Thread: Apple Juice = Vivid dream?

Originally Posted by Simplicity0

All I can imagine it doing is causing you to wake up in the night to go to the bathroom

Even if so, that is beneficial to recall. You tend to wake up at the end of a REM cycle to use the bathroom, so recall should be at its highest for the preceding REM episode.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Even if so, that is beneficial to recall. You tend to wake up at the end of a REM cycle to use the bathroom, so recall should be at its highest for the preceding REM episode.

Exactly.
Definitely has it's positives. xD

Not gonna lie...Im brand new to attempting this lucid dreaming stuff, as of two days ago. I tried this apple juice before bedtime and in the middle of the night thing and I have to say the dreams that I had last night were some of the most lifelike dreams Ive had in a long time. With that being said, I had no idea they were dreams at the time and would wake up and say "damnit, ill realize its a dream NEXT time" , only to have another dream and not realize its a dream. Im so bad.

Anyway, it at least helped me have more memorable and realistic dreams than I usually do.

I tried this last night. Had a glass before bed and a glass at around 3:00. I woke up around 5:00 am to use the bathroom and record my dream. I have to say, I didn't really notice a huge difference. I was able to recall in detail, and it was my first DJ entry for a little while. But I'm willing to chalk that up to being more active because I was experimenting with something new.

Can I eat apples instead of drinking apple juice to get the same effect? That is, to achieve vivid dreams?

Welp, Im back to say I had my first ever lucid dream (although it lasted like 5 minutes) 2 days after drinking apple juice before bed. Not sure if its because I've been doing a lot of reading on here about it, or its the juice, or both.

Absolutely unreal. I could feel the sun on my body. Really neat. I dont understand why this is not more popular or commonly known about...I look forward to going to sleep now.

Thanks for all the cool information on this website.

Congratz! Hmm I need some apple Juice at my house. my mom never buys juice though. I've asked but I guess she always forgets.

I'm going to try this. I'll report my results.

I have tried using Apple Juice (Concentrate) on three seperate mornings over the last week. Not consecutive mornings however.

First two times were after sleeping approx. 5 and-a-half hours, then getting up via the alarm clock, then drinking about half a cup of the Apple Juice from the fridge whilst having a 10 min. WBTB. (Probably do an RC check whilst awake during this time.)

(N.b: I would probably take another 10-15 min. trying to drop off to sleep.)

Result: On both occasions I did get a short lucid dream, but in general I would say that I did have a better than average recall.

Last night: This attempt was near enough the same as the first two. The main exceptions being an extended WBTB time of approx. 33 minutes. Also it took me approx. 40-50 min trying to get back to sleep. (Relaxation exercise included!)

This is probably due to me deciding to experiment with the mixture a little by making an Apple Juice 'cocktail', by adding a little bit of white wine to it. My excuse being that the wine had gone a bit 'flat', so had to be used up! This made my cup about three-quarters full.

I then ate a banana.

Spent the other 20 odd minutes listening on the radio, contemplating my surroundings; including an RC check, then went to bed after a trip to the bathroom.

Result: (Apart from a grumbling stomach.)
Firstly had a Sleep Paralysis type lucid dream where I could feel the vibrations leading to a sort of strong sinking/floating feeling with good lucidity and relocation. Quite pleasant!

A couple more non-lucid dream snippets. One where my GF tried to get into bed with me where she was fully clothed.

Then finally having a really bizzare 'sexual' type dream (which is not that common for me) which was very vivid, auditory and tactile in nature. (I class it as a vivid dream only, because lucidity did not cross my mind. However I think that I did change something in this dream whilst it was happening?)

Also I was able to visualise and create hypnopompic type dream scenes whilst half-awake. (Alot easier for me than normal.)

Conclusion: I would recommend using the Apple Juice which does seem to help. You are not guaranteed a lucid dream, but dreams in my experience generally did seem more vivid. I will certainly be trying it again! (Time will tell however as one Swallow doesn't make a Summer.)

However I would add that the concentrate version does contain alot of sugar, so do wash your teeth afterwards.

It might help if you have tried WBTB before where you have had some sort of lucid or SP experience, rather than using it for a first time attempt IMO. If I had never had a lucid dream / SP prior to this then this would have freaked me out!

Mind you I did mix it with wine - I do not advise beginners do this, if you have a dependency, or if you are driving soon afterwards.

(11/4/12)

Tried the same WBTB technique this morning after having about 5 hours of sleep with the exception that I slept on after my alarm (which was set at 5am) by 8 minutes.
I then got up, made my Apple Juice cocktail in the kitchen with no banana this time. WBTB routine lasted half-an-hour, as usual.

Went to the bathroom; then back to bed where I dropped off to sleep quickly this time.

Results:
Woke up approx. an hour later (6.36am) where I had a dream where I was talking to this girl about ordering something off a menu card at this table. I didn’t seem with it. I had to explain to her that I felt tired, “like another world”. It felt like it was five in the morning?

However, this was a non-lucid dream.

After waking up from this I did feel a little ‘disappointed’ that I felt this morning’s experience was ordinary when comparing it to my previous times.

However, I must have dropped off to sleep again where I had a very vivid dream experience to put it midly!

I’m not sure on the exact start of the dream, nor what type of dream it is. I did record it quickly this morning first thing as ‘OBE / Lucid’ but on later reflection I’m not sure this labelling is correct as I did not have any real control or reasoning.

Basically from what I remember is feeling a sort of turning sensation whilst in bed I think. It seemed easier after as if I was on some sort of bubble, which helped me rotate. Next I seemed to be looking upwards, not really seeing anything at first. I strain to open my right eyelid to see where I notice some light. (Like when you are trying to wake up.) I then close it.

