Thread: SilverBullet's Newly Revised Key to Lucid Dreaming

Originally Posted by Zenithar66

I feel your guide is indeed good, but the only point i would disagree with is the dream journal. I feel if one wants to truly invest both there concious and sub-concious mind in the goal then a dream journal is vital and a must. Not to mention the fun of simply keeping one!
I mean, if you not recalling your dreams then you sure as hell wont wont recall lucids. Keeping a dream journal firmly cements that intent in your mind and gives you insight into your nightly sojourns as a bonus!

When you build up a big journal(i have nearnly 300 word pages in 3 years) you can begin conducting surveys to find out what enviroment you've been in most and use it as a dreamsign!

great post though, i know it will help many people!

I don't use one, I have pretty good recall. I've tried using one before, it never really helped at all at it was boring writing all the stuff down.

well, in my honest opinion i feel one really must keep a dream journal if you are commited to lucid dreaming. It is the basic requirment, but since you have good recall already imagine how much better it could be!

i find one of the ways to stimulate a vivid dream or to easily remember dreams is to flick through my journal at night...it gets your mind accessing a whole separate set of memories(dream ones) and thinking in a different way!

each to his own though...

Originally Posted by Zenithar66

well, in my honest opinion i feel one really must keep a dream journal if you are commited to lucid dreaming. It is the basic requirment, but since you have good recall already imagine how much better it could be!

some people just have naturally good recall, or you can build recall and stop having to use it after a long period of time of doing so.

I just thought of something that might make this method a thousand times easier than it already is, but is only for people who have already written down lucid dreams in their dream journal.

Since you basically have to trick your mind into thinking you are a master at lucid dreaming, just read through all your previous lucid dreams in your dream journal, and that will surely make you more convinced that you can lucid dream much more easily.
Feel all of those feelings that you felt after you woke up from the lucid again, just remember what it was like to have that amazing feeling of being completely aware that you were dreaming, and doing whatever you wanted.

My guess is that with all of those feelings harnessed from previous lucids, it will be much easier to feel that confidence that you WILL lucid dream.

Originally Posted by frenchblablabla

I just thought of something that might make this method a thousand times easier than it already is, but is only for people who have already written down lucid dreams in their dream journal.

Since you basically have to trick your mind into thinking you are a master at lucid dreaming, just read through all your previous lucid dreams in your dream journal, and that will surely make you more convinced that you can lucid dream much more easily.
Feel all of those feelings that you felt after you woke up from the lucid again, just remember what it was like to have that amazing feeling of being completely aware that you were dreaming, and doing whatever you wanted.

My guess is that with all of those feelings harnessed from previous lucids, it will be much easier to feel that confidence that you WILL lucid dream.

This is a great idea and the reason i believe it is becuase this is actaully what happened to me 3 days ago!!

It all comes down to dedication, REALLY desiring it and making it an integral part of you daily thought process, not just an abstract wish or goal, but an important event taking place at night..

anyway, the ohter night i decided to do a survey of my dream journal to see how many lucids I'd had since i started just over 3 years back..Turns out i had 23! which is more then i thougth, granted only about 6 were pure mind blowing life chanignly amazing each one was special and i was able to harness those feelings your talking about. i was getting so excited thinking back and was able to recall all the imagery from the dreams as though they were yesterday!

now, the same night i had THE BEST lucid dream i ever had(though i must practce beleiveing i am a lucid master,i really like the sound of that!).
This seems the key because i usually have my most vivid non lucid dreams AFTER spending an hour before bed reading over my dream journal!

looks like you thoughts on this matter are true!

People seem to be confused or not reading the first post, I said a dream journal is optional, if you want to keep a dream journal do it, if you don't then don't!

SilverBullet this sounds like THE technique I have been waiting for my entire life. I have studied the subconscious mind for years now, and I fully agree with you. This should be the only technique, or can I even name this a technique, it is an attitude!, on the forum, I am very grateful! Thanks!

Hear soon!
Dicci0308

hmm, looks promising. Let me try this. I'll post back for any results. Hope this improves my LD numbers.

Hi Marsupilama!

Do you mean that you truly believe it, on the subconscious level? Because if you mean that, you could power this belief with selfhypnosis! Ever tried? I think I am going to power every belief listed in the tutorial. Of course with selfhypnosis! I thnk selfhypnosis us a great "helper" for this one, don't you think so?

Wish you many lucid journeys!
Dicci0308

Nah, I haven't had the time to look into selfhypnosis. I'd probably try using the nlp angle first on changing my subconsciousness....

