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      Mindfulness

      Something that may or may not be entirely true.. One thing for sure, it has changed my way of practicing Lucid Dreaming.

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      "The practice of mindfulness involves being aware moment-to-moment, of one’s subjective conscious experience from a first-person perspective"

      For most of my life, i have lived every day and almost every moment anticipating the future, whether it be a new TV show episode coming out tomorrow, or a game that's releasing a few years from now. I kept dwelling, dwelling on the past.. Thinking about what i should have done back then, or how fun it felt back then, and the likes of these thoughts. It was sooner or later apparent that i wasn't living my life properly, that i wasn't enjoying the moment i was in.

      Such behaviour and way of thinking wasn't very likeable, but i didn't know any better.
      I thought that lucid dreams were "rush experiences" because when the dream is over, all that's left is your memory of it. But i had forgotten that even life is the same way.. Every passing moment was my next memory. And what happened when i worried a lot or thought a lot about my future or my past? I stopped thinking about the present, the now... The past is nothing you can change, and the future is nothing you know for sure.. Worry too much about tomorrow's event and you'll barely have any time to prepare for it today.

      You might say, what does this have to do with lucid dreaming?
      Well, to my understanding, this has a lot to do with awareness. How do you become aware of something? by paying attention to it.. What happens when you are always thinking about this and that and not paying attention to what you want to be aware of? You end up only paying attention to your thoughts, only aware of that. It's true that you have a degree of awareness on your environment, but that awareness -for the most part- is very weak. Were you paying attention to your breath or body position while reading this? You can answer that by yourself now.

      What happens when we spend more time paying attention to what is going on right now, and only providing a reasonable amount of attention to our thoughts? We become aware of what's happening in this moment while providing enough mental feedback. Whether or not maintaining mindfulness provides lucidity relies on the person, but the way i see it, it's a very effective way to become aware. Nevertheless, it's an interesting thing to try.. Being mindful is also what i believe to be the main way to stay in your lucid dreams longer and enjoy them more. It's also part of meditation, but i'm tackling it by itself in here.

      Putting it all into practical use, try to be less absorbed with your thoughts, and more focused on your sounds, sights, sensations or feelings.. Aware of the now instead of the past or the coming future. If you slip your awareness away and go into that auto-pilot mode, gently place your attention back on the present moment while recognizing your thoughts, but not being sucked away by them.

      Imagine that this mindfulness became more of a habit or a way of living.. For the people who were able to stay mindful throughout the day, it was almost always the case that in their dreams, they were either very aware, or lucid one or more times in one night. Of course, being frequently mindful is not that easy of a task, but when you succeed at it, the chances are that inducing lucidity is going to be a walk in the park. It's a fact that I've been aiming for lucidity for a long time, and what I brushed off as a stressful method of raising awareness, turned out to be the one I'm most comfortable doing. It's not that you have to remember to pay attention every 5 seconds, it's that you have to make yourself one with your present moment, even if you may sway a bit to that usual mode of low awareness with the present, just softly return to the present reality.

      I won't claim to be a master lucid dreamer because of this since I just started incorporating it into my life, but I know for sure that with this, I will soon get the lucid dreams I've been longing to get.

      This is all my personal opinion and thought and it could be wrong for all i care. Whatever it actually is, i believe this to be the key to having lucid and vivid dreams. Either way, i like this feeling of freedom of thought and enjoyment of the present.


      Just a moment ago, you were reading all of that. Now it's a memory..
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      Quote Originally Posted by TDHXIII View Post

      I thought that lucid dreams were "rush experiences" because when the dream is over, all that's left is your memory of it. But i had forgotten that even life is the same way.. Every passing moment was my next memory.
      I feel like this perfectly describes what I am experiencing right now.

      I've learned a lot from this post. This goes hand in hand with self awareness as well as ADA. I'll definitely try to put this in practice (or just put it in my long list of commitments I've stopped).

      Thanks.
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      Yes this is a perfect description of mindfulness.
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      Something that may or may not be entirely true.. One thing for sure, it has changed my way of practicing Lucid Dreaming.

      I used to practice lucid dream by writing DJs, Reality checks, mantras etc... but non of these worked for me.

      I was really disappointed that I was not able to lucid dream. But until I started meditating and being aware of my present. This significantly helped me achieving lucid dreams. Now I don't write DJs and I don't do any reality checks.

      So yeah...i'm just saying that I agree with you.
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      Quote Originally Posted by yj1214 View Post
      I used to practice lucid dream by writing DJs, Reality checks, mantras etc... but non of these worked for me.

