering what should I do while I wait for the SP to come. (If I have missed this in the tut, I'm sorry) So, what should I do while waiting for it?

Originally Posted by Sydney

I explained in my previous comment that I got scared of SP and moved. Also while I was laying there for that short 2 seconds, I was wondering what should I do while I wait for the SP to come. (If I have missed this in the tut, I'm sorry) So, what should I do while waiting for it?

Visualize something, with tactile sensations, and visual.

Oh yeah. My bad. I remember now.

Well Singularity, that certainly motivates me; knowing that you had a similar lucid dream to mine, with high vividness. Perhaps you're right, if a DILD can feel as vivid as real life, CAN-WILD can probably do wonders.

I believe that, if you wake up without an alarm clock by setting the intention to, then the technique itself should be classified as a DEILD.

I keep falling asleep after waking up, so for my next attempt, I think I'll try turning the sound up higher, and setting the alarm to play for 10 seconds instead of 5.

Originally Posted by Romansp

Well Singularity, that certainly motivates me; knowing that you had a similar lucid dream to mine, with high vividness. Perhaps you're right, if a DILD can feel as vivid as real life, CAN-WILD can probably do wonders.

I believe that, if you wake up without an alarm clock by setting the intention to, then the technique itself should be classified as a DEILD.

I keep falling asleep after waking up, so for my next attempt, I think I'll try turning the sound up higher, and setting the alarm to play for 10 seconds instead of 5.

Heh, well I'm glad I could motivate you. My attempt didn't go so well, though. I was too excited I guess, because I woke up naturally about an hour earlier than I wanted to. That left me groggy and basically ruined my chances, even though I did get back to sleep. The main thing I need to suppress is the instinct to look at the clock every time I wake up! Sometimes, like today, starting around 8:30 I pull myself out of a drowsy state every couple minutes to look at the clock. I'm too worried I'll sleep through my alarm, or that it won't go off, I guess. I know I could do something with that drowsy half-asleep state if I can just make myself stay in bed! xD Well, there's always tomorrow, I guess. Although if I'm too tired, Saturday might be better.

Well, mines were pretty real, not the best I have had, but it was a nap and short lived.

I do the same, Romansp. I fall asleep as soon I wake up from the alarm. My alarms play for 30 or 20 seconds on max volume.

Well, no results.
I set the alarm for 3:15am.
I woke up naturally (ugh) at 2:55.. which really ticked me off. So I reset the alarm to 3:45. I layed back down in bed, and kept tossing and turning. I just couldn't go back to sleep. I think it was because I came in contact with the computer. So I closed my laptop and gave up.
Tonight I think I'm going to do the same thing again.

No results tonight either.
I set my alarm for 3:30, then went to bed.
Then I woke up at 12 something (like I have been for some reason the last 2 attempts)
I went back to bed. And guess what I woke up at.
3:28.
How in the world does this happen all the time!?
Oh well, I'll try again tonight. Anyone know of a solution for this? (waking up right before your alarm)

You can try setting the alarm earlier in the day so that you forget about it at night. But then you have to train yourself not to move when it goes off.