Thread: Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

Wow, I had three successful attempts at this. Malac I see you're finally delivered on you're claims, lol.

Anyway, I would just like to add something. I think it is better to just try and get out of you're bed then just grab an object with you're hand. I'm most successful when instead of just trying to grab an object I try and grab something and quickly get up and out of my bed. However, you will need to do an RC when out of it.

The only way to fail this technique is not to get out of you're bed and do an RC. Also, you have to visualize.

Malac, I think you should mention something about getting out of bed, as it seems to be easier and quicker. Also, I think people are being successful with you're technique and then just waiting in their bed, which is weird.

Also, Its really easy to mistake moving you're dream hand with you're real hand.

I don't get this.

I get on the bed close my eyes and start visualizing, then I reach out my real hands and nothing happens, I'm still awake and everything.

K, I tried last night and past a certain point couldn't get my image to look more vivid and I kept losing it after I hit that wall because I would concentrate on makin it brighter and lose concentration on the image, I never got to the point where I was looking at my image rather than creating it, but when I kinda thought I did I reached out my arms and nothing happened... my real arms moved.

yes, malac I did read the revised/simplified post, but I thought you still wanted the visualization to form itself out of a simple brightening, but I see what you mean and will try this again tonight, and probably every night for a while

can you elaborate on how to move your "real hands" and not actually move them in real life, causing you to snap out of your visualization? seems like a problem i'd have with this tech.

visualize like crazy...then..grab onto something... only to wake up. balls.

please elaborate.

Originally Posted by hellopotato

can you elaborate on how to move your "real hands" and not actually move them in real life, causing you to snap out of your visualization? seems like a problem i'd have with this tech.

visualize like crazy...then..grab onto something... only to wake up. balls.

please elaborate.

You will move your real hands, only when you do so you'll find that you ended up moving your dream hands. Example: Close your eyes, imagine a scenery, and then use your real hands to grab an object in that image. Do this now.

See how simple it is. Ok then, when you do the actually thing you will do the visualizing method of making an image brighter, colorful, and real to the point that you'll find yourself examining the image because it looks so real, then as soon as you do realize how vivid the image is, you would use your real hands, just like in the practice example, to catch any type of /imagery/vivid daydream/whatever imagery material and hold on to it. Then, when ya do that, you'll find yourself in a dream as if you're holding on to it. (Feels like you're forcing your way in lol) After that just stabilize or whatever you do in the beginning of an LD.

By the way: This induction method places you initially in a high quality Lucid. Great thing too is that it's easier to do the more you do it to the point where you just wake up, take a piss, search internet, walk the dog, lay in bed for 10 secs and then your in ld land lol. Or...just wake up and do it immediately... doesn't matter, as long as you're in REM and how well you can do it.

Beginners should do this close to immediately upon awaking (like 5 min or less), and after doing it like 5 times (which could be in one night), you could just do it an hour later( if you have something important or whatever to do) and during naps (If you're in REM).

Thanks for clarifying. I didn't really understand that part either.

The more I understand it, the more I can see how this would work.

Originally Posted by malac

You will move your real hands, only when you do so you'll find that you ended up moving your dream hands. Example: Close your eyes, imagine a scenery, and then use your real hands to grab an object in that image. Do this now.

Ok this really needs explaining better.

Can you answer these questions in as few words as possible...

1) Do your real (as in physical, actual) hands EVER move in this process?

2) if your real hands do move, isn't this going to effect your ability to fall into the dream?

3) If your real hands never actualy move, but it's just an imagination of your real hands moving, then, why refer to them as your real hands?


I can see the benefit of focusing on tactile hallucinations to enter the dream, as i've always found the tactile aspect of the dream to be the first and last element of the dream to start/end.

I'm not being funny here, i just need this reworded in a way that dosn't cause confusion.

Do my physical hands ever move in this process?

Originally Posted by wendylove

Wow, I had three successful attempts at this. Malac I see you're finally delivered on you're claims, lol.

Anyway, I would just like to add something. I think it is better to just try and get out of you're bed then just grab an object with you're hand. I'm most successful when instead of just trying to grab an object I try and grab something and quickly get up and out of my bed. However, you will need to do an RC when out of it.

The only way to fail this technique is not to get out of you're bed and do an RC. Also, you have to visualize.

Malac, I think you should mention something about getting out of bed, as it seems to be easier and quicker. Also, I think people are being successful with you're technique and then just waiting in their bed, which is weird.

Also, Its really easy to mistake moving you're dream hand with you're real hand.

So that means, you visualized being in your room then? That seems to only work if your in your room, right? Most of the time, people could end up anywhere in the dream world lol, so I wouldn't think they could grab something then get up from bed, unless I misread your way of doing, which I think I did.
Nice to know you and others are having LDs with success. Some who got it wrong, still had LDs, interesting. Win-Win? Anyways, I hope that everyone soon gets to the state of getting this technique down, as its very easy. Once you get it the first time, every time after will be easier.

Heh, see WendyLove already adapted to this and even made a little variation of it, if you will. Nice. Whatever makes it easier for you. There is so much in this field of the visualisation link with real movement to force your self in, that many possibilities can be found and accomplished.

For now, I would like everyone to get the first one down before they try something a little more complicated lol. Or try whichever, your guys choice

@erik Did you read my edited short version? Try making the image more clear, colorful and bright, and real. Adding more details more and more to the image helps too.