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      Cool 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

      HEY, I'm sure some of you guys and gals that clicked here are like "ZOMG TeH FAST U|[email protected]#$%$% teh NeeK". Well today, your dreams come true. (Heh get it?)

      Let me start off that I actually discovered the root of this technique like a year ago. Slowly finding out what to do to "initiate" these visuals smoothly and fast to implement a way to get lucid, easily. I'm not going to lie, you won't be able to do this technique if you have a problem with visualizing. But that can be fixed with practice so that you can do this

      The method itself is named, Malac's Fast Grab (or if you hate my name than you can call it "My Fast Grab").

      Ever heard the saying that to transition into a dream, you should "step into it" or interact in the midst of HI? This technique emphasizes that transition part into a practical means of getting lucid, fast. When you close you eyes and daydream, have you ever had an extremely vivid like image. Even imagery that moves? Most likely after sleeping for a while, I'm sure you have. Also, don't you love it when this imagery disappears in like 2 seconds because your mind seems to realize that you're looking at a glimpse of your dreamworld while awakened so it makes the vivid imagery disappear? Well this is why I call it My Fast Grab, for what I'm going to have you do.


      The technique:

      1. Sleep for at least 4-6 hours, so that you're at REM.

      2. Any time while you feel comfortable in bed (can be hours later if you want)...

      3. Use the blackness of your eyelids, using your mind's eye (the same way you visualize) to....

      Imagine darkness in front of you. Then imagine that darkness transitioning into a living world getting brighter and brighter. Don't worry about what it should look like, because your subconscious will take care of that. Example: When I say "dog", an image of a dog already shows up in your mind. When I say living world, than your perspective of a living world will show up. So in other words, the image should be completely random to you.

      Also, don't consciously make it vivid, because making the random imagery getting brighter and brighter will make it vivid for you. (I assume your mind does so because it knows that when it gets brighter in a room or outside, you can see more detail). So really all you have to think of is: A living world getting brighter.

      5. So imagine this random jungle, park, room, wal-mart, whatever, getting brighter until its vivid enough to make you think its vivid. The first thought of you thinking its vivid, will be enough to start.

      6. Immediately after the thought of it being realistic or vivid, use your actual hands to grab and touch the nearest got damn thing closest to you. This image won't last long so you'll have to be fast about. I say actual hands because for when you use your actual hands, it'll for that moment be your dream hands.
      (Yes, I discovered that the highest, strongest, most effective tactile movement is----Using your real body parts at a certain time, such as this!)

      Realizing the image and grabbing it might require little practice for some people. In the end though, its very simple and easy to do.

      7. Once you grabbed it or touched it, remain feeling it until you absolutely know that you're in a dream. Most often, as soon as you grab something, you will already be in a dream, but its best to just do whatever you would normally do in an LD to stabilize and stay in it.

      Quick Summary: Close eyes. Imagine darkness. Imagine it getting brighter and revealing a world until its vivid and then immediately grab a hold of something with your real hands to catch the dream. Stabilize.

      Quick way to tell yourself in bed what to do without confusing and worrying yourself: "I'm gonna make it brighter in my mind so I can see and catch a dream with my real hands and not let it go".

      The Easiest and preferred way to remember:
      "I'm gonna use my My Fast Grab, bitch!"
      (sorry, had to add that word...)

      Now this process should take anywhere from 2-15 seconds, 2 being my fastest and 7-10 being my average. This tech can be applied multiple times and if you manage to fail it or if the visuals aren't getting anywhere, start the process over again.

      Requirements:
      - 4 hours of sleep
      - OK with visualizing
      - Persistence to give it a go again if you're unable to complete it.


      Got any questions, I'll help when I can.
      Hopefully more people will take the initiative to create methods of inducing LDs, instead of seeing repeats of the same techniques and dead-end questions. Who ever heard of an oneironaught not being able to to imagine? C'mon, think and create people. We need more discoverers out there, not relying on the same people(like 6 of us) to feed out techniques. So.......... I give out a challenge.

      I Challenge someone to make a technique faster than this.

      I DARE someone to make an instant induction!

      So, wanna try me?
      Can you handle it?

      Last edited by malac; 09-17-2008 at 02:35 AM.
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      Sounds good, I'll wake up in about 4 hours, drink some Apple Juice, and go straight to it, I've never tried visualizing, so it should be pretty cool.


      Also, I wanted to know I just lay there and visualize? Can I not move at all? Can I swallow? What are the rules " so to say? "

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
      Sounds good, I'll wake up in about 4 hours, drink some Apple Juice, and go straight to it, I've never tried visualizing, so it should be pretty cool.


      Also, I wanted to know I just lay there and visualize? Can I not move at all? Can I swallow? What are the rules " so to say? "
      You shouldn't think of those problems, just do as instructed. It's logical that your not supposed to move btw...
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      Trying this tonight, sounds pretty cool. Thanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      The method itself is named, Malac's Fast Grab (or if you hate my name than you can call it "My Fast Grab").

      I do, in fact, hate your name so ill call it MY fast grab. But good technique i likey!!
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      Okay, I did everything up to 6, however everytime I grab the object it just disappears. I go to grab the object really fast and then nothing.

      Note, this technique is really good. Next time I will get out of bed and do a RC, as I think it might have worked and I just stayed in bed, LOL.

