Thread: Easy way to transition from physical world to dream world

The DEILD technique is probably the best way to "slip" into a dream.

Look it up!

Here is a description of how the transition feels like for me when doing the DEILD:

Beeeep Beeeeep! (Autosnooze and the alarm shuts down itself)
"Mhhfmm ok I am awake let's lay still and keep my eyes closed"
Then I basically enter a dreamlike state, it's a strange feeling, you think more vivdly and your awareness feels different.
I can from here either imagine doing something like holding an Iphone until I feel it for real, or I can just let my mind wander and see where it takes me.
Which I usually do because in this state of mind and in this moment it feels natural and the most desirable thing to do, however when I wake up I am like "Dam* why didn't I thought of flying on a dragon or something... )

But instructions of how to do the DEILD in a simple way is:

1. Set an alarm clock to wake you up 5-6 hours after your bedtime (preferable an alarm that wakes you up and autosnooze)
2. When the alarm wakes you up, lay still and keep your eyes closed.
3. If your mind feels different you know you have already succeded, but if you don't feel a different kind of awareness just imagine doing something.
4. <- THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP: If you succeed with having a lucid dream, don't automatically assume that you know how to do it and that this method will work 100%, appreciate the experience. And if you fail don't automatically assume that the method doesn't work, just try it again another night without judging yourself or the experience.

The only downside with this method is that after some time your body gets used to the alarm, atleast that is what happened to me, and now the alarm didn't wake me up . So I kind of view this method as some easy way to attain a lucid dream once in a while.

I hope this helps. Good luck and sweet dreams!

Originally Posted by MasterMind

The DEILD technique is probably the best way to "slip" into a dream.

Look it up!

Here is a description of how the transition feels like for me when doing the DEILD:

Beeeep Beeeeep! (Autosnooze and the alarm shuts down itself)
"Mhhfmm ok I am awake let's lay still and keep my eyes closed"
Then I basically enter a dreamlike state, it's a strange feeling, you think more vivdly and your awareness feels different.
I can from here either imagine doing something like holding an Iphone until I feel it for real, or I can just let my mind wander and see where it takes me.
Which I usually do because in this state of mind and in this moment it feels natural and the most desirable thing to do, however when I wake up I am like "Dam* why didn't I thought of flying on a dragon or something... )

But instructions of how to do the DEILD in a simple way is:

1. Set an alarm clock to wake you up 5-6 hours after your bedtime (preferable an alarm that wakes you up and autosnooze)
2. When the alarm wakes you up, lay still and keep your eyes closed.
3. If your mind feels different you know you have already succeded, but if you don't feel a different kind of awareness just imagine doing something.
4. <- THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP: If you succeed with having a lucid dream, don't automatically assume that you know how to do it and that this method will work 100%, appreciate the experience. And if you fail don't automatically assume that the method doesn't work, just try it again another night without judging yourself or the experience.

The only downside with this method is that after some time your body gets used to the alarm, atleast that is what happened to me, and now the alarm didn't wake me up . So I kind of view this method as some easy way to attain a lucid dream once in a while.

I hope this helps. Good luck and sweet dreams!

I replied to the other poster's post answering his questions if you care to look. And along with what I asked him, do you have a specific clock or app that has the autosnooze ability on it? Id like to know what you use.

Originally Posted by Limbology

I replied to the other poster's post answering his questions if you care to look. And along with what I asked him, do you have a specific clock or app that has the autosnooze ability on it? Id like to know what you use.

I have for I-Phone: Alarm Clock Bud Pro
Check out this: http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...me-ld-god.html
I've been haunting it over it's last pages, and also got the tip for the app there - it's not so easy to find the right clock.
Happy dreamings!

Originally Posted by Limbology

I replied to the other poster's post answering his questions if you care to look. And along with what I asked him, do you have a specific clock or app that has the autosnooze ability on it? Id like to know what you use.

Here ya go!

10 Best Apps for Auto Snooze (iPhone/iPad) | AppCrawlr

I use the "12, 24 Alarm Clock Sleep Music" because I like that app the most and I can choose customised sounds to use as my alarm.

Above I described the basic DEILD, but if you are up for it, I really suggest trying this advanced (brutal) DEILD method.

The Timer Method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqu...E88DE0B45599E3

That crazy setup have made me lucid many times, but it is just like I described above not something that works consistently, but it's fun to do when you got the time.
Also note that I don't support the "science" behind the method explained in the video. My most simple explanation to why it works is REM deprivation. Which is better explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5RklUkGeOI

Therefore do not mind his 8 Steps, just set your alarm to wake you up with the timer ramp.
Simple right? All you have to do is to set the timer and only remember to fall asleep on each awakening, the rest is automatic!
And you don't even need a WBTB, because the point with the WBTB is to wake up and stay up in order to REM-deprivive yourself, but with the timer you do that by waking up multiple times instead.

