Thread: DEILD Mask Results. A Missed Trick?

I never had luck with my remee for DEILDs, but perhaps I never found just the right combination before it stopped working entirely. Of about 100 nights of use, mostly I never noticed anything, except for twice the lights went off in the middle of a dream, startling me fully awake instantly.

I have the same notion: masks like remee could be great for DEILD, but still without REM detection, it's a needle in a haystack.

Hey there,

I keep wondering: The body has an amazing ability to adapt to and learn to ignore outside stimuli when sleeping. Has there been studies on the prolonged effect of such electronic shortcuts? I would think there's a good chance that, after some initial success, their positive effect starts to fade as the body simply becomes used to them.

-Redrivertears-

Originally Posted by Redrivertears

Hey there,

I keep wondering: The body has an amazing ability to adapt to and learn to ignore outside stimuli when sleeping. Has there been studies on the prolonged effect of such electronic shortcuts? I would think there's a good chance that, after some initial success, their positive effect starts to fade as the body simply becomes used to them.

-Redrivertears-

Hi, i wonder if Remee really is a needle in a haystack when used as a DEILD alarm :-/ Im thinking after a wbtb of about 7 hours and setting the remee for every 10 mins then over the course of an hour that needle becomes a scaffold pole in a haystack as there a more than 50% chance of the alarm waking you in a dream. hmmm

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Hi, i wonder if Remee really is a needle in a haystack when used as a DEILD alarm :-/ Im thinking after a wbtb of about 7 hours and setting the remee for every 10 mins then over the course of an hour that needle becomes a scaffold pole in a haystack as there a more than 50% chance of the alarm waking you in a dream. hmmm

You really need the sleep/REM detection, otherwise variations in the time it takes to get back to sleep could ruin it as seeing the lights when already awake always reset my drowsiness and I had to start falling asleep all over again.

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Performing a DEILD after a natural awakening - 4 successes
Performing a DELID using an alarm app with headphones - 5 successes
I now have a RemDreamer mask, i slip it on, i set it so the lights will be bright enough to wake me and set it to flash for 2 seconds and it is perfect. I sleep, it wakes me in REM and i simply DEILD!

Could you please make a more detailed record of these? I mean, alarm DEILD: 5 successes - but after how many trials and how many fails?
RemDreamer DEILD: how many successes after how many trial and how many fails?
Its quite interesting for me, as I had great hope for this technique as well - but unfortunately I haven't been able to have good results with it...

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Im confused as to why the makers of these masks do not amplify the fact that their product can double as a fantastic DEILD device instead of doing everything they can to advice against waking up with their device ... odd, very odd!

Maybe perhaps because its not that effective for others?

Some people take a long time to fall asleep again after *any* waking, especially alarm wakings, making the alarm-DEILD approach not workable. If it does work for you, congratulations! Everyone needs to follow their own path to see what works for them.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

You really need the sleep/REM detection, otherwise variations in the time it takes to get back to sleep could ruin it as seeing the lights when already awake always reset my drowsiness and I had to start falling asleep all over again.

Yes, ive found this to be the case with me too, however, once lucid i always tell myself that i will be seeing remee lights soon and to ignore then and that seems to work. The RemDreamer is a much better option, shame its not as comfortable as the remme ...... roll on Aurora! :-)