Thread: Attain Sleep Paralysis and Lucid Dreaming within about 20 minutes!

Originally Posted by saltysalad

My body did it on it's own. I was getting this feeling that my mind was getting tugged, it was as if i was about to lose conchesness. And this kept happening till i fel asleep.
Also my heart was beating rapidly.

The above statement was partly for you...

Originally Posted by atkins513

When you start to get into deep SP, sometimes you will feel your breathing change slight, or seem like it changes, from here, dont do anything to change your breathing pattern, and as for losing consciousness... to me, the transition into Lucid dreaming feels exactly like that... for just a moment.. and then i find myself in the waking state of LD. But good job on getting so close.. keep trying, your almost there!

ya, when you are trying to make the body uncomfortable, the more uncomfortable you make the process, the better... cross your legs, hang upside down lol, whatever makes the body very uncomfortable.. but when you get into your bed, make sure its 1000 times more comfortable. the larger this change, the faster your body will start SP.

Also when i try to WILD now somthing different happens, it's a strange feeling kind of like i'm out of my body and now i'm looking down at my self at a backwards angle and it feels like my arms have turned the other way round. Then i start to feel like my whole body is very light (except for my head) and the weight of the cover on my chest feels 5x heavier. i'm not sure if it's SP but i could still move i didn't get any HI cos it happend quite early on, but i did this during the day not at night.

Any way i'm gonna keep practicing, Thx for the help

I also know another way to attain SP fast. The problem is, that that main part of it takes lots of time.
First parts is exercise. All you have to do is train hard. I trained for 2-3 hours, push-ups, weight lifting and other stuff. I know, 2-3 hours is a lot, but if you have any other way to tire out your body(just body) faster, then go ahead.
Second part, and last, is to just go to bed, any position that is comfortable for you. And of course, you have to stay awake.

I tried it couple of times, and for me it worked amazing. Less than 5 minutes and I had SP. Once I even had it 3 times.
But I did it long ago, then I somehow stopped and forgot to continue.

hmm.....I think, that it should even work if you train for 20 minutes.

Originally Posted by saltysalad

and now i'm looking down at my self at a backwards angle and it feels like my arms have turned the other way round.

I get that EXACT feeling. It feels like my arms are rotated backwards and twisted. And they feel numb. I also get a weirder point of view, like I'm looking down at myself with a fish eye lens or something...so strange

I sort of tried this last night. I wasn't sure if I did it right though.
I laid down twice. Once for about five minutes with my back arching machine at the highest setting (Which can be uncomfortable after awhile), and my legs crossed.

Then I shut the lights out in my kitchen, and laid down on the linoleum for about 10 minutes. I didn't go right to bed, but the bed did feel a bit more comfy. I'm considering trying it tonight.

I'm just not sure though. Am I suppose to fake sleeping by closing my eyes or keep them open? And am I laying correctly? I lay like I'm trying to Astral Project i.e. On back with hands to my sides.

I do intend to use it for WILD/MILD. Last night I was just seeing if I can induce SP that is sensible and quick. I don't get a lot of REM sleep (I did have an odd dream, but it wasn't lucid), but A sensible SP into a dream gives me some very restorative sleep.

Dang... I never felt that "Urge" to roll over in bed.
Although I must say, I fell asleep rather quickly, so this may be the cure for sleepless nights!

:/ I'm pretty sure this has been taken from Lucidology 101 (Nicholas Newport)...
YouTube - LucidDreamTricks's Channel <--that's the video. with method 1 AND 2 in it. This video came out before this thread, I'm 100% sure...

Yeah, those methods are from Nicholas Newport's lucidology101. While I am not saying the methods do not work for everyone, he is a conman who just made all that stuff up to get people to buy the "lucidology102." Here is the thread mariano was talking about that brings this fraud to light. Stop Drop and Roll. Why Lucidology and Nicholas Newport are creating misinformation.

gonna try this tonight i hope i can have my first WILD thingy SP LD thing

Lol, I saw a tutorial for the first method on Youtube.

I just tried the first method and I almost did a WILD on the floor. It didn't really feel uncomfortable. I'll just stick with DILD's.

Originally Posted by coopercrue

As I said, entering SP while concious can be scary, Now that sensation that someone was on top of you, That is called the lead blanket effect, it feels that somone/something is pushing down on your chest, making it extremely hard to breathe. It is different for every person, on how fast you go into SP for some, it happens very quickly, for some it can't happen. Anyways, it feels like someone is on top of you, because you can't breathe that well, and your bones are pressuring against you.

I think it would be best if you go to sleep normally first and then wake up after 4-5-6 hours and lay on the ground. That way you'll have a higher change of entering REM sleep instead of non-REM.

Aren't these taken directly from a Lucidology 101 video?

