Thread: Is it possible to dreamshare with a friend ? ( probably not haha)

I never really thought about telepathy!!!!
To my knowledge telepathy HAS been proven so why not lucidic dreaming?
Shared dreaming should be more funded so we can expariment more, but still people don't believe in telepathy so that's why it hasn't. Plus people just aren't all that interested in LD (though I can't fathom why)
Dude I'm going to try my own experiments with my brothers! (as soon as we all get better at LD and Dream control...)

...I might be jumping the gun with this... BUT IT'S STILL FUN TO THINK ABOUT.

Originally Posted by TahliaK

I've been watching this thread and now I need to post.

I do believe dream sharing is possible though it doesn't interest me. I don't need science to believe something works. For those people saying 'Maybe it's possible for DS to be real if telepathic communication is'. Well, it is, wether you believe it or not. I've heard what people have thought before, several times. I've spoken to many people who can talk telepathically. I telepathically talk to animals and yes, they talk back (another thing I dought people here will believe). I can even see/talk to ghosts/spirits sometimes.

Lucid dreaming is amazing but gosh, there is more amazing things as well.*

So, yes, I believe SD is real.

You may not need science to believe something, but if you want to prove it then you'll need science. What makes you believe you've heard people's thoughts? Even if you verified it with the person then it's infinitely more logical to assume that it's a coincidence; I'm sure most people have experienced this kind of thing several times as you claim, and dismissed it as coincidence without a second thought.

It's quite convenient that you claim to be able to telepathically communicate with animals rather than people, because they can't debunk your claims. How is it that animals have the capacity for telekinesis when most humans don't even claim to? When you communicate with the animal do you hear their thoughts as words spoken in English, if so why do you suppose they have the capacity for language, yet choose normally not to use it?

I'm not suggesting that you are dishonest, but it is simply wildly irrational to assume you have this kind of supernatural ability without thinking critically. I'm guessing for example, that you haven't attempted any kind of serious double blind experiment to support your theories, and if not then that might suggest it's because you're afraid that the results would go against your claims.

It's only infinitely more logical to assume it's coincidental if you choose to not believe it.

They don't necessarily communicate in english; more like with their energy. I think the message automatically gets translated into english when the energy reaches the recipient's mind.

Don't be so quick to judge. She's not the only one that says she can do this. There are a lot of people that can communicate telepathically (although this is the first time I've heard about communication with dogs still.....)

I am still learning about animal communication so I don't have proper answers for your questions but I'll answer them anyway.

Originally Posted by unda

You may not need science to believe something, but if you want to prove it then you'll need science. What makes you believe you've heard people's thoughts? Even if you verified it with the person then it's infinitely more logical to assume that it's a coincidence; I'm sure most people have experienced this kind of thing several times as you claim, and dismissed it as coincidence without a second thought.

Yes, I've verified it. I've verified it a lot more then once. I've talked to one person also just by speaking telepathically (as they could speak telepathically as well). I know people need to have things proven by science to believe but I don't. It would be cool to prove it though as you've said people need to see proof sometimes. If I was able to prove animal communication exists, I'd defiantly prove it.

It's quite convenient that you claim to be able to telepathically communicate with animals rather than people, because they can't debunk your claims. How is it that animals have the capacity for telekinesis when most humans don't even claim to? When you communicate with the animal do you hear their thoughts as words spoken in English, if so why do you suppose they have the capacity for language, yet choose normally not to use it?

The reason I communicate with animals over people because I only know one person who was willing to help me out. My family doesn't believe it and I only have 5 friends in real life. I don't do it because they can't de-bunk my claim, animals are more interesting to talk to as well, I also like them more then people and I can help people out with there animals. I don't fully understand why animals can talk telepathically as easy as humans; I have my own idea but I'm not fully sure as I'm still learning about this myself. I mean, look at us humans, some of us are so judgmental, we have a hard time believing in so many things just because they arn't classified as being possible, we block ourselves of what we are capable of because we need proof to believe something, some of us can be so close minded. Dogs arn't like that. They already know what they can do, they know they can talk to us but they also know not everyone can hear them. Every human can communicate telepathically, EVERYONE. So many people don't know this or they don't believe this.

I don't understand how they can speak in English. Then again, if I was speaking to a animal in French, I'd hear them speaking French so I think them 'talking' words is something I need to look into. I don't know if it's the energy situation Willford is talking about. It's a good question and I'll have to find out one day. To add, dogs can speak by language but also by showing images, letting you smell smells, I can feel there feelings/emotions for certain situations. I had a dog a day ago that talked only by showing me images. A few months ago, a dog that only talked by speaking words

I'm not suggesting that you are dishonest, but it is simply wildly irrational to assume you have this kind of supernatural ability without thinking critically. I'm guessing for example, that you haven't attempted any kind of serious double blind experiment to support your theories, and if not then that might suggest it's because you're afraid that the results would go against your claims.

