Thread: How far would you go to LD?

This is just an opinion question, out of curiosity. I'm wondering how far people would go to be able to lucid dream regularly. Some people have talked about using various drugs to induce it, and I wouldn't go anywhere near that far. I think I'd take a small reduction in quality of waking life to do it, but not that much. For example, I get up a few minutes early to keep a DJ, I'm going to try to eat foods that are more likely to induce it, and I take a few seconds to reality check whenever I remember. I would not take drugs, take time when I have important things to do or blow off work I have to do. What would you do to have regular LDs?

I go extremely far to LD - but I don't use any drugs, or vitamin supplements to do it. Natural fruits are a good way to get things like melatonin (such as cherries).

If you ask me, the lucid aids forum is just a place for people to eat and take anything they want, and use lucid dreaming as an excuse. Examples:
- marijuana to induce LDs?
- chocolate to induce LDs?
- icecream to induce LDs?

Whats next, regular sex to induce LDs? Try telling that to your partner.
Although, if you are comfortable paying for supplements and it works for you, who am I to judge?

How far would I go? Hmm... Not that far I guess, seeing as I don't consider taking melatonin or B6 from time to time going very far. I think the farthest I've ever gone was staying up for a night to see how I'd be affected.

I definitely wouldn't take drugs. I wouldn't take one drug my whole entire life actually, they disgust me. I would go pretty far to LD though.

I don't take any drugs, vitamin supplements, set alarms, stay up late, wake up early.

All I do are RCs, and keep a dream journal. If I get lucid, great. If I don't, I don't particularly care.

I think awareness is the most important thing to achieving lucidity, and that is something I practice throughout the day.

Oh yeah, I am waiting for the Nova Dreamer 2 to come out sometime in May. I like shortcuts.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

I don't take any drugs, vitamin supplements, set alarms, stay up late, wake up early

Originally Posted by Flashdance

I like shortcuts.

uuhhh....

Loaf, I do agree for the most part, though we've pretty much determined that marijuanna kills recall (not that most people on here need an excuse to use it). There is some legitimate stuff in there, but there's also a lot of crap.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

I don't take any drugs, vitamin supplements, set alarms, stay up late, wake up early.

All I do are RCs, and keep a dream journal. If I get lucid, great. If I don't, I don't particularly care.

I think awareness is the most important thing to achieving lucidity, and that is something I practice throughout the day.

Oh yeah, I am waiting for the Nova Dreamer 2 to come out sometime in May. I like shortcuts.

Sometime in MAY?!?!?!?! My birthday! Now I can ask for the Nova Dreamer 2!

Kill my youngest brother...



Just kidding. I would take some vitamin drugs and stuff regularly and do RC's deprive my self of sleep etc. nothing like illegal drugs tho...

I do occasional RCs and try to be more aware of my surroundings, but those are things I actually enjoy so I wouldn't really count them. Otherwise I won't do much... that's why ai luvz my WILDs

I would eat my liver, gallbladder, and sex organ... in that order.

...Just kidding btw ha ha.

Why go that far, when you don't need to go that far...
Lucid dreaming is easy just learn to recall and become more aware of your dreams and every technique at this site is easy.

Originally Posted by MasterMind

. . .and every technique at this site is easy.

For some. Not all.

Err, I'd probably spend time doing different techniques, maybe get less sleep for a while to do something like CAT. Wouldn't go as far as actually paying for stuff though .

Originally Posted by Dogod

What would you do to have regular LDs?

I went very far, so far that I was completely exhausted and tired over several months and could think about nothing else. Anyway, it paid off. The sad part is that after I stopped training, the average number of LDs quickly decreased. I'm still having spontaneous LDs occasionally without doing anything for it, probably because my awareness and dream recall is still a lot better than before and I know my dream signs. If I want to have lucid dreams now, I apply a WILD technique when I seize an opportunity. Otherwise I'm currently learning projection techniques that don't require me to sleep. It's even more work, but I'm sure it'll pay off, too.

Originally Posted by Planewalker

I went very far, so far that I was completely exhausted and tired over several months and could think about nothing else. Anyway, it paid off. The sad part is that after I stopped training, the average number of LDs quickly decreased. I'm still having spontaneous LDs occasionally without doing anything for it, probably because my awareness and dream recall is still a lot better than before and I know my dream signs. If I want to have lucid dreams now, I apply a WILD technique when I seize an opportunity.

Thats me, except I seem to get 2 or 3 LDs a week without putting too much effort into it.

I'd shave my head, wear an orange toga, and live in a temple high upon a mountain in a far away land.

I always go far to achieve my goals, any kind of goals.

Originally Posted by Dogod

This is just an opinion question, out of curiosity. I'm wondering how far people would go to be able to lucid dream regularly. Some people have talked about using various drugs to induce it, and I wouldn't go anywhere near that far. I think I'd take a small reduction in quality of waking life to do it, but not that much. For example, I get up a few minutes early to keep a DJ, I'm going to try to eat foods that are more likely to induce it, and I take a few seconds to reality check whenever I remember. I would not take drugs, take time when I have important things to do or blow off work I have to do. What would you do to have regular LDs?

would go very far for that ability but in my opinion its more in a connection with how your actual thinking will affect your subconscious... i take psychedelics several times a year for somewhat related reasons but would never actual order a drug off of the internet to induce a lucid dream. would go very far to be able to lucid dream naturally if i believed there were any other answer than developing a personal connection with your subconscious

After my WILD chicken-out, I am afraid to try anything.