      Also, do you feel its really hard to move you're hand. Because to grab the object its weird, like moving outside you're body. There a strange feeling of you're arm being in two places at once.
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      i tried this technique last night. It found it kinda hard to attempt to grab something thats purely visual. And when I did try and grab it, the landscape would just dissapear instantly.
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      This is interesting. The idea that trying to move your real hand, will, for that brief moment, actually move your dream hand and draw you into the hallucination, had never occured to me. The suggested names, of course, are awful, and will never catch on. The technique seems promising.

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      Ha, yea the first time I did this, like 2ish times of trying or so, my hand did move slow and weird. Make sure that the image is vividly clear to where you think you can catch it. Like seeing color vivid. It's like your forcing yourself in the dream lol. I forgot to mention this but I did a nose rc(with my own hand) and i felt my self forcing into the dream lol.

      Btw for those who still don't get it, when I say getting brighter, don't imagine "light rays", just the imagery getting more brighter and clear.
      Last edited by malac; 09-17-2008 at 09:07 PM.
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      The idea of using your "real hand" to grab an object reminds me of a dream recall technique. When you wake up don't think about what you dreamed but what you "did".

      Well, nice technique I think I might try it sometime. Not tonight though I have other expieraments going on at the moment. Also ... your name isn't bad. LOl

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      Do you wake up after 4-6 hours and immediately lay back down and begin the technique? Like when your still half asleep and could easily fall totally asleep in 10 seconds.. or is it only the strength of your visualizations, at any time after waking, that matter?

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      That is a good question can you do it any time after waking or right after? Does it work better if you don't even open your eyes and go straight into the visualization.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Excessaccess View Post
      Do you wake up after 4-6 hours and immediately lay back down and begin the technique? Like when your still half asleep and could easily fall totally asleep in 10 seconds.. or is it only the strength of your visualizations, at any time after waking, that matter?
      I posted that you can do it anytime during REM, so yes, you don't have to do it immediately. Its best to do so while still sleepy though so you're visualizations are easier to come. Experiment.
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      hmmm.. alright, sounds good. I'll give it the ole' college boy try, tonight. Thanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      I Challenge someone to make a technique faster than this.
      Ever heard of FILD?

      haha but anyway, this sounds like it could work. I'll give it a few weeks and see how it goes...

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      Sounds very interesting. I'm currently trying other stuff right now, but when I get a chance, I may just have to try this =]]
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      Quote Originally Posted by lagunagirl View Post
      Ever heard of FILD?

      haha but anyway, this sounds like it could work. I'll give it a few weeks and see how it goes...
      Yes, before you I'm sure. Was gonna contact Hargarts so we could perfect it some year or two ago. Anyways, Fild isn't much effective to working and is often difficult. Filds transition is fast, not the speed of it working, and it'll never be as fast as this. Also, it's chances of working are also slim and depending how close to the border of sleep you are, it'll only work then . The only reason Fild's statistics of working is higher then a normal Wild, is because its easier to do than to concentrate for an hour. Fild also gives little clarity and short dreams on often(on average). What I'm saying is---- Don't compare Fild to this

      Heh and weeks on this? I'm sure you'll spend years enjoying this. It's easy, rapid, effective, and provided you can do it multiple times once accustomed to it, its very valuable
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      Sounds like a good technique, but there's something I don't get.

      When you grab the object, are you supposed to be visualizing something that, in reality, is close to your bed so you can grab it, or do you only reach out your "real" hand, but don't actually grab anything physically because there's nothing there?

      Did that make any sense?

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      Quote Originally Posted by dcs82009 View Post
      Sounds like a good technique, but there's something I don't get.

      When you grab the object, are you supposed to be visualizing something that, in reality, is close to your bed so you can grab it, or do you only reach out your "real" hand, but don't actually grab anything physically because there's nothing there?

      Did that make any sense?
      ........ Did you read it...the whole thing? Read it again, it'll explain more than what I can tell you right now, then ask again if you're still confused

      Steps 3 to 7, more specifically.
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      I thought you meant *MFG* as Mother F...G GOOD......

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      I tryed this technique but ended up doing it in my dream 3 or 4 times. But dident figure i was dreaming o.O

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      Quote Originally Posted by Chef View Post
      I tryed this technique but ended up doing it in my dream 3 or 4 times. But dident figure i was dreaming o.O
      Yea, make sure you do an RC if you think you failed. You'll be surprised.
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      I will certainly try this soon, at the moment I am trying the declining alarm technique (http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=65376) but I will try this as soon as I get around to it, it seems quite promising!
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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      ........ Did you read it...the whole thing? Read it again, it'll explain more than what I can tell you right now, then ask again if you're still confused

      Steps 3 to 7, more specifically.
      Of course I read it.

      I even read it again to humor you, but found that my question was still not answered, and though I think I know the answer, I just want to clarify it for myself and others.

      Immediately after the thought of it being realistic or vivid, use your actual hands to grab and touch the nearest got damn thing closest to you. This image won't last long so you'll have to be fast about. I say actual hands because for when you use your actual hands, it'll for that moment be your dream hands.
      (Yes, I discovered that the highest, strongest, most effective tactile movement is----Using your real body parts at a certain time, such as this!)
      When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

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      I think this should be titled GILD for Grabbed Image Lucid Dream, simply because the "ILD" thing is quite catchy and I think most people will think of/use this technique more if it soulds all official & stuff
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      would you consider it strange if an alien spent several hours prone each night while their soul roamed in another dimension? We are strange creatures..

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