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      Omnilucidity - And my journey to high LD frequency

      Hello there,
      I want to share with you my findings/thoughts about the phenomenon of Omnilucidity or being lucid in almost every dream. I would define it as having more than 730 LDs per Year / 2 LDs per night. Over at least 6 months at that frequency. These numbers are arbitrary, but I want to set limits here. But I know quantity is not everything. We must consider the different levels of lucidity and the length of the LDs.
      To be in the category of omnilucid, I would suggest a lucid level at least in the middle. But the length should be almost the whole dream not just short fragments.
      I myself want to dedicate myself to achieve this or to work towards it. I don’t know if it’s possible for everybody, but in my opinion, this is a great way to learn something about oneself and develop a mind which is self-aware, present and lucid, even if you don’t succeed.
      I will use this thread to track my journey and experiences. Maybe some of you will find this helpful or want to join me, so feel free to post your ideas and experiences around this topic.

      But in order to compare I will write my former experiences with the dream world.
      In my childhood and teenage years, I never had a lot of nightmares or could remember dreams good or at all. My first LD was after I read something about this topic in a psychology book.
      The last 5 years I tried on and off, to induce lucid dreams with all the techniques out there. And I had some great LDs. But the last 8 Month I stopped completely. And so, did my dream recall.
      I have 6 years of mediation experience which helped me a lot with my lucid dream induction.
      So, keep that in mind when you compare yourself with others. Everybody has some different background.


      Now the “Techniques” or threads I found about this topic:
      Of course, I have to mention Hukifs Gravity-RC. He reached daily lucidity after some months.
      He had several years of trying other methods and insanely good recall before that:
      https://www.dreamviews.com/induction...real-time.html
      https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...rc-recall.html

      -Azul reached daily lucidity with Hukifs technique. Here is his guide:
      https://www.dreamviews.com/induction...-tutorial.html

      -Here they talk about some guy who reached this by constantly checking the breath and blinking. When you don’t have to do one of them, then you are dreaming:
      https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...0%25-time.html

      -Skippers MILD. He reached lucidity in every dream with a form of MILD:
      https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...pers-mild.html

      -Here an interesting Article from Robert Waggoner on LD4ALL. There he mentions some other people who reached lucidity in almost every dream, and how they do it. And his opinion about this topic.
      https://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39438

      And at last I found an article on a German forum. They call it Dream Yoga. Two of them reached lucidity in every dream with that. It is basically seeing everything as a dream and feel it like they are in a lucid dream. Sounds crazy but it worked for them. I can translate this, when someone wants to read the full guide.

      I’ve come across two studies about the frequency of lucid dreams:
      Here they investigated the differences of the brain between high frequent lucid dreamers and non lucid dreamers, but with good recall:
      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-36190-w

      Here is a German study, which shows a positive correlation about 0.57, which is quite high but not surprising, between frequency of dream recall and frequency of lucid dreams:
      https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._German_sample

      But all in all I have to say, that there is not much out there about the frequency of Lucid dreaming. Especially about how to train oneself to have them every night/every dream.

      But I want to sum up, what in my opinion all these techniques above have in common:
      Continuously connecting every moment of your live to the dream world, with the intention to be lucid. I think some naturals achieved this through checking for monsters as a child, in order to be lucid in nightmares. Until it gets in the unconscious.
      This is a new way to live.

      This will also change your brain like the first study suggests. So in my opinion it is like learning an instrument. There a people who have the right genes or started early in childhood, but everybody can learn to play an instrument at expert level, if he put the right effort and time into it.
      But I know lucid dreaming is also like meditation a very personal thing, and a kind of art form.
      So we have to personalize it and be cautions what works and what not for oneself.

      My regimen will be the following:
      I will focus on three things.
      Like Sageous wrote in his Thread “Lucid Dreaming Fundamentals” :
      “In a sense, LD’ing is a 3-legged stool. The first leg is the state of dreaming itself, and the second and third legs are self-awareness and memory. The absence of any one of these legs means the stool topples and poof! No lucidity. It’s that simple. All the machines, gurus, techniques, and supplements in the world would do nothing.”

