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      I was trying to pay attention to my HI during my WILD last night. I came to the realization that HI is even more difficult to remember than full dreams.

      I did notice one thing. My HI at the beginning of the night comes in brief flashes. Sometimes they are even too brief to make sense of or notice in time. When I can grab onto one, I find it makes no sense whatsoever. After a WBTB, my HI is much more coherent. Each scene lasts longer, and I find I can understand them and where they came from.

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      For me personally HI's have been the gateways to Lucids (see profile, heh). They can started as ambigous blobs but can be very clear full on "movie" type images. I use them to transfer straight to a lucid or (WILDS). The easy way to describe it is this. Close your eyes and imagine your walking on the beach. You're seeing it in your mind but with a HI's you don't have to imagine it! Your eyes are closed yet somehow still seeing the image (and it's moving). Then imagine you open your eyes and your really walking on the beach...that would be the entry into the dream and realized you're dreaming. I think this could help some folks with HI's and WILDS.
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      I'm a natural, and still trying to learn the lingo.

      If I understand what you mean by HI, I think that it is a good way to judge your state of consciousness. The HI changes as you drift into deeper states. It starts out as random colors and forms, then begins to form images and scenes. As you drift even deeper, environments and scenarios develop and become more realistic and animated. When you reach the threshold of a WILD experience, your dream body begins to manifests itself within the HI, as you loose awareness of your physical body and pass through the sleep paralysis state. If you can maintain consciousness at this point it is possible to enter into a LD without the false awakening experience or the scary transitional hallucinations. The subconscious mind and impending thoughts, concerns, fantasies etc… actually emerge as the HI and/or LD. In other words whatever you are thinking about, or concerned about, becomes the HI or LD.

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      My HI usually consists of flashes of color, shapes. Then as I get closer to actual sleep I will see scenes and little "movies."
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      I had my first WILD/VILD! Shift, you were completely right, the HI gets more and more encompassing until you can't tell if you are in the movie you are watching or just observing. Then i began to be able to control it/predict it and all of the sudden when I realized something wasn't possible it just was there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tom187 View Post
      I had my first WILD/VILD! Shift, you were completely right, the HI gets more and more encompassing until you can't tell if you are in the movie you are watching or just observing. Then i began to be able to control it/predict it and all of the sudden when I realized something wasn't possible it just was there.
      Mine never turn into videos, I'm always too awake, or focus too much on them, I guess. But I'm glad it worked out with you! Did they start out as images, or what?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Mine never turn into videos, I'm always too awake, or focus too much on them, I guess. But I'm glad it worked out with you! Did they start out as images, or what?
      well actually it was weird. usually i can't focus on them or they escape but i let my imagination go and picked up on a scene that made me feel comfortable with people that i knew. Then my mind jumped to a location "nearby" and showed me something that was not possible in a video type of fashion where i was a bystander. it was a guy running faster than possible. then it encompassed me and i instantly knew that i was dreaming when i noticed it was impossible.

      you have to be on the brink of falling asleep... pretty much fall asleep but keep a part of your conscious open... then it will take you and once i was enveloped in it i became completely conscious feeling. it was only for a little bit since i got excited but you have to actually pretty much fall asleep but not at the same time.

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