Thread: Consistent WILDs through hard-work

That was a great tutorial. Amazing stuff. Thanks a lot.

Great tutorial, most WILD guides are incredibly vague and unclear on the specifics, but this one isn\'t - it\'s descriptive and offers some great explanations. Kudos.

Have you had success with this in a non-WBTB?

I like the way this is wrote out. I would recommend you submit it to the Tutorials section (PM an Admin and ask).

This sounds like it has potential. I can reach the Vibrations easy enough, so I'm thinking this will be easy enough to accomplish.

With me, the Vibrational stage seems to be light vibrations, but with me, I feel like my whole body is spinning around in circles, and at times, falling through my bed.

At one point, I actually successfully WILDed through "falling". I was laying there, trying to wild, and felt myself falling, and "fell" between my bed and the wall, and without even thinking, crawled back into bed, and continued to try to wild. It was at that point, I realized what had actually happened. I already wilded. I tried to get out of bed, but just woke up .

So, to those trying to WILD, pay very careful attention during the Vibrations and Falling sensations and stuff like that, as it can be very easy to miss the cue like I did.

Hey mongreloctopus, nice tut! It's really helpful. Just one question though, how long did you practice concentrating? A month? Week? Did you work on clearing your mind multiple times a day?

nice details.

FINALLY!

You have created what may be the best WILD guide I have ever read. Thank you very, very much. I will try this tonight and give you the credit if I succeed.

Originally Posted by i make it rain

Have you had success with this in a non-WBTB?

yeah, that was the impetus for doing it this way--i wanted to be able to WILD without being forced to go through WBTB. WBTB makes it easier in a sense, because your body is already prepared to sleep almost immediately, and if you can keep your mind awake, it'll shorten the process by a hundred-fold. however, it is completely possible to WILD at literally any time. the key to this is a high enough level of concentration ability so that you can relax your body to the necessary level and subsequently put it to sleep. i will add, also, that in this pursuit, patience could not be more valuable--i have sometimes been lying in the same position for close to an hour before getting to the necessary level of relaxation...and sometimes it'll happen in under ten minutes. it all depends on what i ate and when i ate it, how much exercise i've been getting recently, and so forth.

Originally Posted by bcomp

Hey mongreloctopus, nice tut! It's really helpful. Just one question though, how long did you practice concentrating? A month? Week? Did you work on clearing your mind multiple times a day?

before actually beginning to attempt this particular way to WILD i had gotten very superficially into zazen, from which i adapted the concentration practice. it had occurred to me on many occasions that my ability to concentrate was horrendous, and every time i'd sit for a few minutes just trying to focus only on my breathing i would immediately become distracted. so, to answer your question, i had been doing this kind of practice probably for about a year or so off and on before i really got serious about it (i.e. doing it at least once a day for 10-20 minutes). before successfully WILDing like this i probably had been doing it everyday for about 3 weeks. once you set your mind (hah) to conditioning your mind to focus and concentrate, it goes really quickly. all it takes is a real commitment.

aside from the times i sit down to specifically work on breath awareness, i also try, throughout the day, to avoid partaking in any internal monologue, dialog, day-dreaming, fantastication, etc. this is really difficult, and i'm still terrible at it, but have gotten to the point where i at least notice i'm doing it.

you can easily come up with your own exercises for focusing your mind. just resolve to be in control of your mind, and the rest will sort of present itself to you.