Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
@Golden Son : When you grab it, is it to the point of high vividness that makes you think of how real it looks?
Yes, like I said my visualization is king, I've taken objects the size of 20 story buildings and broken them down piece by piece in full detail in my mind and traced them back all the way to their original thought where they're an intangible object existing in someones mind. It was full vividness, its just that my physical body continued to override and grab with my real hands waking me up, and nose plug rc proved I wasn't dreaming. That's the only problem, if you fail Grab, it takes its toll, but if you fail FILD you are still relaxed and can try again way more easily. Had my first real lucid last night so will stick to FILD's subtle movement backed by trusty traditional relaxation WILD.

And why do you dislike SP so much? Just train yourself to welcome it dude, like I said it's a natural occurrence. Last night I heard the weirdest shit, felt my bed tilt all the way to its side, and felt my body fall hundreds of feet in 3 separate locations one after another and I was completely calm, I welcomed it. After 5 seconds of strange feeling I was lucid, no biggie! SP is your friend!