how do you not go to sleep?

**Shebba** · 03-04-2011 04:57 AM

i was wondering how to not go to sleep when i wake up from 3-5 hours of sleeping for a WBTB+WILD beacuase i always just drift really easy =X
p.s. i don't know if this question was answersed already and if it is can you give me a link to it? and i don't know if this should be moved to a different section of the forum either

or if it's in the right place.

**Shadow27** · 03-04-2011 05:36 AM

Use an anchor or perhaps some caffeine. I sometimes simply focus on my own consciousness.
It makes it easy to spot when it drifts

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**LikesToTrip** · 03-04-2011 06:41 AM

How long are you staying awake during your WBTB? As a general rule, if you fall asleep unconsciously than you should stay awake longer. If you can't fall asleep at all you should stay awake for a shorter period. Also how many hours do you sleep in a normal night? I normally can't WILD until after ~7hours of sleep, but I get over 10hrs a night. Have you ever meditated? Meditation is extremely beneficial to WILDs and maintaining focus on your anchor.

**Shebba** · 03-06-2011 07:52 AM

well i really only get at most 7 and a half hours of sleep unless it's the weekend. so i'll try 4 hours of sleep maybe? and i have done some meditation but stopped at one point i should do it again

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**burton_bean** · 03-04-2011 02:32 PM

Think about a big fat white penis. This may sound vulgar, but how many times have you fallen asleep when you're thinking about a big fat white penis? That's right never.. Forget about counting the sheep and start visualizing the sch-long.

**LikesToTrip** · 03-06-2011 08:21 AM

Yea I'd say 4-5 hours should be good, it's different for every person. Play around with it and once you have success you'll know about how many you need. If you wake up and can remember a dream that is really fresh on your memory you should be good.
I strongly recommend meditation. WILDing and meditation are very similar, I sometimes describe it as 'meditating yourself to sleep.' When I had my first few WILDs I was meditating almost every night.
Also, don't be discouraged if you aren't having success early, WILDing isn't very easy to learn(for most people). It took me months to have my first WILD and a couple more months to get them somewhat consistently. As long as you stay determined and dedicated to practicing you WILL eventually have one.
I don't know if you have seen these or not, but I think these are two good guides to read for some pointers.
How to Lucid Dream - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource
http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/mzzkcs...-guide-105484/
Good luck! Happy dreaming