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      Question DILD experiences? Also, lucidty advice would be appreciated

      So, pretty much since the first time I started to properly learn about lucid dreaming, I started to do reality checks every so often; I do reality checks a few times a day, how many just depends from day to day. But I do reality checks pretty much every day.

      A few things that struck me recently however;

      1) is that while I'm doing my reality checks, in waking life, I am often also doing other things, like walking, looking at objects, etc. Sometimes even talking to someone or cooking at the same time. And I'm doing so in a way that isn't related to my reality checking but is related to what I was actually doing before starting my checks, it's just that I start checking while allowing everything else to run on auto.

      I wondered if other people have any experience with this, and whether they found it to be either detrimental or insignificant. I don't think it's being detrimental for me, but I realised that it's often the case when I'm doing a reality check, so I wondered what other people thought or have found regarding this, at least for themselves.

      2) is that when I find it's time to do a reality check, I never actually ask myself "Am I dreaming?"; I just carry out my reality checks and assess the overall consistency of reality. I don't actually believe that I have to say something to realise I'm dreaming, because all the times I've ever become lucid, I didn't have to ask a question like that. Even so, I realised perhaps the fact I don't ask myself vocally (even in my mind) if I'm dreaming could be part of my issue with DILD, but again, I'd like to hear other peoples' thoughts on this.


      The other thing is, from all my previous lucid dreaming experiences, the problem isn't usually the checking, because I do usually realise that I'm dreaming when I do check. It's more often the problem that I have to remember to check at all, which for some reason just doesn't happen in dreams. For me, remembering to reality check in a dream that wasn't a WILD or WBTB is almost impossible for some reason. I know WBTB works well for me if I dedicate myself to it, but I find it too tiring to do and with limited energy and an already unusual sleep pattern, I can't really do WBTB.

      I'd love to do WILD, as it's quite reliable for me in terms of actually becoming lucid, but I take unusually long to fall asleep even under normal circumstances, primarily because of how my condition affects my sleep, I believe. When my sleeping conditions are better, my rate for lucidity and dream recall seem to be much better overall anyway, which I suppose should be expected...

      In summary, the advice I want is one about direction, I think. It seems that no matter what I try, none of the methods for becoming lucid seem suitable for me, for one reason or another.
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      I would definitely stop what I'm doing when doing a reality check. This is because you want to give it your focused attention, and really question yourself about whether or not you're dreaming. If you don't, your RCs may become mindless, which pretty much defeats their purpose. You want to build that critical reflective attitude.

      I never say anything when I RC. I just look at my hands and count my fingers :shrug:

      Another alternative to WBTB is to keep very still when you naturally wake up in the morning after a dream. Do not open your eyes. It takes practice. If you hold perfectly still like that with eyes closed, it's not unusual to slip into a lucid dream.
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      Well every time you become lucid can be different depending on the situation in the dream, and your frame of mind. Sometimes it doesn't take much thought at all to realize it, sometimes it takes more. It is of course good to question your settings and the events taking place. But I'd say if you're thinking about doing a reality check just do it, even if it ends up being a quicky because you never know. I've had a lot of situations in dreams where I thought maybe I should RC but I was into what I was doing in the dream and thought I'll RC in just a second after this, but then totally forget about it... Then wake up going grrr. lol

      Something I like to say to myself is where am I and what am I doing? Because usually in my dreams I'm in an abnormal place involved in an abnormal activity. And even if in the dream it feels like a familiar place it's usually not right, work setting home setting almost always different or blended together with other places. So I try to stay aware if anything is weird or abnormal about where I'm at or what I'm doing.

      I try to to keep the thought, awareness, and question on the mind as much as possible to get myself to think about it in dreams then throw the standard RC's in there too whenever I can, or if something seems weird. I always recommend practicing your favorite RC in dream even after becoming lucid so you get used to doing them in the dream and are familiar with how they work and feel in your dreams.

      Today in a nap I recognized a talking wolf as a dreamsign (the fact a wolf was talking) But woke up in the middle of trying to reality check to find out if I was really dreaming. But I felt pretty aware, I was like OMG that wolf is talking obvious dreamsign reality check lol. But as mentioned woke up trying to RC too bad.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Another alternative to WBTB is to keep very still when you naturally wake up in the morning after a dream. Do not open your eyes. It takes practice. If you hold perfectly still like that with eyes closed, it's not unusual to slip into a lucid dream.
      I have been thinking about this. This is something I used to be able to do a bit of when I lived alone, but since I began living with my partner years ago, a lot of stuff like this has been felt very difficult to do and almost always ends up defaulting to getting intimate/cuddly, mostly because of the immediate physical contact upon waking up, I think. It's something that I haven't been able to adjust to within the context of practising dreaming techniques and it also interferes with my dream journaling at times because typically I end up staying in bed longer than I would have done otherwise...

      --

      Anyway, a small update on the topic from my part. I recently had what was the closest thing to a lucid moment that has happened to me for a while.

      I saw my artificial dream sign and recognised it instantly as my dream sign; it appeared in a way completely unrelated to the rest of the dream itself and caught my attention very quickly and I decided to check reality. However, I was far too distracted by the dream's plot and a dream character was coercing me to travel with them, so when I performed my (weak) reality check, I did not question reality further because I felt rushed somehow, despite not having made any conclusion about the dream's reality.

      I think that moment sort of demonstrates the type of priority I am willing to give to others at times, even when something is really important to myself. This is a very automatic thing for me, which is obviously problematic in the dreaming context.

      Though, as MoonageDaydream has suggested, lately when I have been doing RCs during waking reality, I have been making a much bigger effort to prevent myself from doing other things at the same time or by becoming distracted. And if I do become distracted, I now tend to make a conscious note of it more often, making me return to at least passively observing my surroundings for inconsistencies in reality.
      Singled out from some of my favourite quotes from Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri: "Risks of [Planet] flowering: considerable. But rewards of godhood: who can measure? - Usurper Judaa'Maar: Courage: to question."

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