Basically the timer method is like a WBTBs positive (and negative effects) amplified 5 times!

Positive: REM-deprivation -> Fast re-entry to the dreamstate
Negative: Sleep-deprivation -> Very tired the rest of the day.. Possibly Headaches..

Have fun!

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Here ya go!

10 Best Apps for Auto Snooze (iPhone/iPad) | AppCrawlr

I use the "12, 24 Alarm Clock Sleep Music" because I like that app the most and I can choose customised sounds to use as my alarm.

Above I described the basic DEILD, but if you are up for it, I really suggest trying this advanced (brutal) DEILD method.

The Timer Method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqu...E88DE0B45599E3

That crazy setup have made me lucid many times, but it is just like I described above not something that works consistently, but it's fun to do when you got the time.
Also note that I don't support the "science" behind the method explained in the video. My most simple explanation to why it works is REM deprivation. Which is better explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5RklUkGeOI

Therefore do not mind his 8 Steps, just set your alarm to wake you up with the timer ramp.
Simple right? All you have to do is to set the timer and only remember to fall asleep on each awakening, the rest is automatic!
And you don't even need a WBTB, because the point with the WBTB is to wake up and stay up in order to REM-deprivive yourself, but with the timer you do that by waking up multiple times instead.

Basically the timer method is like a WBTBs positive (and negative effects) amplified 5 times!

Positive: REM-deprivation -> Fast re-entry to the dreamstate
Negative: Sleep-deprivation -> Very tired the rest of the day.. Possibly Headaches..

Have fun!

Thanks bro! This is actually a really good reply and I greatly appreciate it! I'll give it a try tonight and post my results on this thread in the morning.

Also MasterMind, what are the time intervals on which I should set the ramping for the alarms?

Originally Posted by MasterMind

The DEILD technique is probably the best way to "slip" into a dream.

Look it up!

Here is a description of how the transition feels like for me when doing the DEILD:

Beeeep Beeeeep! (Autosnooze and the alarm shuts down itself)
"Mhhfmm ok I am awake let's lay still and keep my eyes closed"
Then I basically enter a dreamlike state, it's a strange feeling, you think more vivdly and your awareness feels different.
I can from here either imagine doing something like holding an Iphone until I feel it for real, or I can just let my mind wander and see where it takes me.
Which I usually do because in this state of mind and in this moment it feels natural and the most desirable thing to do, however when I wake up I am like "Dam* why didn't I thought of flying on a dragon or something... )

But instructions of how to do the DEILD in a simple way is:

1. Set an alarm clock to wake you up 5-6 hours after your bedtime (preferable an alarm that wakes you up and autosnooze)
2. When the alarm wakes you up, lay still and keep your eyes closed.
3. If your mind feels different you know you have already succeded, but if you don't feel a different kind of awareness just imagine doing something.
4. <- THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP: If you succeed with having a lucid dream, don't automatically assume that you know how to do it and that this method will work 100%, appreciate the experience. And if you fail don't automatically assume that the method doesn't work, just try it again another night without judging yourself or the experience.

The only downside with this method is that after some time your body gets used to the alarm, atleast that is what happened to me, and now the alarm didn't wake me up . So I kind of view this method as some easy way to attain a lucid dream once in a while.

I hope this helps. Good luck and sweet dreams!

know any apps on android that have auto turnoff alarms

Originally Posted by ageofthunder

know any apps on android that have auto turnoff alarms

25+ Top Apps for Auto Snooze (android) | AppCrawlr

I just found this after a quick google search. All of them looks good, but I suggest that you check out the free ones first. And choose an app that lets you enable multiple alarms.

Originally Posted by Limbology

Also MasterMind, what are the time intervals on which I should set the ramping for the alarms?

Whatever works actually, the idea really is to just fall asleep and wake up in a short period of time multiple times. I have tried the so called "ramp"
which is 8 min, 4 min, 8 min, 12 min, 16 min, 20 min, 20 min. But I have also tried the extreme version of 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min.
As long as you can fall asleep quickly after each alarm it's ok. Experiment and see what suits you, and try different combinations of your own as well.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by MasterMind

25+ Top Apps for Auto Snooze (android) | AppCrawlr

I just found this after a quick google search. All of them looks good, but I suggest that you check out the free ones first. And choose an app that lets you enable multiple alarms.



Whatever works actually, the idea really is to just fall asleep and wake up in a short period of time multiple times. I have tried the so called "ramp"
which is 8 min, 4 min, 8 min, 12 min, 16 min, 20 min, 20 min. But I have also tried the extreme version of 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min, 2 min.
As long as you can fall asleep quickly after each alarm it's ok. Experiment and see what suits you, and try different combinations of your own as well.

Good luck!

And one more thing, sorry haha. But would you recommend doing this right before bed or with a WBTB? Thanks for the awesome imput too.