      Memory:
      - Good Dream Recall is positive related to frequent lucid dreaming. So a DJ is a no-brainer for me, because my dream recall sucks at the moment.
      - I will review my day every night before I go to sleep. I try to visualize my whole day.
      - Autosuggestion in the beginning to kickstart my dream recall until its natural.
      - If I have a lucid dream, I will try to remember some real-world things.

      Self-Awareness:
      -I will try Hukifs Gravity-RC. Because my Body felt quite different in my previous LDs. And I like the meditative side of it.
      -I try to feel the dream like state of reality. That everything is basically created and interpreted from my brain. Like in a dream
      -Meditation

      Dreaming:
      -Get enough sleep.
      -No Drugs.

      Let’s see how it goes. Please let me know what you think about this and if you know other people who trained themselves to be lucid in almost every dream.

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      I also aspire to LD very frequently! I am only just beginning again but I can see that I have made some progress already and am very excited to keep adventuring further. I started with absolutely zero recall and now I can usually remember 2 dreams a night in decent detail, and I'm semi-lucid in some of them! I plan on making this a practice for the rest of my life!

      I recently decided to take this practice very seriously. I do many of the things you do.

      Memory:
      -Review my day in my head before bed every day
      -DJ every morning
      -Affirmations

      Self-awareness:
      -Meditation(I've been meditating every day for 4 months. Started before lucid dreaming)
      -Reality checks(I really need to do these more frequently. I'm very inconsistent so far)

      Dreaming:
      -No drugs
      -Learning dream stabilization techniques

      I have also heard and started to learn about Dream/sleep Yoga!

      Given your description for your motivation to pursue this and your username, I must ask, are you on a spiritual path with this practice?
      I am using it as a practical means for improving my life and for advancing myself on my spiritual path.
      "Lucid dreaming makes us kinder in everyday life. It shows us how our mind creates illusion, which allows us to see how other people's mind do the same. Once we see that, we realize that everybody is trying their best and that we're all in this together. We become a bit more tolerant and responsive, rather than closed and reactive."-Charlie Morley, Author of 'Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream & Sleep'

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      I found it interesting that you do not talk about Paul Tholey or Stephen Laberge
      Both have claimed to have taught people to lucid dream on a daily basis

      Wish you great success !!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mikey5555 View Post
      I also aspire to LD very frequently! I am only just beginning again but I can see that I have made some progress already and am very excited to keep adventuring further. I started with absolutely zero recall and now I can usually remember 2 dreams a night in decent detail, and I'm semi-lucid in some of them! I plan on making this a practice for the rest of my life!

      I recently decided to take this practice very seriously. I do many of the things you do.

      Memory:
      -Review my day in my head before bed every day
      -DJ every morning
      -Affirmations

      Self-awareness:
      -Meditation(I've been meditating every day for 4 months. Started before lucid dreaming)
      -Reality checks(I really need to do these more frequently. I'm very inconsistent so far)

      Dreaming:
      -No drugs
      -Learning dream stabilization techniques

      I have also heard and started to learn about Dream/sleep Yoga!

      Given your description for your motivation to pursue this and your username, I must ask, are you on a spiritual path with this practice?
      I am using it as a practical means for improving my life and for advancing myself on my spiritual path.
      That sounds great!
      I wish you the best for your journey.

      Yes you are right. I practised some time in the zen tradition, therefore the username. And I want to extend and deepen my spiritual path with it.
      I am also looking into Dream/Sleep/Bardo Yoga at the moment like you. My main rescource is the Night Club from Andrew Holecek, if you dont know the website already i highly recommend it!
      Since my first LD the topic wont let me go. I always return to it at some point in my life. So like you I want to stick to the nocturnal and daytime practises for the rest of my life.
      And so become lucid in every aspect of my life.

