Truly in real-time?

[Elucive]

I don't exactly know how to start this thread, except to just ask you guys, are your lucid dreams 100% real time? I've had tons of lucids but I still can't help but feel as if I didn't truly experience them, they were just new memories in my head when I woke up. It's really hard to explain what I'm trying to ask so I hope you guys get it. What I mean by real time is... you know.. what I'm feeling right now. I'm sitting here typing and I'm thinking to myself that if I was lucid, I would jump out the window and start flying. And I know it would feel real. However, in a dream, even if I'm lucid it still feels as if everything is in fast forward. I don't know when things begin, change, or end. I'm starting to fear that no matter how hard we try to become lucid, and stay aware, dreams are always going to seem like... dreams. We all know that even if we do become lucid it stills feels like we're following a script. I truly truly hope that I'm wrong, and that the only reason I feel this way is because my dream recall is mediocre. But at the same time, I feel as if my recall is pretty good. What would you guys consider good dream recall?? I had a lucid dream last night. The only thing I remember is sitting on the roof of some building thinking, "Man, why is everything so blurry?". So I yelled "Clarity!!" and the dream just ended. Lucids are supposed to feel extremely real, but I bet if I went to the rooftop right now and sat there like in the dream, the dream would seem crappy in comparision, EVEN THOUGH people and authors claim that the dream state is just as real as the waking state. I have Laberges book, ETWOLD. And there's this part of the book that always amazes me. The part where he talks about the experiments they did, where they gave dreamers certain eye signals, and the dreamers actually carried them out. Whenever I reread this I'm always like, "Wow, it must be complete real time for them to remember what they were supposed to do." Or maybe, it took a couple nights before the dreamers were able to give the signlas from the dream. What do you guys think?? Here's another thing that bugs me out. When you get to the chapter about WILDs, he starts talking about how WILDs aonly count for a certain ammount of his Ld's, but he doesn't state whether or not he intentionally tried to WILD, or if it just happened. He alsooo says at the beginning that WILDs "always" happen in association with brief awakenings from REM. Sometimes only one or two seconds long. This makes me believe that what we call "DEILD" is, in fact, the original WILD method. So yeh guys, sorry for the long post. I'm really worried about the whole real time question, because if our lucids aren't truly in real time and feel real, then why do we struggle so hard to have them? This is why I want to master WILD, because if you transition into the dream state without losing yourself, then of course the dream has to be in real time, because you're there through the whole thing!! I've become lucid soo many times... but still, it doesn't seem like I'm THERE...

[StrangeDreamsGuy]

Regardless of if they feel like they're in real time or not, they are. Your mind is just a little out of whack during dreams so it's sort of hard to keep track of the actual time. Jumping scenes also makes it seem like more time is passing than really is.

[zebrah]

Here is the thing. Dream time is different from real time so that can trough you off. I feel that lucids are weird. You experience them once when you are in the dream controlling stuff and again when you wake up and remeber it.

[Puffin]

I have a question regarding this too. I read somewhere that dreams are only 4 or 5 seconds long, but I once counted in an LD to around 30 seconds. How is this possible?

[Elucive]

Guys, I didn't mean real time as in how long a lucid can be. I meant like it still doesn't feel as if I'm there you know?? It's really hard to explain.

[zebrah]

I have a question regarding this too. I read somewhere that dreams are only 4 or 5 seconds long, but I once counted in an LD to around 30 seconds. How is this possible? Your REM phase lasts way longer then 5 seconds. And like I said time is subjective in dreams so you can have one dream that is 5 seonds and one that is a few hours in the same amount of time.

[lucidwannabe50]

Guys, I didn't mean real time as in how long a lucid can be. I meant like it still doesn't feel as if I'm there you know?? It's really hard to explain. I understand what your talking about, I think. For me it was the beginning of when I started lucid dreaming, for a few days I just woke up and had a memory of the dream but it didn't really feel or seem like I was in, say, my "dream" body. But after I started a dream journal it started to go away and it felt like I was actually there.

[StrangeDreamsGuy]

I have a question regarding this too. I read somewhere that dreams are only 4 or 5 seconds long, but I once counted in an LD to around 30 seconds. How is this possible? Dreams last between 1 second and 45 minutes depending on how far along you are in your REM (longer dreams as the night goes on).

[Ferret]

I think I know what you mean. You wake up in the morning and remember having the lucid but only as a memory, you dont actualy remember doing it? Is that right? Maby its just the clarity of you lucids? I have some that feel kinda like this and non-lucids definatly are like this for me but most of my lucids I rembember actualy being there.

[mattbrox]

I don't exactly know how to start this thread, except to just ask you guys, are your lucid dreams 100% real time? I've had tons of lucids but I still can't help but feel as if I didn't truly experience them, they were just new memories in my head when I woke up. It's really hard to explain what I'm trying to ask so I hope you guys get it. What I mean by real time is... you know.. what I'm feeling right now. I'm sitting here typing and I'm thinking to myself that if I was lucid, I would jump out the window and start flying. And I know it would feel real. However, in a dream, even if I'm lucid it still feels as if everything is in fast forward. I don't know when things begin, change, or end. About a week or two before Christmas when I was a kid I would have lots of dreams about it being Christmas. It would always disappoint me when I awoke. The same thing happens if you really want a lucid dream. I've had it about 8 times now when I have dreams about me having a lucid dream. Sometimes I would even go asleep in the dream then have a lucid dream, then wake up in the dream! When you have a real lucid dream, you'll know at the time and when you wake up.