(Note: I can't do this in real life unless I hold my left eyelid down first.)

Next I see sunlight / the sun, which is not blinding or strong. It feels like I’m in a big panoramic scene, sort of rectangular. (I am tempted to say a room, but I’m not sure of this?) This view I get is absoutely amazing.

I now see a TFT monitor screen showing some media channel , which is upside-down. (Text / screen colours mostly red like Sky TV, etc.) I remember reaching out and turning it around to the correct way with my hands.

I think that I had a couple of false-awakenings after this, even one where I was writing the dream events down. One was where I dreamt it was 9.40am.

This seemed to tie in to the next part of the dream where my bedroom is like it is open-plan. There is a room next to it where the door is ajar. The TV is on (I think in that room?) where the sound seems to drown out everything to the point of distraction. I think my sister features in this dream somehow.

I am standing about a metre or so to the right of my bed. I feel drained. I feel tired. I feel SP vibrations going down my arms to the point where it starts to hurt and where ‘energy’ starts to come out of my hands and fingers. (My arms are at my sides.)

After I remember seeing two A4 size pictures (possibly both mine?) which are mounted in ‘click frames’ with wood-board backs which were warped by the heat. Both pictures were one above each other on a wall with bluish wallpaper with flower designs on it. I got the impression this was my old bedroom.

The pictures, where the lower one of which seemed to be of the cottage I had drawn (but had a bit of colour in it now in this dream) were above a small wall mounted radiator.

Woke up at about 7.41 am.

Went to sleep again until 9.50 am when I got up. (During this time I had no other dreams to report.)

Conclusion:
Apple juice more than just a placebo effect?

Originally I wasn't going to attempt, or even try a WBTB as I had a splitting headache for most of the day, probably due to being tired. Therefore I didn't bother setting my alarm clock as usual. I just went to bed with an aching head still.
Woke up this morning naturally at about 5.05 am, feeling better.
Remembered a short dream which I wrote down. The name 'Wendy Craig' (British TV actress) cropped up.

I got out of bed for 10 mins. finally finishing the juice carton off. (No wine this time, or banana.)
Back to bed where I dropped off to sleep quickly.

I did manage to recall (quite well) about 3-4 dreams afterwards. Two of which it crossed my mind 'if I was dreaming' but I failed to carry out RC's.
The first dream (before 7.58 am) involved an episode of Sleep Paralysis and associated vibrations, where I heard a part of a sentence containing the word 'dying' which was a bit spooky!
(I was somehow sleeping on part of my front, with my legs outstretched in real life in the bed, as well as it seemed to be so in the dream.)

In one of the paragraphs / sentences above I have used the word 'failure'. However I mean the term in a more general, sort of looser sense. The reason being, I think that you always gain something out of every experience, no matter what.

I tried it last night along with a vitamin B-12 tablet and it was quite a cool experience (placebo or not) for a beginning dreamer. Now, background, I currently have mono so I am very tired all the time. So last night I remembered four dreams, which is a personal record for me! However, I remember thinking to myself, "I need to roll over and write this down in my journal", but was too exhausted to even do that. Three of the dreams I was not lucid whatsoever...which isn't a big deal considering I'm three days into the world of lucid dreaming. However, all of those dreams were quite vivid and I remembered the majority of the details. Also, I had a layer 2 minor lucid dream as well!

LOL Boo-Radley.... Epic name! Hahahaha. I did a study on that book at school this year.. xD

So happy i found this one! i had my first lucid dream from a wbtb and drinking a bunch of aj, simply cause its my favourite! cool to know it helped

woot!?!? Nobody never told me to drink apple juice for LD's this seems to be top-secret
I got my L-theanine pills today and trying them, but tomorrow I will buy apple juice!!

Wow , surprised about this apple juice thing, im gonna try it tonight, going to drink some before bed and some after 5-6 hours of sleep. Lets see how it goes

Well... after trying this my first time, is this MAGIC or what? i had 4 dreams, 3 vivid dreams with good recall, and also 1 LD and almost a second one. This thing works!!! Placebo? i really dont think so.

However, this is what i did. I had a glass and a half before bed, then after 4-5 hours had 2 full glasses, it took me a while to fall asleep, like hour and a half after i had the AJ, then i was dreaming and became lucid.
Everyone should try this.

If I eat an apple before I go to bed, will it have the same effect as an apple juice?

Tried 4 times and noticed no significant change. I'll continue.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Tried 4 times and noticed no significant change. I'll continue.

For me I don't even think the apple juice truely helps, I think its the fact the first time I did it I had heard so many storys were it did help so I truely BELIEVED it would work...leading to my first LD

Originally Posted by OwenLucid

For me I don't even think the apple juice truely helps, I think its the fact the first time I did it I had heard so many storys were it did help so I truely BELIEVED it would work...leading to my first LD

I hope no one reads my post then and fails with it. >.< I'm trying again tonight.

Hahaha its probly just me but yeah good luck man!

Originally Posted by OwenLucid

For me I don't even think the apple juice truely helps, I think its the fact the first time I did it I had heard so many storys were it did help so I truely BELIEVED it would work...leading to my first LD

False...

Apple juice helps in the production of Acetylcholine which is key for memory and awareness... So, yes.. It literally does help...

Originally Posted by NightSpy2

False...

Apple juice helps in the production of Acetylcholine which is key for memory and awareness... So, yes.. It literally does help...

If you really read what I said, I said what I think worked for "ME" I wasn't stating any facts, so if you think what I feel is false, then you my friend are the one that is false.