      I was really disappointed that I was not able to lucid dream. But until I started meditating and being aware of my present. This significantly helped me achieving lucid dreams. Now I don't write DJs and I don't do any reality checks.

      So yeah...i'm just saying that I agree with you.
      Thanks for the input. Good to hear that you had success with mindfulness. All the more reason I'll stick with it. Not entirely sure about doing mediation for now, but I'll start with mindfulness and random RC's and I'll see what comes up.

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      Just a quick progress-tracking post..
      I've tried being mindful for the past 2 days and last night I had a really vivid dream alongside a feeling of "being there". I also feel like my awareness had a boost, but I haven't been lucid yet. Still, good to see that changes are already taking place. I should try WBTB soon to see how it would go out.

      The effects so far have been very similar to ADA, but it's only that ADA stresses me to no limit while with this I'm pretty relaxed. I should be hitting the jackpot sooner or later. One last issue I'm thinking of is self-awareness, since when I focus on the present I feel like I'm not reflecting on myself a lot. This will have to wait though because I want to see how being simply mindful affects my dreams.
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      Now i'm starting to feel some results!

      Yesterday morning, i was laying down on my bed extremely sleepy and i went into a thought-wandering state, which is like a very light sleep. During the dream i was having, i was able to recognize that something was weird and i was able to become lucid, even though i woke up immediately after that.

      And last night, i finally had the time to WBTB. I woke up for it and stayed awake for roughly 5 minutes, in which i was attempting to be mindful while paying extra attention to my environment. When i slept, i had a dream about SP, a dream in which i was RC'ing (In a strange way which didn't actually work) and finally, a lucid dream.

      Because it was a few hours ago, and that i went into a false awakening after becoming lucid which made me lose that lucidity, i don't remember too many details. One thing i'm sure about, is that i was lucid. I'm practicing mindfulness and random reality checks since i posted this thread. There are days in which i'm not mindful that much.
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      Just had my third lucid dream. The unusual parts are that I've started gaining lucidity with no clues. If memory serves me right, I noticed that something felt off, and immediately figured out that it was a dream. No RC's happened this time. This must be the effect of high awareness or better self-awareness. I'm gonna stop reporting here after this post, though I may report when it starts giving me frequent ld's. As the last thing I'm going to say, it all depends on how much effort you're willing to put into this. The days that I was mindful for a part of the day, I had vivid dreams and sometimes lucids. I'll be trying to do it for most of the day though, as that could make the effects even stronger. I didn't have the chance to WBTB, but I'm sure that makes it even more likely to make you aware of your dreams.

      And as you may have noticed, i've been going at this for a week.. Persistence is key for all LD methods.
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      Mindfulness is awesome!

      There's a difference between becoming absorbed with your thoughts, following link after link down various thought chains, and mindfully acknowledging your thoughts and becoming aware of them and not getting lost in them.

      Mindfulness encompasses both the mental and physical. It is a release, a letting go, an opening up to the present moment, it is the opposite of an intense "scrunching up your forehead" type of concentration.

      By including attention to your thoughts, emotions, reactions, and the like, that's how you figure in the "self-awareness" aspect of it.

      My favorite description of mindfulness is simply "paying attention, on purpose." There's more to it of course, but that's the general gist.

      IMO, ADA focus too much on the low level sensory input, on trying to observe all (minute details) things at once. It is exhausting, as most people note.

      I think focusing on one thing at a time, mindfully, is the way to go. By learning to live mindfully, both your waking and dreaming life become incredibly enriched.
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      Nice explanation! And great evolution in your understanding since your last thread! And since you started meditating.

      Here is a simple understanding of what it means and a way to look at it that might help you let go even more:

      Imagine what it would be like to experience the world without using a language.

      That's all! Make an intention to start feeling the now more and more, and over time, you'll get an idea of what it's all about.

      Language is what enables us to communicate and express our mind and human intelligence in a more complex way. But it's also what makes us anxious about the past, worry about the future and why we forget the simplicity of life and even dreaming.

      Take a moment to notice these phrases:

      "I am so bad at this", "I give up", "He/ She is much better than me"

      or

      "F*ck I am AWESOME!", "I love life!", "Wow I have improved SO much!"

      It's not the words themselves that have the power, it's the feeling itself.

      So focus on having the right feeling and the right thoughts will come, and focus on having the right thought and the right feelings will come.

      Or just simply focus on the NOW.

      Peace!
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