First of all - thank you fogelbise for linking me up in here!
And thank you for this whole thread!!
I will try this and report. Latest next after next night.
It really sounds great - and it comes with such a cool collection of supporters, too..
And I had one DEILD from LD to LD - that really seemed easy - but it was from lucidity..

Originally Posted by
voByJunior2013
I've never lucid yet. But i'm practicing dream recall and jounalling. You said 30 minutes in between.. My question is how do you even go back to bed in 30 minutes and i'm guessing that means your sleep periods are small.
I'm having problems seeing how you go back to sleep so quickly. In my cause i do 1:30 , 3:00, 4:30
and everytime i get up and want to go back to bed. it's hard. takes me alot of minutes,..
when i wake up at 1:30 i try and try to go back to bed and at 2:20 i'm still awake.
So i usually give up on the 3:00 alarm cause i havent' even succeeded at sleep.
Anyways, you seem to be a pro. How do you go back to sleep so quickly?
As you have worded it - I was wondering, if you might understand this as a WakeBackToBed (WBTB) method, where you set your alarm - get out of bed and try to wake yourself up a bit - if not too much - and then go back to bed.
But maybe you meant sleep, and you donīt get up, or move and then canīt sleep anyway..?
If so - I can not help - but wish good luck with it! 

Originally Posted by
VagalTone
7 seconds is too much. 2 seconds, high volume, works for me. It should stop itself ( autosnooze ). You should not move too much and apply your technique for DEILD or OBE, or just wait for a lucky DILD. Check this app: timers4me.
I was so free as to take out an "m" above - I managed to copy-paste into googlivion..
Will see to install it and check, how I like your settings.
Thanks for the specific tips!
Oh - and for me - OBE is an Out of Body Experience.
Not the same as AP (Astral Projectio n)
An experience is something subjective - and not something factual.
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