Thread: Attain Sleep Paralysis and Lucid Dreaming within about 20 minutes!

So with the first method you don't have to enter SP consciously?

The second method interests me more. I always have this desperate urge to roll over in a comfortable position and go to sleep. Ignoring this urge will be interesting. I want to try it out and see what happens. Thanks for the post.

Well, isn't the second method just WILDing?
Thanks anyway, since I know about the "Change-Position-urge I can feel when SP is coming

Originally Posted by ruba

So with the first method you don't have to enter SP consciously?

By definition, you have to be conscious for the transition between being awake and being asleep for it to be classified as a WILD. So assuming you're going for WILD, then yes, but you might get a spontaneous DILD just by having lucid dreaming be the last thing on your mind before you fall asleep.

This sounds like a very interesting method! I will try it tonight and if it works, it'll be the first WILD I have.

I haven't quite read the whole thread (err.. five posts?) so this may have already been mentioned. I'm just wondering...

For method one do you have to enter sleep Paralysis? Like go through the whole abnormal breathing and crap. If you do do you do with the knowledge of doing it? Or are you already asleep by then?

I only ask this because... To put it in the simplest form.
Sleep paralysis would scare the living hell out of me if I were to enter it

ok im confused i tried the first method i layed there for about 45 minutes i was on my back and yet there was a bit of an urge to roll over but it never got to the point of being unbearable im realy pissed off right now please help i want to WILD Realy bad

Originally Posted by Smuds

I haven't quite read the whole thread (err.. five posts?) so this may have already been mentioned. I'm just wondering...

For method one do you have to enter sleep Paralysis? Like go through the whole abnormal breathing and crap. If you do do you do with the knowledge of doing it? Or are you already asleep by then?

I only ask this because... To put it in the simplest form.
Sleep paralysis would scare the living hell out of me if I were to enter it

Depends on the person. Some people get hardly any hallucinations during SP, while others get a lot. Remember that SP is completely natural and can't hurt you, so there's nothing to be afraid of. Like many things related to dreaming, what happens depends on your expectations. If you think SP is going to be scary, it's more likely that your mind will make it so than if you thought that it's going to be an awesome experience.

Originally Posted by johoiada

ok im confused i tried the first method i layed there for about 45 minutes i was on my back and yet there was a bit of an urge to roll over but it never got to the point of being unbearable im realy pissed off right now please help i want to WILD Realy bad

I'm hardly an expert of WILD, but practice and patience. Keep trying and seeing what works for you and what doesn't until you get it.

During sleep paralysis when it feels as if someone is laying on top of you and it's hard to breath, is it actually hard to breath, or do you just feel as if it is, but you're really breathing fine.

I believe you're actually breathing fine. Some people feel like they're being suffocated during SP but they aren't actually, so I'm guessing the same would apply to having difficulty breathing.

Originally Posted by Hidden

I believe you're actually breathing fine. Some people feel like they're being suffocated during SP but they aren't actually, so I'm guessing the same would apply to having difficulty breathing.

difficulty breathing period?

I believe in SP it is just a hallucination, as is everything. Cause it happens almost every time in SP, and we enter SP every night. THat said, we would definitely wake up if we were suffocating. I don't think the same hallucinations occur when asleep.

For other things, such as asthma or whatever, it actually is difficult to breath.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

difficulty breathing period?

I believe in SP it is just a hallucination, as is everything. Cause it happens almost every time in SP, and we enter SP every night. THat said, we would definitely wake up if we were suffocating. I don't think the same hallucinations occur when asleep.

For other things, such as asthma or whatever, it actually is difficult to breath.

The question was about difficulty breathing during SP, so that's what I answered for.

Attempting this the moment i turn off my laptop, I will post results in about 10 hours.

No luck. The floor was not uncomfortable enough to make lying on the ground unpleasant.

Originally Posted by snoozer

No luck. The floor was not uncomfortable enough to make lying on the ground unpleasant.

Same here, lol. I was having a nice nap on the floor

That first method seems genious. I'm one of those guy who can begin sleep paralysis but can never finish the process. I've gotten as far as hearing all the trippy sound hallucinations and hearing my heartbeat increase to ridiculous speeds, but never induced lucidity from that state. That method seems like it would just speed up the process. Ill post my results as soon as I get them.

Yer first method is only good if you find laying on the floor really uncomfortable, otherwise your just wasting your time :/ but if u do find it uncomfortable then go ahead i believe this would work!

I have saw both of these methods from lucidology 101, which is a great course by the way... there are really a lot of great techniques... This morning I tried this method #1 for the first time to see if it worked.. I laid on the kitchen linoleum floor for 5 minutes, pretty uncomfortable.. then i went and laid down in the bed.. after about 5 minutes or so my legs started getting heavy.. my body became heavy, my chest became tight, as I started to slip into SP.. I really couldn't quite get myself to phase out into an LD though it seemed, but I felt SP strongly.. dancing colors in my eyes, lead blanket effect, all of it.. next thing I know I am dreaming... i woke up to the timer, and realized I had been dreaming.. I was able to then go back into the same dream consciously and knew I was dreaming.. I had very limited control though.. however I was able to spawn a few things... and knew fully I was dreaming.. from my memory it wasn't very vibrant, but that's just my memory of the dream.. it may have been.. But I was surprised at how fast my body went into SP using the method.. that part was pretty interesting.. If you haven't tried this method, i suggest giving it a shot...

I tried method 2 but i didn't get the urge to roll over. I was lying down for about 40 minutes then i started to feel wierd and my body swallowed by it's self and then took a fast long inhalation, but after a while i fell asleep.

Why would you change your breathing as your body started to show signs of transition? The long fast inhalation you took likely nixed your chances of follow through.. changing your breathing pattern is the single largest mistake you can make.

Originally Posted by atkins513

Why would you change your breathing as your body started to show signs of transition? The long fast inhalation you took likely nixed your chances of follow through.. changing your breathing pattern is the single largest mistake you can make.

My body did it on it's own. I was getting this feeling that my mind was getting tugged, it was as if i was about to lose conchesness. And this kept happening till i fel asleep.
Also my heart was beating rapidly.

Originally Posted by atkins513

This morning I tried this method #1 for the first time to see if it worked.. I laid on the kitchen linoleum floor for 5 minutes, pretty uncomfortable..

It worked for you and you only laid on the floor for 5 mins? Oh well congrats im begining to think im one of those people who don't go through SP??? Oh i don't know

I haven't experimented with this technique myself yet, but if people are finding that lying on the floor isn't uncomfortable enough then surely there can't be any harm in adopting a bodily position that's a little more uncomfortable? Maybe crossing your legs or something?

As a side note, the other day I made a WILD attempt with my head pushed against the headboard of the bed. I didn't realise I was in that position until it started to get uncomfortable. Maybe that?

Gonna try having my first LD with the way #1.

Does SP or LD get less chances of happening if I listen to music while I'm lying on the floor/bed?