I understand. I've met a lot of skeptics. I haven't done any experiments because I've never thought of it. Trust me, I'd be up for it one day. I don't know who to contact about to do these experiments though.
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I had a hard time believing this myself until I saw proof this was real. I've seen the proof when I've gotten results back from the owners or knowing sometime will happen because the dogs told me and I later on saw what the dog said was true.

I appreciate you attempting to answer my questions, and I agree that just because something has yet to be scientifically proven it does not mean that it is impossible; with this kind of thinking nothing new would ever be discovered. However, if you disregard evidence and experimentation then your beliefs are arbitrary and you should expect them to be questioned. You make the claim that "EVERYONE" can communicate telepathically, what makes you believe this? It's good that you'd be prepared to attempt to prove telekinesis is possible, but why is it that of all the people in history who have made this claim, nobody has ever been able to provide significant proof?

I'll reply to your questions in the morning

I believe everyone can communicate telepathically because I've learnt that every person has physic abilities in them but not everyone is open to them because well, of course some people are raised not to believe some things, some people find it hard to believe and so forth; I think you get the idea. Cause these abalites seem so unnatural when they arn't, they seem so unreal, people assume these physic abilities arn't real. It has been shown that even the biggest skeptics, have had a experience and found out the abilities they have. This is talking about a skeptic who didn't believe. We forgot we can talk telepathically since we learn talk out loud. There is no need for us to talk telepathically. There has been a test done somewhere, I read it a few years back. Some one who could talk telepathically actually spoke telepathically to disabled kids who were unable to speak verbally. Our minds are a wonderful thing but people block some amazing things out.

Your second question; that's a awesome question but I don't have a proper answer because if there abilities were real; they should have been able to step forward and prove this. Good questions; why didn't they?. I know some people have personal reasons but out of so many people, there had to be some people willing to step forward.

Do you know if anyone in history has stepped forward to prove any of these physic abilities?. Some one, after all these years, should have.

I would step forward because I am confident in animal communication.

I sent you a message on your profile TahliaK but I can understand you being too busy to reply, I'd love for you to come on to DV Chat sometime to talk about this, I'm thoroughly interested!

I'm willing to step forward. Telepathy is as real as breathing is.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I'm willing to step forward. Telepathy is as real as breathing is.

Okay, that's fine, but you need to back it up for those of us who don't share that belief.

Dark_Merlin; thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see it, my phone can be a bit retarded and I haven't been on my computer on DV in a few days.

I will reply when it's morning (I just woke up through the night so back to bed =P).

Speak to you soon.

Originally Posted by TahliaK

I believe everyone can communicate telepathically because I've learnt that every person has physic abilities in them but not everyone is open to them because well, of course some people are raised not to believe some things, some people find it hard to believe and so forth; I think you get the idea. Cause these abalites seem so unnatural when they arn't, they seem so unreal, people assume these physic abilities arn't real.

That doesn't answer the question, how have you learnt that everyone has psychic abilities?

It has been shown that even the biggest skeptics, have had a experience and found out the abilities they have. This is talking about a skeptic who didn't believe. We forgot we can talk telepathically since we learn talk out loud. There is no need for us to talk telepathically. There has been a test done somewhere, I read it a few years back. Some one who could talk telepathically actually spoke telepathically to disabled kids who were unable to speak verbally. Our minds are a wonderful thing but people block some amazing things out.

Anyone can post a story online, if it were a peer reviewed scientific study then it would be front page news, I'm therefore assuming it was a spurious anecdotal post. Any chance you could track down the article and provide a link?

Your second question; that's a awesome question but I don't have a proper answer because if there abilities were real; they should have been able to step forward and prove this. Good questions; why didn't they?. I know some people have personal reasons but out of so many people, there had to be some people willing to step forward.

I appreciate your honesty, I hope you understand I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just encouraging you to think about these kinds of questions, and perhaps re-evaluate your understanding of the subject.

Do you know if anyone in history has stepped forward to prove any of these physic abilities?. Some one, after all these years, should have.

I would step forward because I am confident in animal communication.

The first step would be to conduct your own experiments and see if you can generate evidence for your case. It would be easy enough to design some experiments, you'd just then need to find some people willing to participate in them.

Originally Posted by TahliaK

I defiantly do requests . I'm part of a dog forum were I've been practicing on there dogs. At times I've had amazing readings and at other times, I have been a bit off.*

I can show you some readings I've done if your interested.

