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      Lucidity Exercise!

      Hello all oneironauts!

      I just had an idea.

      Week 22 Notes - Lucidity Exercises - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      I explain it in more detail here:

      But to tell the short version...

      What if we could develop lucidity exercises, to make the lucidity practise just as clear cut and simple as working out in the gym?

      But instead of getting stonger muscles, we become stronger oneironauts (More skilled lucid dreamers).

      It would as I discuss in the DJ post, erase alot of ego issues with the lucidity practise, because we are by then not focused on practising to get a result (a lucid dream), we are practising to practise the exercise.

      In the physical workout I divide the days into muscle groups such as: Chest, legs, arms, back and one day for cardio.

      What if we could divide the lucidity practise into ability groups such as: Awareness, Intention, Recall, Visualization etc. ???

      I started this thread to make you guys aware of the idea, but also to get some help in developing some lucidity exercises that we can put in our exercise toolbox. if you want you can also add your own idea about why it's an effective exercise.

      Here is an example:

      Day 1 - Awareness hold: 3 Sets of - Timer 10 min - Lay on back and maintain awareness until the timer wakes you up.

      This exercise will help you get a stronger awareness, by first breaking it down and then building it up stronger like a muscle.

      I like this idea because it makes the practise of becoming a oneironaut much more tangible and therefore easier to make consistent.

      I will work daily on developing new exercises that will aid us in becoming true oneironauts.

      Sweet dreams and thanks for reading!

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      Hmm. Well I would argue that the best way to become a stronger lucid dreamer is to lucid dream, this idea is both original and very possible. You should get on DVA and make a lucid 'boot camp'.

      My favorite way to practice is visualization, particularly writing fake DJ entries to visualize the dream. Mostly because it's just so much fun. I always see the dream in my head, just as if it were a memory of a real lucid dream. At least that's how I would go about it.

      I don't know exactly what you could to for intent, though.

      Memory is another one that you can practice during the day. I like to practice it by keeping a daily journal and writing about my day. It's much less mundane than say, playing a memory game. It also helps you to develop memory skills that help recall dreams. (Stuff like sequences of events, cause and effect situations, recurring themes.)

      Those are just my thoughts.

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      I've been playing with this though recently... The problem with lucid dreaming day workout is that lots of ''usual'' practice is not relevant. I hope we will determine the effective activities such as lift weigh for muscle increase.
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      Interesting thoughts JadeGreen!

      And nice ideas about how to practise some different abilities.

      Yea, Nfri I feel the same way. If I would translate the problem of "technique-mindset" in lucid dreaming to getting physically stronger or just more fit, then I would say that the quick fixes such as "the best lucid dreaming technique!" or "Lucid dreaming aids that boost your lucidity!" is kind of like "The best workout type!" or "2 Week Abs Program!" and "Super Gainer For BIG Muscles!". And I don't really like that, what I do put my time and interest in though is LONG process focused programs. For example now I do the Barbrothers 12 week workout program and I see slow changes bringing me closer and closer to my goal, and since calisthenics is more focused on enjoying the exercises than just admiring yourself in the mirror in the gym, it's more of a practise than a mass gain workout.

      The progress I have made there, was what inspired me to start thinking about a lucidity program in the same way, by focusing on getting better at a particular exercise in itself (that one finds fun and exciting to do) and by doing so strenghtening the basic abilities needed for lucidity. And the result is truly a bonus (easy lucidity and shredded body).

      And by the way I thought of a very basic ability: Relaxation (of the mind and body).

      My goal is to have a weekly lucidity practise program up and running as soon as possible. But first I need to fill the night with some good exercises.

      Ok any other ideas?
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      Sivison's Dream Yoga in our DV academy has some lucid dreaming exercises.

      With each of the exercises, there should be a way to determine your current skill level. That way, you can determine if you're making progress in developing your various abilities.

      Something like this:http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-yoga...esson-1-a.html
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      Nothing is ever new under the sun Thanks dolphin I will check those out!

      I am going to make a video for each exercise that I find intersting, just to make it even more fun.