I tried the two techniques last night and they didn't work for me.
The urge to roll over with number one just didn't happen even after an hour for some reason, and number two just made me more tired and unable to fall asleep.

i layed on the floor for 10 minutes last night, while doing a few stretches, got into bed, and listened to the hemi-sync 2nd file.

they go through a counting technique. the last thing i recall is 3, heh.

i will try this again w/ a more lengthy WBTB attempt.

Yeha, i too have watched this youtube video, but lucidology is a load of crap, there is far better tutorials on here then what that man has come up with, he is just trying to make money out of all his hard worked failed research.

Originally Posted by Shadowmilo

Yeha, i too have watched this youtube video, but lucidology is a load of crap, there is far better tutorials on here then what that man has come up with, he is just trying to make money out of all his hard worked failed research.

Actually his paid course for V-WILD's enabled me to have a WILD sat in my archair in the middle of the afternoon practicing generating memory impressions using the combined techniques of the shifted blackboard, computer menu visualisation and stimulus spikes. It is really beginning to annoy me the increasing number of people here who have opinions on something they haven't investigated.

Originally Posted by Puffin

The urge to roll over with number one just didn't happen even after an hour for some reason.

The whole point of the laying on a hard floor for ten minutes is designed to help you to get to sleep faster not to induce the roll over signal. I sometimes find it really hard to get back to sleep with WBTB. Took over an hour this morning when it usually takes 45 minutes which is just perfect. I have only done the floor laying trick once and I really found it made me so grateful to be in bed and helped me to go to sleep a lot more quickly than usual but I don't like doing it as it is really uncomfortable !!

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Actually his paid course for V-WILD's enabled me to have a WILD sat in my archair in the middle of the afternoon practicing generating memory impressions using the combined techniques of the shifted blackboard, computer menu visualisation and stimulus spikes. It is really beginning to annoy me the increasing number of people here who have opinions on something they haven't investigated.

Lol, i too paid for lucidology 102, and i found it didnt help me at all, but there are 3 tutorials on this website made by members that did allow me too. I have investigated and tried it thank you, and its a load of shit, so many conflicting things that dont work

For those who don't find the floor as uncomfortable, surely you could put something under your back (I dunno... a book? A shoe? *thinks of random objects* to make it more uncomfortable?). The point of this is not getting into SP on the floor, but to make your body grateful to be in a nice comfortable bed, so you really relax, and get into SP from there.

But then again I don't know if it works for me, but I plan on trying it during a WBTB tonight

And it does look copied from Lucidology101, which I have mixed views on whether is legit or not. I'm very gullible so I'm just kind of observing the discussions. The floor thing does make sense (to me at least) but I'm not sure about the other stuff.

Originally Posted by Shadowmilo

Lol, i too paid for lucidology 102, and i found it didnt help me at all, but there are 3 tutorials on this website made by members that did allow me too. I have investigated and tried it thank you, and its a load of shit, so many conflicting things that dont work

It sounded like you hadn't studied it. The techniques don't conflict at all. You clearly misunderstood something and performed the techniques incorrectly. They are not shit, I have found them to be highly effective. Stabilising memory impressions is the hardest part, once you have locked onto one and stabilised you've got a lucid in the bag just like he says, and can be done in a short space of time

Originally Posted by Raspberry

And it does look copied from Lucidology101, which I have mixed views on whether is legit or not.

I got a nice easy lucid the first time I used his timer method (video no. 7) so he is not a charlatan

wow really.. this is why i created ( A ) topic to discuss lucidology. So now we are discussing it in 3 forum threads? lmao... and apparently defending it in 3 forum threads.. wow.. I love to see how so many (NOT ALL OF YOU) with very little experience makes derogatory statements against methods they have no experience with about a topic they have just now barely experienced. I do understand how so many people could already be pro's within a few weeks or maybe a month.. I ask your forgiveness in my ignorance, I am nothing to you and your levels of advancements above me and everyone else here... may you bless me with your kindness and wisdom in the future... i bow to you gods of lucidity.

Originally Posted by atkins513

wow really.. this is why i created ( A ) topic to discuss lucidology. So now we are discussing it in 3 forum threads? lmao... and apparently defending it in 3 forum threads.. wow.. I love to see how so many (NOT ALL OF YOU) with very little experience makes derogatory statements against methods they have no experience with about a topic they have just now barely experienced. I do understand how so many people could already be pro's within a few weeks or maybe a month.. I ask your forgiveness in my ignorance, I am nothing to you and your levels of advancements above me and everyone else here... may you bless me with your kindness and wisdom in the future... i bow to you gods of lucidity.

Lololololol, ive had experience with them, and im jsut angry it didnt work for me, thats why ive only had about 25 lucids, its methods didnt work for me, like it didnt for alot of other people i know of

lol ya i know.. not all methods work for everyone.. i was in a pissy mood i guess and frustrated at the saem time.. but here is an idea.. I have started a topic about all the methods of lucidology and even posted all the video series so you can see for yourself.. please check it out below and feel free to continue discussion there too

http://www.dreamviews.com/f45/lucido...e-here-109585/