Thread: How to VILD effectively

I hate you and I slept with your mom last night.
Nah just kidding you're awesome , and thanks for the tutorial. Very helpful

A very useful induction method, I always have a place where I want to go in my dreams (my top goal is a tropical coast and sea at sunset, I really want to dive there <3).

Originally Posted by arby

To turn the visualization into a dream, you have to go through the process of stabalization. Essentially, letting the dream solidify around you and become an actual dream. I've never had too much good information about this step since I do it automatically but one important point if your stance on things. The best one seems to be to look casually for interesting things and avoid the “I have no direction/need for direction”stance.

As for timing, I reccommend that time mainly on the fact that others say it works best for them. You should find and use a fime that you feel is most contributing to your visualization skills.

I'm a bit confused about getting into the dream also. Do we just lay there visualizing our scene till it surrounds us? Or are we supposed to start doing basic things like walking like you said?

I find it easier to start with touch and the sight usually comes with it.

Originally Posted by Rybread34

I find it easier to start with touch and the sight usually comes with it.

So basically just touch and look at stuff till you dream?

if there is Hi then I will not attempt it? Is there hi?

Great tutorial.
Something that worked for me once, was imagining sitting in a roller coaster, imagining the shifts of gravity among with the scenery and sensations. It's kindoff easier to forget you're still in bed

This sounds like a good technique. Il try it tonight.
But I thought that in WILDs you have to almost fully loose concentration, just keeping a little so you stay conscious.
So wouldn't you be concentrating to much to fall asleep or start dreaming?

Originally Posted by Qwer

This sounds like a good technique. Il try it tonight.
But I thought that in WILDs you have to almost fully loose concentration, just keeping a little so you stay conscious.
So wouldn't you be concentrating to much to fall asleep or start dreaming?

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that because you aren't concentrating on your physical body it should be okay. I think the purpose is to start feeling your dream body and forget that you are really lying in bed.

Im already a pro at visualizing so this method sounds great for me. Il try it as soon as I can!

This was a great reread, much clarity to my visualizing Attempt it during WBTB

The thing I'm having trouble with is feeling, smelling, tasting... I can visualize image and sound really easily. I also haven't tried the actual thing yet, just trying stuff out with the senses. I'll try this tonight

I tried this last night, lost consciousness because I was so tired, will try again tonight.

I had an idea for this, what if you, during the waking day, make your own "Dream sign", as in, an item that you do a reality check when you see, or an item that makes you think "I'm dreaming" when you see it.

Then when you visualize your dream using VILD, you literally surround yourself with this dream sign item. That way even if you fall asleep, you see this item in your dream, and have a DILD.

Could that work? Or would your mind change the dream quickly because of the artificial Dream sign you made.


EX: You do an RC and think if you're dreaming everytime you see a coffee cup. In your VILD visualization, you sit at a desk covered in coffee cups. That way even if you fall asleep you see the coffee cups in your dream and have a DILD. That's what I mean.

Originally Posted by blankrofl

I tried this last night, lost consciousness because I was so tired, will try again tonight.

I had an idea for this, what if you, during the waking day, make your own "Dream sign", as in, an item that you do a reality check when you see, or an item that makes you think "I'm dreaming" when you see it.

Then when you visualize your dream using VILD, you literally surround yourself with this dream sign item. That way even if you fall asleep, you see this item in your dream, and have a DILD.

Could that work? Or would your mind change the dream quickly because of the artificial Dream sign you made.


EX: You do an RC and think if you're dreaming everytime you see a coffee cup. In your VILD visualization, you sit at a desk covered in coffee cups. That way even if you fall asleep you see the coffee cups in your dream and have a DILD. That's what I mean.

Yeah, that would most likely work! It would probably take a few days/weeks for the artificial dream sign to set in but once it did...awesome! There is always the chance that you won't be in the dream you visualized but it is worth a try! Good luck

This sounds awesome! I am not really good at visualization, but I am awesome at recreating sounds and tactile sensations, so I think I'll manage this. I am doing DEILD for quite some time without success, so I was thinking I will try to combine it with DEILD, since I can wake up without moving, but I'm having trouble with transition. Do you think it is a good idea?

When i tried your method , it gave me some pretty good results. I got 2 types of dreams , lucid ones and non lucid ones . The lucid ones were very unclear , but i could talk with dream characters , also i was still in control of my body , i could see the dream very hazily but i was still in my body and not in the dream , and shortly i return to seeing nothing , then i find myself again somehow in side of the dream but still in my body . Shortly after that i slip into non lucid dreams , very short ones too , but they are very vivid .

What i mean is that your method works pretty well , but how can i change those unstable "visions" , they are very weird , i can talk with dream characters and sometimes i can see things but at the same time i see the darkness of my EYElids .