      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      I found it interesting that you do not talk about Paul Tholey or Stephen Laberge
      Both have claimed to have taught people to lucid dream on a daily basis

      Wish you great success !!
      Ah, great to hear! I didn't know that. I certainly overlooked a bunch of great teachers.
      Thank you!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Satorii View Post
      I am also looking into Dream/Sleep/Bardo Yoga at the moment like you. My main rescource is the Night Club from Andrew Holecek, if you dont know the website already i highly recommend it!
      I have never heard of that website! It looks really cool! There are so many resources which seem to be very valuable I will have to join some time and learn from there! It's going to be a bit hard to find time to do all this though. I'll check it out within the next few days. Thanks for letting me know! I've bookmarked it

      I have begun to read Andrew's book, but barely. I will get into the book soon too!
      "Lucid dreaming makes us kinder in everyday life. It shows us how our mind creates illusion, which allows us to see how other people's mind do the same. Once we see that, we realize that everybody is trying their best and that we're all in this together. We become a bit more tolerant and responsive, rather than closed and reactive."-Charlie Morley, Author of 'Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream & Sleep'

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mikey5555 View Post
      I have never heard of that website! It looks really cool! There are so many resources which seem to be very valuable I will have to join some time and learn from there! It's going to be a bit hard to find time to do all this though. I'll check it out within the next few days. Thanks for letting me know! I've bookmarked it

      I have begun to read Andrew's book, but barely. I will get into the book soon too!
      How ist it going so far?

      2 weeks in
      LD: 2 spontaneous lucid dreams. I dont remeber how i got lucid. In one of them i practiced the gravity rc and noticed that my body got heavier.
      Dream Recall: Got better, but still quite short dream fragments most of the times.
      Notes:
      -Hukifs Gravity RC is quite demanding, but i gets better from day to day. My general awareness is on peak form and i notice so much more in my life. Its like meditation 24/7 for me. I do it full body.
      -I will update every month from now on. This will take a while for me to work i guess.
      -I have to relax more into this. Not to tight not to loose. Stress definitely isnt helpful here.
      -Habits can take several month until they are incorporated. So I have to be patient.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Satorii View Post
      How ist it going so far?
      Update 2/25/2020:
      [B]LD:[//B] 1 LD when I realized my dream sign of driving not working properly.
      Recal/l:Very much lowered recently because of weed. Will be coming back up within the next few days.
      Notes:
      -I picked up smoking before bed again and have done that for a weekish. This tanked my recall and will be discontinued
      -I have been putting zero effort into LDing, so to renew my efforts I will be re-implementing these techniques:
      1. No drugs! I'll allow B-complex and melatonin supplements though
      2. DJ every morning
      3. Review my day in my head before bed
      4. Affirmations as I fall asleep
      5. 2 soft alarms during the night to give me opportunities to write down tags and fall into a dream consciously
      "Lucid dreaming makes us kinder in everyday life. It shows us how our mind creates illusion, which allows us to see how other people's mind do the same. Once we see that, we realize that everybody is trying their best and that we're all in this together. We become a bit more tolerant and responsive, rather than closed and reactive."-Charlie Morley, Author of 'Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream & Sleep'

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mikey5555 View Post
      Update 2/25/2020:
      [B]LD:[//B] 1 LD when I realized my dream sign of driving not working properly.
      Recal/l:Very much lowered recently because of weed. Will be coming back up within the next few days.
      Notes:
      -I picked up smoking before bed again and have done that for a weekish. This tanked my recall and will be discontinued
      -I have been putting zero effort into LDing, so to renew my efforts I will be re-implementing these techniques:
      1. No drugs! I'll allow B-complex and melatonin supplements though
      2. DJ every morning
      3. Review my day in my head before bed
      4. Affirmations as I fall asleep
      5. 2 soft alarms during the night to give me opportunities to write down tags and fall into a dream consciously
      I hope you are back on track now. Alarms can be quite helpful in my experience. Some of my greates LD's came from my refrigerator turning on while i am asleep
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      Month 1:
      LD: 4 Ld's. One of them was Body/Gravity induced, the rest spontaneous.
      Dream Recall: It goes up and down like everything. But the overall trends is going up.
      Notes:
      On some days i had trouble motivating me to focus on my weight/body. It's like some part of me wants to be non-lucid and rather indulge in the mind and distraction like an adiction. But my gravity induced LD gave me a little motivation, that it is possible when i stick with it. It's hard to focus on my body while talking with other people, but i noticed that its due to the intesity. When i focus on my body while talking, i really feel the other person and notice so much more between the words. I am a very introverted person, so i think i need some courage there and be with the other person.
      Overall the world seems more and more intense and dreamlike for me.