All I need is;

Name;
Age;
Sex;
Breed;
Questions you can verify (so, you know the answer to and I don't)
Questions you'd like to know the answer to.
And, a pic.*

One last thing, I won't be %100 correct but I shouldn't be %100 wrong. I've gotten quite good over time.*

Whoa, okay, sorry, I totally skimmed over this like a thousand times this thread was updated and never saw this reply!
Give it a shot, by all means, here's the info;
Lucy, 5 in may, Golden Cocker Spaniel.
Questions, as in ones you would ask her? Okay, how about where is her little bed in the house? Or what do my parents look like?
And I can't upload a pic, but here's a google pic which is pretty much dead on-

Originally Posted by Avalanche

Okay, that's fine, but you need to back it up for those of us who don't share that belief.

Avalanche , what do you care if i come forward for what i KNOW to be true? The days of fascism is over, we have freedom of speech nowadays. If you are a skeptic that's great. I applaud that. but please, take ur nazi comments somewhere else thank you.


Now. I wanted to say a few things about telepathy. I've been practicing this for over 6 months now and had some suprising results. I assumed that if telepathy is a real language and involves a mind to mind communication it is the transference of direct understanding to one another. It is not bound by language and in this way it could be a universal language of sorts. Atleast that's what i thought when i started trying it out. My experiences with telepathy forced me to broaden this view and while i still believe it upholds truth. I now think it is even more complex than that. And lesser forms of telepathy can be bound by language. But i'm still not sure about this.

When i started practicing this it seemed easier to do it on animals. Surely animals are able to still the mind and pick up on anything external. I used to have two dogs and they barked a lot. A lot of the times i'm upstairs and yelling for them to shut up hurts my throat and is just plain unpleasant. (besides, they rarely do for long anyway.) So i tried to telepathicly ask them to be still. They keep barking. Then i yell in my mind for them to shut up. Works everytime. Their barking always cuts shorts immediatly at the precise moment i yell at them. Just like they would if i yelled at them physically. But soon after, they would keep on barking because they are persistent in barking when my parents are not home.

The oldest dog always sits in front of the door waiting for them to come home. Especially if they have been gone for a long time he will stay there for a long time. I tried changing my methods and telepathicly explain to him that my parents are not coming home for the entire weekend. I told him to relax, and that they will come home eventually. He did. For the entire weekend he did not wait at the door anymore he just stayed with me and slept a lot. This is completely out of character for him.

I have not gotten anything back from my dogs tho except emotions and gut-feelings.
However, I have once had an experience where i was meditating and i heared a cat meow so vivid and loud that i heared no distance. It seemed to be originating from my own mind. Accompanied by a dream scene of a cat sitting on the frame of my window. And the feeling that a cat is sitting on top of my head partly because in my closed eyed vision i saw a bright silhouette of a cat made entirely out of light and it almost felt like he was sitting on top of my head. (so 1 dream scene in the back of my head and this light silhouette seemingly at the front, 2 scenes) I got utterly excited and in my rush and dumbness i stood up to find the cat on the window. Which was stupid because i should have explored the dream scene some more.

Well , there was no cat on my window but when i looked outside there was a cat sitting at the top of our gate surrounding our garden. It did not meow and as soon as i looked at it he started to climb down and joined another cat a few houses away from ours.

There's a lot more where that came from including talking to people on a daily basis. But since we are talking more about animals here i thought it was appropiate to share this.


I feel strongly that both thoughts and emotions are telepathic by their very nature. And emotions are a more pure way of communicating telepathicly because emotions can not lie.

It seems that with telepathy it is not even neccesary for the other person to put out anything in order to receive feelings and information. But these do not enter ur mind as formed words or thoughts they come in a pure vibe or feeling. This one is very elusive and takes practice to understand. But when the other party IS actively bestowing words and you are receiving this there is no doubt that you are having a telepathic conversation. It's just like having a normal conversation but without opening ur mouth. When you are at this wavelength you are able to directly communicate and it is even possible to lie in these situation (Again, based on personal experiences).

Don't take my word for it. I'm sure not all my conclusions are fact. Or that all my experiences with telepathy where actually telepathic. But i've had enough verification to conclude, atleast for myself and a few friends that telepathy is a real phenomenon and that it can be studied and proven by science as long as you give it a shot.

Find ur own truth folks.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Avalanche , what do you care if i come forward for what i KNOW to be true? The days of fascism is over, we have freedom of speech nowadays. If you are a skeptic that's great. I applaud that. but please, take ur nazi comments somewhere else thank you.

I think I'm right in saying I deserve a damn apology for that. Don't you dare calling me a nazi for asking you to give some evidence for what you put forward. This is a discussion thread, not a "post whatever the fuck we like thread".
I respect your right to have an opinion, as you would respect mine, all I asked was some reasons why you thought that way, I did not demand you explain yourself.

You didn't ask me anything. In fact you discouraged me from saying more.