      Peace.
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      This sounds great. It will give people a structure to work from. I am going to set up my own one for a beginner and get back to you. I will then add stuff that I have missed out if it is essential from your programme.
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      Every time l try for lucidity, lately, my brain, spontaneously, gives me a picture of a boring brown-robed monk, sitting, like this:

      Forum code:*

      If I could go Lucid as him I would be very happy. Maybe I will try.

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      https://youtu.be/sQ5cJLWyuIU

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      I think this is ontopic. I followed JadeGreen here. I like MasterMind's idea. It made me think of the boring monk that appears in my mind each time I think of getting lucid as I fall asleep.
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      I think this is ontopic. I followed JadeGreen here. I like MasterMind's idea. It made me think of the boring monk that appears in my mind each time I think of getting lucid as I fall asleep.[/QUOTE]

      Brilliant. Happy Days. All the training done.

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      Here are two exercises explained on video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIIBoQ0WPg

      The music was more annoying than I planned, but I hope you get the gist of what the exercise is about. I am going to make this one of my main exercises. Ps. It's hard to get eye contact when recording on the webcam, so I look weird.

      Oneironaut Ability: Awareness

      Exercise name: T-Rex Hold + Dragonball variation.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd8ivaN4V6s

      A simple visualization exercise that is in my experience very easy to do.

      Oneironaut Ability: Visualization

      Exercise name: The Bandage

      Enjoy!
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      l Love Ozzo ♥♥♥

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      I enjoyed your first 2 Oneironaut exercise Youtubes.

      Then I went to your chanel and began watching some of your other Youtubes. You are inspirational for me. I like this one the most:



      https://youtu.be/ZEtYiL4B3Rg



      It is 3:44 am Thursday 14-August here now and I just got off the floor after doing your first Oneironaut Exercise: T-Rex Hold

      *Thank you

      I'll do it a few times a day then I'll do both the T-rex hands and the DragonBall with Ozzo, I ♡ Ozzo. (hahaha).

      ... ...
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      Glad that you liked it EbTide000

      Here is a new exercise!

      Now I have a few exercises to start building my own oneironaut transformation program.

      Here is a new one.

      Oneironaut ability: Critical Thinking

      Exercise name: The Reality Check

      Feel free to use any reality check of your own choosing, but one that I have found works the best and is easiest to transfer to one's dreams, is the hand reality check. You simply check your hand to see if it looks normal, since hands are deformed in dreams (most of the time), but it will surely look weird.

      To practise a reality check you can just do it during the day, but what I have found is more convenient is to do it before going to sleep. But here is the added feature to the exercise:

      Since we are practising the reality check and attempting to make it ingrained in our subconscious mind and dreams, the best time is to do it before going to sleep while going to bed, but something even better is to do it right after waking up from a dream. This is because of two reasons.

      1. It might be a false awakening and you are in fact still in the dream.
      2. You create a habit of thinking about looking at your hands while being in a relaxed and dreamy state of mind.

      So what can we do to wake up after a dream?

      In my experience there are two simple ways.

      For beginners, use a timer at different intervals (preferably with an autosnooze feature, so you don't have to move as much) and each time the alarm wakes you up, get up and look at your hands and go back to sleep.

      For intermediate/ advanced practioners try this:

      Go to sleep in a slightly uncomfortable posture (I use a sitting position against the wall) and this usually is enough to make you wake up after a dream. And each time you wake up you reality check and then go back to sleep in the same posture.

      So to summarise:

      1. Choose a reality check to practise.
      2. Wake up after a dream either by using a timer or a special sleeping posture.
      3. Practise reality checks and go back to sleep.

      I'll make a video demonstrating how this is done in more detail soon.

      But until then I wish you good luck with your practise!

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      Here is another exercise that I will use in my monthly oneironaut training program.

      It's actually not an exercise you only do once, but something that should be practised regularly and preferably every day.

      I have talked about it a million times before, but here I will describe it to emphasize it's importance for the oneironaut transformation.

      Oneironaut Ability: Awareness Endurance, Presence, Mindfulness

      Exercise name: Meditation

      If you only work out in the gym, you risk becoming really big but really immobile. It's important to do cardio and it can in fact even increase the progress because it help your whole body and increase your gains.