      To stay motivated i will read every book there is about dreams and think about all the great possibilities with frequent lucid dreaming.

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      Hello there, fellow Oneironauts! To aid our exploration, I'll throw my hat into the ring.

      My "Self Sustaining Lucidity" theory:

      Supplements / Preparational techniques: Meditation, Prospective Memory Training, Binaural Beats. (I also plan to make custom affirmations with my custom MILD Mantra)

      Techniques: WBTB, MILD, DILD (Combined only on weekends cause I'm still in school, although WBTB seems to lower my chances. Perhaps it's my perception that it lowers my chances, or maybe WBTB isn't a good tech for me personally. Likely a combination of both.)

      Plan: Get into a dream, become lucid, go to my lucid dream workshop, access my dream console (Supercomputer AI that acts as a physical representation of my subconscious) give the voice command "Activate Self Sustaining Lucidity". This will give me a burst of lucidity at the beginning of every dream. I confirm it and it will work as long as I believe it to work and since expectation is everything in LDs, it will work.

      I believe that it will work though because I've found that the more immersed you are, the more likely you are to believe something. For example, the entire concept of "Suspension of Disbelief" in games. If you have good worldbuilding that immerses someone in the world, they are more likely to believe things that happen within the world. It's a similar effect here. Sure, I could just walk up to my subconscious in a dream like "Give me lucidity" but that's not really immersive to me. Being in a facility of my own design while interfacing with my subconscious as the most powerful AI in the world would definitely help with immersion.

      TL;DR
      I'm essentially using a lucid dream to produce more lucid dreams hence the name "Self Sustaining Lucidity". That's what I called Omnilucidity before I realized others had coined the term. I get into a dream and activate SSL from within my Lucid Dreaming Workshop. I do it the way I do it for immersion, as immersion is good for stabilization and aids in expectation which is key in LDs since you control the dream. On at least a basic level it makes sense because if you don't believe you can do something you've already defeated yourself. There's a quote that sums it up best. I don't know who said it, but it goes like this: "Believe you can, believe you can't; either way, you're right."

      (Probably) FAQ
      Q. Why only a burst of lucidity instead of complete lucidity all the time?

      A. This is because we have multiple dreams per night as we complete our multiple sleep cycles. It would be annoying to become fully lucid in every dream because you'd always be aware of the several times you naturally wake up during the night. This gives me an option to let the dream fly by so I don"t remember the times i wake up; thus preserving the feeling of one cohesive sleep like it usually feels. All I have to do is lock in my lucidity if I want to continue as lucid.

      I suppose if you are lucid you can use time dilation to instantly skip to the end of the dream. While this is "Faster", because you're lucid, you're aware of wakeup. If you lost lucidity, the next thing you remember will be in another dream.

      I'm open to suggestions on alterations of this theory after I've done it. I will definitely make sure to post my findings, although, due to the very nature of my plan, I won't know it's worked until the night after.

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      Wow, thats a creative idea. I'am with you regarding expectation. It defenitly belongs to the foundation of a fruitful LD journey I believe.
      Regarding immersion. Don't you think, that the immersion will make you easier to believe that you are not dreaming? Lucidity for me ist, that you recognice your state of consciousness. And that would mean, that you are not so immersed in the forms and have the knowing part in which state you are, in my opinion. So your AI has to give that awareness. That would be really cool.
      But I'am to no means a very experienced lucid dreamer. So yeah.