This is an awesome thread. Someone in the beginning of the thread said to attach the thought of lucid dreaming with an emotion. This works for me because most of my dreams are about emotional things that happen in my day. Things that I care about or worry about. So if do what this tutorial says and attach it to say excitement or even better confidence, then im more likely to have a lucid. This is what I've been doing this past week. Its been working well for me.

Hello, just bumping this thread because there is arguing on the old one.

Thanks for your effort and desire to help!

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

*I strongly advise you read Carlos Castaneda's "The Art of Dreaming" book if you already haven't. If it weren't for that book I wouldn't be the lucid dreamer I am now.

I have started reading Carlos Castaneda's "The Art of Dreaming" on your recommendation. I am now about one third of the way through. Could you please give me more details as to why you feel this book is important to your lucid dreaming?

I agree with your premise that this is easy! However, I find it much more challenging to remember my dreams when I don't keep my dream journal up. Any non journal memory building advise?

WBTB is essential to my success (in fact that's what I am doing right now) and once I have an LD I find I can enjoy multiple LD's through "chaining" if I am careful not to move much. But when I "chain" my memory suffers!

I prefer the dream quality of MILD's over WILD's but WILD's are more reliable for me. Your recommendation may seem better suited to MILD's. Any ideas?

If WILDing comes easily to you I strongly advise you to develop that skill. There some oneironauts who would give their right arm to WILD with ease.

i really wish i could do this, but i dont know how to access the strong emotion of love for lucid dreams. :/

Originally Posted by LucidRaider

i really wish i could do this, but i dont know how to access the strong emotion of love for lucid dreams. :/

Think of all the times you became lucid, feel the feeling you had when you were lucid.

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Think of all the times you became lucid, feel the feeling you had when you were lucid.

But... I do, i try that... and i try to believe that lucid dreaming is easy, and that i can do it naturally, but then for some reason, when i try to believe it, .... my brain freezes, like its rejecting those thoughts ... and then i think stuff like "am i believing it too much?" and thats just ridiculous. :/... and i feel like this method is the one for me... and i need to do it...

Went and read art of dreaming straight after finding this and great story! silverbullet, can you personally confirm any of the more abstract parts of the book? also had an awesome flying lucid dream just last night, think i'm finally getting the hang of it!

^^ Off topic, but I like your name, frenchie lol. For some reason it makes me think of the French Connection. Im guessing your not French though because your from Australia. But you could have French in you.

And LucidRaider, I think you just have to try and get those negative thoughts and beliefs out of your mind and keep practicing. Like SilverBullet said, you just have look back at all the lucids you had and know that tonight is going to be the same as those nights. You WILL lucid tonight. There's no its, ands, or buts about it lol.

I freakin love this tutorial.

Do all this.

I add one thing.

Practice meditation daily.

It will give you more clarity of mind and help you to be more aware. And feel better.

Attitude is the most important thing.

Persist in keeping the attitude that you are a dreamer. No matter how long it takes.

Originally Posted by Frenchie

Went and read art of dreaming straight after finding this and great story! silverbullet, can you personally confirm any of the more abstract parts of the book? also had an awesome flying lucid dream just last night, think i'm finally getting the hang of it!

I believe it to be true, I believe that reality is only a perception. Making this no more real or fake than your dreams.

Have you ever heard of string theory? It's the idea that reality itself is not real the way we think it is.
Infact, when they get down to the very matter that makes everything it actually defies the laws of physics. It doesn't have mass, neither is it really solid.

Thanks silver! just had another night of lucidity this is so awesome!

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

I believe it to be true, I believe that reality is only a perception. Making this no more real or fake than your dreams.

Have you ever heard of string theory? It's the idea that reality itself is not real the way we think it is.
Infact, when they get down to the very matter that makes everything it actually defies the laws of physics. It doesn't have mass, neither is it really solid.

I found that I had to painfully push myself to finish Carlos Castaneda’s book: “The Art of Dreaming.” Initially the subject matter was some what intriguing and made me ponder the core of my belief system and internal ideas about reality, and religion, but sadly as I read on it left me hanging. I went from wondering whether or not there was some great "truth" to be learned to thinking that this is just another poorly fabricated fiction. I am left perplexed as to how this can help with my lucid dreaming practices…

Originally Posted by DukeDreamWalker

I found that I had to painfully push myself to finish Carlos Castaneda’s book: “The Art of Dreaming.” Initially the subject matter was some what intriguing and made me ponder the core of my belief system and internal ideas about reality, and religion, but sadly as I read on it left me hanging. I went from wondering whether or not there was some great "truth" to be learned to thinking that this is just another poorly fabricated fiction. I am left perplexed as to how this can help with my lucid dreaming practices…

Alright, I'm just glad you read it, you can do whatever you want with the information you have.