      As a oneironaut you become really good at becoming aware (having a strong awareness) but if you do not meditate, you risk becoming unfocused.
      Most people get lucid dreams only to lose them instantly. And it's not that they really lose awareness, but rather that they lose focus.

      A bodybuilder that never does cardio will lose his breath when running, a oneironaut who never meditates will lose his awareness when dreaming.

      And meditation helps you in alot of other different ways as well, boost immune system, lowers stress and therefore lowers the risk of having stress related diseases, you become happier, need less sleep to function, have more energy, procrastinate less (or not at all), you stay focused etc.

      But I am not here to promote meditation, you can see that change for yourself.

      I am here to explain it.

      As a beginner, one should focus ONLY on developing the habit. So start with something easy like 1 min a day and then increase the time to 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes. And then do it for 20 minutes a day. (Use a timer).

      Your goal is to do nothing.

      And it is harder than it sounds, because you will feel all kinds of emotions, thoughts, discomforts etc.

      But to describe the step by step process I did to learn to meditate for 20 min a day.

      1. Begin by just accepting what ever that happens, allow anything to happen. So your first goal is to just sit at a chair for your desired time and make this ritual a habit.

      2. Then when you find this to be easy or boring, begin to observe your thoughts and examine your thoughts or better put, observe your thoughts. What are they really about and why are you thinking them? Are they really necessary for your life? Is it you who are thinking them or are they automatically generated by your mood or what is happening?

      3. When you can entertain yourself like this for about 10 min, you can start the practise of focusing your awareness on something, for example your breath. Do this for as long as possible until emotions, thoughts or discomforts (like itches, falling asleep or pain) come up. When those arises just do as you did before and don't judge them or yourself, just observe and examine and then return to the breath, breathe slowly and consciously.

      4. When you feel like emotions, discomfort and thoughts doesn't bother you as often anymore start the meditation by focusing on the breath or on nothing even, for as long as possible.

      (5.) You will soon feel a strange feeling. This act of doing nothing is more fun and exciting than anything else you can think of, because you are relaxed and happy.
      This is not the goal it's just a result of the meditation. Your goal is to practise, the result is a bonus.

      (This is the long process I went through to learn meditation, but it's also the short process I go through every meditation session. Success is both earned and re-earned.)

      Practise meditation at the level that you feel is yours and do this every day (during the day) and then perform the oneironaut training when you go to bed.

      Peace!
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      Here is a new exercise and this one focuses on memory. Short-term memory and it's a really good way to get a better dream recall.

      I came up with this idea randomly when I was a beginner, and as it is with all "new" ideas I soon found out it was an exercise that had existed for hundreds of years, used by dream yogis.

      It got some attention and now this forum has it's own section for this very exercise. (Waking Journal)

      Here is the post I wrote back in 2010: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-sign...reams-try.html

      Oneironaut Ability: Memory

      Exercise name: Waking Journal

      The exercise is very simple. All you have to do is to grab a piece of paper and a pen right before you go to bed and recall the day you just went through. The exact way of how to describe the day with details and so on isn't the focus, the focus is to recall the day in the same way that you want to recall your dreams. So if you want to recall dreams in full detail very morning, recall your full day in details.

      Do that if you are determined to do so every morning, I used to recall lots of dreams in full detail while doing this exercise full time, but the problem was that dream recall became too demanding, because I basically wrote a novel every morning. The cool part about it though was that I realized how much we actually do dream every night. For example I could recall 3 long different dream scenarios and wake up after just 3 hours.

      A variation of the exercise (but I recommend to do it with a pen and paper) is to do it in the head and just mentally go through the day like a movie was playing in the mind.

      There are many possible reasons to why this exercise increase dream recall, it might be because we practise our short-term memory which is crucial for dream recall, it might be because we sort out the memories of the days ourselves or that we are simply more focused on recalling the dreams at all. But it doesn't really matter as long as it helps us.

      Now my dream recall is at the point that I no longer recall my dreams, I remember them already upon awakening.
      Enjoy this new exercise, and stay tuned for more!

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