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      In terms of immersion, I'm not trying to make my dream realistic. I'm not trying to trick myself into believing that it's real. A physical example of immersion would be Deepening, for example. That enhances your lucidity by activating your senses and increasing your awareness. My immersion method is more mental, engaging myself in a world of my own design, essentially exercising my narrative and worldbuilding skills. What better way to understand how you think by immersing yourself in your world?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lokoloi View Post
      In terms of immersion, I'm not trying to make my dream realistic. I'm not trying to trick myself into believing that it's real. A physical example of immersion would be Deepening, for example. That enhances your lucidity by activating your senses and increasing your awareness. My immersion method is more mental, engaging myself in a world of my own design, essentially exercising my narrative and worldbuilding skills. What better way to understand how you think by immersing yourself in your world?
      Ah then we are on the same page and I didn't understand the word properly. I want to engage aswell with my dreamworld, creating stories or just go with the flow when i am lucid.

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      If that's the case then you should look into creating Lucid Dream Workshops if you haven't already. Stephen La'Berge's EWOLD should help with that around pg 170.

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      Hello everyone,
      I have never really been active on this forum despite knowing about it for about 5 years by now but reading your post I decided it would be a great time to start (or continue) my journey. For the past couple of years I have always been fascinated by lucid dreaming and wanted to be able to achieve lucid dreams frequently. Over the years I tried lots of different techniques but looking back on it I never really sticked to one for longer than a few weeks or months. I honestly don't know why it's seems so difficult for me to stay motivated for lucid dreaming over a longer period of time but I figured that regularly posting an update here in this forum might be a good way to force myself into staying motivated.

      As you already mentioned, I also read about the gravity rc from both Hukif and Azul about a year ago and tried incorporating it into my daily life back then. I did notice an enhanced dream recall and better awareness in general but never got lucid directly from it. Keep in mind though that as I mentioned it was extremely hard for me to keep going with it and I only practiced it for about 3 months. I'm not trying in any way to say that it's not possible to achieve a lot better results during this time period but I just wasn't able to keep it up during my daily life (especially conversations) and honestly only really was able to consistently stay aware of my gravity while going for a walk with my dog due to not having a lot of distractions around me. Despite my "failure" with this method I would consider it as one of the best methods if you really put a lot of effort into it as from a logical stand point I think it has to work once the constant check becomes second nature.

      All of my previous lucid dreams were dilds and never really induced through one specific dream sign but rather a sudden realization that this has to be a dream. Obviously I always did a reality check once I got that feeling but I feel like it's not really necessary at that point because I'm already sure that it's a dream before I even start the reality check. So summing up I never got lucid from a specific reality check but actually just an increased overall awareness. I'm not really sure if that's a good or a bad thing but as always it's probably just a personal thing and this seems to be working for me.

      Not sure if any of my background or experiences are interesting for other people to read but just writing it down here has already helped me understand more about my problems with achieving frequent lucid dreams.

      So here's what I'm going to do from now on (I'll just split it up into the same categories as you):

      Memory:
      I definitely need better dream recall so keeping a DJ (and actually using it) is a must for me
      I've had success with suggestions when going to bed so I'm also going to do that for sure

      Self awareness
      I'm really willing to put all my effort into this topic this time so I will also start doing the gravity rc again and just keep going for at least like 3-6 months even if there are no immediate results
      Meditation, probably in the morning and before going to bed

      Dreaming
      No drugs (should be pretty easy for me personally)
      Learning how to fall asleep quickly as it seems that mantras and suggestions are by far most effective when used right before you fall asleep
      Having a constant sleep schedule and trying wbtb whenever I have time for it

      So that's all for my first post here, please just let me know if I should start my own thread in case you want to keep this one organized and just with your personal experiences. Sorry for any mistakes in my language as English isn't my first language.
      I wish all of you great success and let's just keep staying motivated and on track because we all know how rewarding it will be once we achieve our goals!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lokoloi View Post
      If that's the case then you should look into creating Lucid Dream Workshops if you haven't already. Stephen La'Berge's EWOLD should help with that around pg 170.
      Thanks for the tipp. I've read the part and this gave me some more motivation and inspiration.

      Quote Originally Posted by ph887 View Post
      Hello everyone,
      I have never really been active on this forum despite knowing about it for about 5 years by now but reading your post I decided it would be a great time to start (or continue) my journey. For the past couple of years I have always been fascinated by lucid dreaming and wanted to be able to achieve lucid dreams frequently. Over the years I tried lots of different techniques but looking back on it I never really sticked to one for longer than a few weeks or months. I honestly don't know why it's seems so difficult for me to stay motivated for lucid dreaming over a longer period of time but I figured that regularly posting an update here in this forum might be a good way to force myself into staying motivated.