Originally Posted by MythicDreams

After my WILD chicken-out, I am afraid to try anything.

I've yet to actually successfully WILD (I've gotten to the hallucination point, just never successfully transitioned into a dream)... but I might be able to help, Mythic.

Hallucinations are nothing to be afraid of Just remind yourself that they happen every time we fall asleep. They actually do. The only difference is, when WILDing, we're conscious, so we experience them.

I've always found my hallucinations fascinating. Which is unfortunate, as you're not supposed to focus on the hallucinations... you're supposed to just observe them... as if you're passively watching a TV show, but not really focusing on it.

I tend to experience a hallucination and I get all "That was cool!"

If the hallucinations truly bug you, perhaps you should concentrate on learning one of the DILD techniques?

Specifically, the MILD is a very effective way to induce lucid dreams. Like all methods, it takes a while to start working. It also takes a while to build up its frequency. But it's a very rewarding technique. The best part is, you do not have to experience HI

If you're hell-bent on using a WILD technique, perhaps trying something like the DEILD... the DEILD transition happens so fast, you won't even notice the hallucinations.

Originally Posted by eternalstar01

I've yet to actually successfully WILD (I've gotten to the hallucination point, just never successfully transitioned into a dream)... but I might be able to help, Mythic.

Hallucinations are nothing to be afraid of Just remind yourself that they happen every time we fall asleep. They actually do. The only difference is, when WILDing, we're conscious, so we experience them.

I've always found my hallucinations fascinating. Which is unfortunate, as you're not supposed to focus on the hallucinations... you're supposed to just observe them... as if you're passively watching a TV show, but not really focusing on it.

I tend to experience a hallucination and I get all "That was cool!"

If the hallucinations truly bug you, perhaps you should concentrate on learning one of the DILD techniques?

Specifically, the MILD is a very effective way to induce lucid dreams. Like all methods, it takes a while to start working. It also takes a while to build up its frequency. But it's a very rewarding technique. The best part is, you do not have to experience HI

If you're hell-bent on using a WILD technique, perhaps trying something like the DEILD... the DEILD transition happens so fast, you won't even notice the hallucinations.

Thank you. I may try MILD.
It seems like I am on the border of something great, though.
If I could get past my fears of WILD, I am sure I could have awesome dreams.
I am kinda afraid of false awakenings - I have had quite a few nightmares which involve me "waking up" and then finding that something is freakily wrong.
I didn't experience HI when I tried WILD, I think because I was focused on my vision. But aural hallucinations are scary. The music in my daydream was interesting while it lasted, but the clock making guitar strums each second freaked me out.

And, when I opened my eyes and moved, I felt dizzy, like I was fainting or sinking into the floor. This scared me, because I though "What if I actually faint".

Sorry to be such a whiner. I am just a n00b when it comes to dreams and nightmares.

I'll go all the way :p

But i am pretty sceptical towards supplements, i believe lots of it is just placebo effect, though i haven't really looked into it so...
I do think that i might buy a novadreamer someday...
But first there's still to much to be learned without the aid of devices or supplements!

Originally Posted by MythicDreams

Thank you. I may try MILD.
It seems like I am on the border of something great, though.
If I could get past my fears of WILD, I am sure I could have awesome dreams.
I am kinda afraid of false awakenings - I have had quite a few nightmares which involve me "waking up" and then finding that something is freakily wrong.
I didn't experience HI when I tried WILD, I think because I was focused on my vision. But aural hallucinations are scary. The music in my daydream was interesting while it lasted, but the clock making guitar strums each second freaked me out.

And, when I opened my eyes and moved, I felt dizzy, like I was fainting or sinking into the floor. This scared me, because I though "What if I actually faint".

Sorry to be such a whiner. I am just a n00b when it comes to dreams and nightmares.

Some people just really don't like the hallucinations, there's nothing wrong with that!

The sinking feeling is actually a really good sign. I got the sinking feeling once; the first time I tried to WILD. It was super close, but I got woke up by the BF.

The vibrations are also a really, really good sign that you're transitioning into a dream. You should definitely do a reality check when the vibrations stop.

Everytime you fail a WILD, do a reality check. You may be surprised to find out you haven't failed it at all

Also, with false awakenings, some people do reality checks as soon as they wake up. Helps reduce the chance of FA's getting missed.
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As for me... I won't do supplements I don't mind EILD-based things like induction mp3's, subliminal messaging and the like, but I have a strong preference for teaching myself how to LD with my own skills and know-how. Because then, I can take it with me, whereever. I never have to worry about it getting lost or damaged (save for car accidents or what have you).

I'll try any of the natural methods, and I'll sacrifice sleep, but only on the days where I don't have to work...

Originally Posted by MythicDreams

And, when I opened my eyes and moved, I felt dizzy, like I was fainting or sinking into the floor. This scared me, because I thought "What if I actually faint".

If you actually do faint, then it's called falling asleep. You managed to fail at a WILD because you didn't want to fall asleep. I envy you. If that was why I was failing my WILD attempts, I'd be a regular in no time! You can't WILD if you're afraid to fall asleep. In fact, if you're afraid to fall asleep, then you will be very tired IWL.

I got as far as training vigorously and that seemed to suffice. No need to sacrifice any further.