Is it possible to go from awake to lucid dream without having to wake in the night?

**soulfulcreature** · 12-16-2012 01:41 AM

Hey guys, is it possible to get in to bed at night, lay there consciously, let your body go to sleep, and eventually the dream will build around you, therefore you have went from laying in bed straight in to a dream?

I'm wondering if this is possible without having to wake up at night and attempt it that way?

Like WILD but cutting out the middle man (middle man being waking up 5/6 hours into sleep)?

Cheers!

[EDIT: 'including reply into my OP']:

Also, is there any advice on this technique?

**Sensei** · 12-16-2012 01:44 AM

Yeah. It is just hard. I know someone that does it every night. He just keeps consciousness through NREM.

**soulfulcreature** · 12-16-2012 01:46 AM

Thanks for the reply!

I'll give it a shot!

**soulfulcreature** · 12-16-2012 01:50 AM

Also, is there any advice on this technique?

**thesimp** · 12-16-2012 01:53 AM

Try to take a mental note of that transitional area between your non-conscious and conscious state.

**Sensei** · 12-16-2012 01:55 AM

You have to let your mind wander but still keep track of your thoughts. It is a very hard balance. It is even harder if you are trying it at bed time like that.

**MarineRecon** · 12-16-2012 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

You have to let your mind wander but still keep track of your thoughts. It is a very hard balance. It is even harder if you are trying it at bed time like that.

Yep, it's hard to find that thin line between awake and asleep. It is easy to fall asleep, but it's just as easy to snap out of falling asleep.

**angie746** · 12-16-2012 02:39 AM

Hi soul, I go from straight in bed on a night into lucid dreams. Not every night of course but when I want to

getting the balance right Is hard, but after a good few times it does get easier and after a long time of doing it it can seem so very natural and it doesn't take long. I'm just about to go sleep now but will pop back on to message you tomorrow and give you some advice.

**soulfulcreature** · 12-16-2012 03:20 AM

Thanks guys!

All help is much appreciated!

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2012 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Yeah. It is just hard. I know someone that does it every night. He just keeps consciousness through NREM.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2012 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by soulfulcreature

Thanks for the reply!

I'll give it a shot!

Be aware that after exhaustive research I suspect that it is only a tiny percentage of active oneironauts that are able to do this.

(haha the DV dictionary didn't recognise oneironauts as a legitimate spelling whilst making this post)

**Ciej** · 12-17-2012 09:02 PM

I've tried this many times and have found myself in hazy, half-formed dreams. Seriously, taking a half hour nap, waking up for another half hour, and then trying this will increase your odds exponentially. The reason is that you want to enter REM sleep for the most potent dreamscape, and jumping into it usually leads you into bizarre and fleeting dreams.

**faceonmars** · 12-18-2012 12:34 AM

Yes. I have found these NREM (non-REM) lucids to be the most intense. I use progressive muscle relaxation combined with visualization to reach this state. In my opinion it is a form of self-hypnosis that lends itself to lucid dreams.

**SaxtonHale** · 12-18-2012 12:50 AM

Look up yoga nidra, or sleep yoga. It is all about conscious NREM sleep. You don't experience dreams during yoga nidra though; in that state you experience formless thought and clearness of mind. You can use this phase to your advantage to literally stay conscious all night and catch all your dreams as lucids right as they start. It's pretty much the basis of being a yogi, without all the spiritual attachments.

**dutchraptor** · 12-18-2012 12:56 AM

I have done it a few times but in all honesty it is more exhausting then it is worth. It can take me up to an hour to get relaxed enough and let my mind fall asleep while trying to lightly remain conscious. The moment my mind even touches any idea I regain complete awareness and I am back at step one.
It's intresting because I see way more imagery but it ways harder to actually lose focus of my body.

**SaxtonHale** · 12-18-2012 01:12 AM

That's my downfall as well. I have a hard time letting go. I have experienced deep meditation, but I've never fallen asleep while remaining conscious. I fall asleep every night doing 61 point and spinal breath exercises, which have helped the vividness of my dreams and dream recall immensely, but I always start wandering and lose my light focus.

**MarineRecon** · 12-18-2012 02:50 AM

This sounds really cool! Is it kind've like a WILD? I would be interested in learning this.

**TwoCrystalCups** · 12-18-2012 03:03 AM

This is easy to do once you mastered deep meditation. It has been happening to me more recently, i am getting images while my eyes are closed but i am still aware and awake.
There were times that i thought i was dreaming with my eyes opened, but realized when i went to sleep and then woke up and remembered what i was thinking and daydreaming it was only that, and not a dream, but felt like a dream. Ya it's that scarey and odd. lol

**MarineRecon** · 12-18-2012 03:36 AM

That happens to me in the morning. After I take a shower sometimes I lay down cause I'm lazy

and I'l get all of these vivd dreamlike daydreams. I never tried to make anything out of them though, but that may be an idea worth considering!

**Woodstock** · 12-18-2012 02:07 PM

I do this sometimes, but not often because I can't stay lucid long. Click on the link in my signature, that might help. You basically just meditate and stay conscious while trying to sleep.