DILD/WBTB Question

[bb316]

Hey all, So I've just gotten back into lucid dreaming and have successfully had 3 LD's in the past week. Each has been induced by a combo of SAT/ADA with WBTB and mantras. With my WBTB strategy, I wake up in just after a dream and stay up for about 75 minutes and then go back to sleep using a mantra to get a DILD. This works for me, but I'm not super stoked on staying up for over an hour in the middle of the night to make it happen. Do any of you have better techniques for WBTB where you stay awake for less time? (Not using an alarm, I can't wake my roomate) I was also wondering if anyone had techniques to induce a DILD w/o WBTB. For me I'm just not aware enough in my dreams. BTW- I get 6-7 hours of sleep, can't get much more because the idiots on my floor are super loud. Thanks

[NyxCC]

Congrats on the lds! Could you just spend a little less time awake, 20-30 mins perhaps? I have found that the optimal time may depend on how sleepy you are after you wake up. I usually make the effort to shrug off any sleepy feelings, especially the heaviness on my eyelids. If I still feel sleepy I extend the time, and if not wakeful enough just walk around a bit, sometimes splash some water on my face, repeat the mantras or even hold my hand in upright position to make sure I don't fall asleep too quickly when back to bed. Feel free to play around with timing and find what's optimal for you and be flexible to change it according to the day specific needs. Good luck!

[bb316]

Thanks NyxCC, I'm not sure. I'm never too tired when I WBTB. I'll definitely try staying up for just 20-30 minutes tonight! I worry though that I will lose my awareness in a deep sleep pattern before REM. We'll see i guess.

[FryingMan]

Experiment with the WBTB duration, keep careful records in your journal, and over time you'll see trends emerge and you can find the minimal time that works best for you.