      As you already mentioned, I also read about the gravity rc from both Hukif and Azul about a year ago and tried incorporating it into my daily life back then. I did notice an enhanced dream recall and better awareness in general but never got lucid directly from it. Keep in mind though that as I mentioned it was extremely hard for me to keep going with it and I only practiced it for about 3 months. I'm not trying in any way to say that it's not possible to achieve a lot better results during this time period but I just wasn't able to keep it up during my daily life (especially conversations) and honestly only really was able to consistently stay aware of my gravity while going for a walk with my dog due to not having a lot of distractions around me. Despite my "failure" with this method I would consider it as one of the best methods if you really put a lot of effort into it as from a logical stand point I think it has to work once the constant check becomes second nature.

      All of my previous lucid dreams were dilds and never really induced through one specific dream sign but rather a sudden realization that this has to be a dream. Obviously I always did a reality check once I got that feeling but I feel like it's not really necessary at that point because I'm already sure that it's a dream before I even start the reality check. So summing up I never got lucid from a specific reality check but actually just an increased overall awareness. I'm not really sure if that's a good or a bad thing but as always it's probably just a personal thing and this seems to be working for me.

      Not sure if any of my background or experiences are interesting for other people to read but just writing it down here has already helped me understand more about my problems with achieving frequent lucid dreams.

      So here's what I'm going to do from now on (I'll just split it up into the same categories as you):

      Memory:
      I definitely need better dream recall so keeping a DJ (and actually using it) is a must for me
      I've had success with suggestions when going to bed so I'm also going to do that for sure

      Self awareness
      I'm really willing to put all my effort into this topic this time so I will also start doing the gravity rc again and just keep going for at least like 3-6 months even if there are no immediate results
      Meditation, probably in the morning and before going to bed

      Dreaming
      No drugs (should be pretty easy for me personally)
      Learning how to fall asleep quickly as it seems that mantras and suggestions are by far most effective when used right before you fall asleep
      Having a constant sleep schedule and trying wbtb whenever I have time for it

      So that's all for my first post here, please just let me know if I should start my own thread in case you want to keep this one organized and just with your personal experiences. Sorry for any mistakes in my language as English isn't my first language.
      I wish all of you great success and let's just keep staying motivated and on track because we all know how rewarding it will be once we achieve our goals!
      Hello!
      Sorry for my late reply. It's great to hear, that writing this post already helped you. The same goes for me and was one of the reasons I started this thread. Please feel free and post your progress in this thread. I don't mind.
      Yeah this gravity-RC can get quite frustrating. I tried it several times the last years but I lost my motivation really quickly. But now after 2 Month in, I have the feeling that it gets easier and i can sustain in more often even in conversations. But far from 24/7 the whole day. Nevertheless I believe in this RC.
      Let's do this! I wish you the best for your journey. I'am looking forward to hearing from you.

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      Month 2:
      LD: 3 Ld's. All of them spontaneous.
      Dream Recall: Up and down, but the overall trend is going up. I have more and more nights with many long and vivid dreams. I am now using a voice recorder.
      Notes:
      In the first half of the month I couldn't really focus on my body extensively, because I was so tired. So I stepped back a little and rest. In the second half I started to focus more again and it felt more natural. My dream recall got better again and I had my 3 lucid dreams. I see a direct correlation between my ability to be present throughout the day and my awareness in my dream life.
      Furthermore my sense perception in waking life got more instense and I notice more things and beauty. Like the feeling in a lucid dream. I notice a change in my formal meditaion practice aswell, its much easier to focus now on my breath. Or to rest in awareness with an objectless meditation practice.
      But it is difficult to focus on my body in conversations or general situation which kick me in autopilot. So in the future I want to increase my intention before that.

      I will continue focusing on my whole body in every given situation, with the intention to notice the state I am in, for another 2 months. When there is no much of a progress, I will try to focus on one particular area of my body.

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