Thread: Mindfullness question.

The fatigue comes from concentrating. Instead of focusing on being mindful, try for a moment to be not aware. Try to be not aware. So now that that has failed, you can see you don't need to "try" to be aware. You already are aware. Just notice when you're distracted. The moment you notice is the moment you're back. Nice and easy.

Originally Posted by tasinios

I started mindfullness practise throughout my day 2-3 days ago and first days was really cool regarding the flow of the practise.I try to intensify my mindfullness practise more and more every day and today i noticed signs of fatigue....it was like my mind got tired.Anyone with similar experiences?I suppose it gets easier later right?Should i cut myself some slack when i feel fatigued?

I got stressed after being mindful for 2 weeks straight and all the time. Since then i just reduced mindfulness into certain activities and i do increase the mindful activities every 30 days in my practice. Just make mindfulness into certain things instead of everything 24/7

ThreeCat that really worked so i should just take it easier and not concentrate that much just be aware in a relaxed way i suppose.

Originally Posted by TheAssassin56

I got stressed after being mindful for 2 weeks straight and all the time. Since then i just reduced mindfulness into certain activities and i do increase the mindful activities every 30 days in my practice. Just make mindfulness into certain things instead of everything 24/7

That is actually a good idea.I will apply it to my practise...How long have you been practising mindfulness?Did you get any results from it yet?In my case i am just starting out to realise that life something very unstable and fluid.Everything is chaning every single moment.This is amazing.I've also started to have control over my emotions 1-2 seconds after they kick in without reacting to them.

That's it.

Originally Posted by tasinios

That is actually a good idea.I will apply it to my practise...How long have you been practising mindfulness?Did you get any results from it yet?In my case i am just starting out to realise that life something very unstable and fluid.Everything is chaning every single moment.This is amazing.I've also started to have control over my emotions 1-2 seconds after they kick in without reacting to them.

Well my experience with mindfulness has been quite tricky to describe, but in the long run yes i did have LDs because of it and it's my main induction method right now. Right now i'm at day 10 of my current practice, but i did practice mindfulness before for 2 and for 3 weeks. I've slacked off a bit the past few days so i don't really know yet, but this definitely works if you keep it up for a while.

Assassin how do you practise mundfullness yourself?I basically focus on my internal and external sensory system and everything that irritates them.

Originally Posted by tasinios

Assassin how do you practise mundfullness yourself?I basically focus on my internal and external sensory system and everything that irritates them.

I've been trying to quiten my mind while paying attention on the present experience, such as senses and stuff. However this turned out to be really hard to keep up so i'm now trying to pay attention to the present without going auto-pilot mode or distracted. I don't know what exactly is the right way yet but i'll keep experimenting.

Originally Posted by tasinios

ThreeCat that really worked so i should just take it easier and not concentrate that much just be aware in a relaxed way i suppose.

Think of mindfulness as relaxation, a release (of tension, of gripping to thoughts, of habitual reactions), a letting go. Then you'll see that it's the opposite of tiring, it's rejuvenating! It sounds like you're doing it with hard, narrow, "tunnel-visioned", laser-focused concentration, which is exhausting! So: don't do that! ThreeCat put it nicely: just notice, more and more, when you're distracted.

Mindfulness does take effort in the beginning, (but "right" effort!), but it is followed eventually by effortless mindfulness.

I recommend anybody interesting in mindfulness pick up some well-regarded books on the subject, particularly about how it related to lucid dreaming:

* Mindfulness In Plain English (not about LDing)
* The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep (about LDing)
* Dream Yoga: Illuminating Your Life Through Lucid Dreaming and the Tibetan Yogas of Sleep (also about LDing)

The last one is particularly insightful and full of great observations and practices to work on.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Think of mindfulness as relaxation, a release (of tension, of gripping to thoughts, of habitual reactions), a letting go. Then you'll see that it's the opposite of tiring, it's rejuvenating! It sounds like you're doing it with hard, narrow, "tunnel-visioned", laser-focused concentration, which is exhausting! So: don't do that! ThreeCat put it nicely: just notice, more and more, when you're distracted.

Mindfulness does take effort in the beginning, (but "right" effort!), but it is followed eventually by effortless mindfulness.

I recommend anybody interesting in mindfulness pick up some well-regarded books on the subject, particularly about how it related to lucid dreaming:

* Mindfulness In Plain English (not about LDing)
* The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep (about LDing)
* Dream Yoga: Illuminating Your Life Through Lucid Dreaming and the Tibetan Yogas of Sleep (also about LDing)

The last one is particularly insightful and full of great observations and practices to work on.

Could you please tell me about a simple mindfulness method to follow? I'm lost in between some approaches to being mindful that i know of..

1) Don't overlook books. They are your best teacher. I just listed 3 great ones.
2) Here's what I wrote about paying attention: FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night

ThreeCat already wrote about one way: just try to notice, more and more, that you've just been distracted ("zoned out", "on auto-pilot", "zombie mode"). You will soon start to "feel" when you've become distracted, and you will realize what sort of activities cause you to become distracted, then you work on not becoming distracted during those times.

Another simple way: pay attention to your breathing. Whenever you find yourself distracted, just bring your awareness back to your breath.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

1) Don't overlook books. They are your best teacher. I just listed 3 great ones.
2) Here's what I wrote about paying attention: FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night

ThreeCat already wrote about one way: just try to notice, more and more, that you've just been distracted ("zoned out", "on auto-pilot", "zombie mode"). You will soon start to "feel" when you've become distracted, and you will realize what sort of activities cause you to become distracted, then you work on not becoming distracted during those times.

Another simple way: pay attention to your breathing. Whenever you find yourself distracted, just bring your awareness back to your breath.

I'm finding it easy to pay attention to my breathing, well hopefully that's a good thing! Thanks for the tips.

I'm lost in between some approaches to being mindful that i know of..

"Is doing something even relevant?"

Like I was saying, awareness is ever present. Ever present. Ever present. Always there. It can choose to "meditate" on an object (a thought, feeling, breath, etc.) or it can just rest in its own nature. The important point here is that when awareness rests as itself, it's free. Free from this or that. Totally present. Totally aware. When you notice you've started "doing" (you're lost, you're thinking, you're somewhere else), then that is precisely the moment you're back.