It can't be a forum unless there's a flame war here and there

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Avalanche , what do you care if i come forward for what i KNOW to be true? The days of fascism is over, we have freedom of speech nowadays. If you are a skeptic that's great. I applaud that. but please, take ur nazi comments somewhere else thank you.

What a vile response to a perfectly reasonable comment. If you take a step back you should realise the total hypocrisy of your statement, it's laughable.

When i started practicing this it seemed easier to do it on animals. Surely animals are able to still the mind and pick up on anything external. I used to have two dogs and they barked a lot. A lot of the times i'm upstairs and yelling for them to shut up hurts my throat and is just plain unpleasant. (besides, they rarely do for long anyway.) So i tried to telepathicly ask them to be still. They keep barking. Then i yell in my mind for them to shut up. Works everytime. Their barking always cuts shorts immediatly at the precise moment i yell at them. Just like they would if i yelled at them physically. But soon after, they would keep on barking because they are persistent in barking when my parents are not home.

As I said to TahliaK, the fact that you find it easier with animals seems convenient to your cause, and is therefore even less impressive. The statement "Surely animals are able to still the mind and pick up on anything external" is, in my opinion, incredibly vague and doesn't come close to providing an explanation for why animals find it easier than humans.

The oldest dog always sits in front of the door waiting for them to come home. Especially if they have been gone for a long time he will stay there for a long time. I tried changing my methods and telepathicly explain to him that my parents are not coming home for the entire weekend. I told him to relax, and that they will come home eventually. He did. For the entire weekend he did not wait at the door anymore he just stayed with me and slept a lot. This is completely out of character for him.

That may impress you, but you can't expect it to impress anyone else. It would seem more unlikely to me that a dog would wait by a door for an entire weekend, to attribute it to telepathy is totally outlandish.

I have not gotten anything back from my dogs tho except emotions and gut-feelings.
However, I have once had an experience where i was meditating and i heared a cat meow so vivid and loud that i heared no distance. It seemed to be originating from my own mind. Accompanied by a dream scene of a cat sitting on the frame of my window. And the feeling that a cat is sitting on top of my head partly because in my closed eyed vision i saw a bright silhouette of a cat made entirely out of light and it almost felt like he was sitting on top of my head. (so 1 dream scene in the back of my head and this light silhouette seemingly at the front, 2 scenes) I got utterly excited and in my rush and dumbness i stood up to find the cat on the window. Which was stupid because i should have explored the dream scene some more.

Well , there was no cat on my window but when i looked outside there was a cat sitting at the top of our gate surrounding our garden. It did not meow and as soon as i looked at it he started to climb down and joined another cat a few houses away from ours.

Since the majority of people on this forum have probably experienced hypnagogic imagery and other hallucinations, and taken them to have no significance, this is again unlikely to impress. Moreover, the fact that you take looking out the window and seeing a cat as evidence that it was some kind of paranormal experience is utterly bizarre, given how common cats are in the streets. This kind of claim makes it hard to take your belief seriously, I think you're clutching at straws.

There's a lot more where that came from including talking to people on a daily basis. But since we are talking more about animals here i thought it was appropiate to share this.


I feel strongly that both thoughts and emotions are telepathic by their very nature. And emotions are a more pure way of communicating telepathicly because emotions can not lie.

It seems that with telepathy it is not even neccesary for the other person to put out anything in order to receive feelings and information. But these do not enter ur mind as formed words or thoughts they come in a pure vibe or feeling. This one is very elusive and takes practice to understand. But when the other party IS actively bestowing words and you are receiving this there is no doubt that you are having a telepathic conversation. It's just like having a normal conversation but without opening ur mouth. When you are at this wavelength you are able to directly communicate and it is even possible to lie in these situation (Again, based on personal experiences).

This is all complete conjecture, you appear to be stating it as if it were fact.

Don't take my word for it. I'm sure not all my conclusions are fact. Or that all my experiences with telepathy where actually telepathic. But i've had enough verification to conclude, atleast for myself and a few friends that telepathy is a real phenomenon and that it can be studied and proven by science as long as you give it a shot.

Find ur own truth folks.

I might have taken this last statement seriously, if it weren't for your opening statement. It seems that you aren't considering the gravitas of your belief, it would take significantly more evidence than you even claim to have experienced for anyone with any understanding of science to even consider that it might be valid.

Originally Posted by unda

What a vile response to a perfectly reasonable comment. If you take a step back you should realise the total hypocrisy of your statement, it's laughable.

It is vile, sure. I'll give you that. Maybe a little unnecesary but i'm tired of being mr. nice guy to people that are not nice at all. It's one thing to ask for explanation it is quite another to tell me to back it off because someone doesn't share my belief.

Now, i don't really care and i wasn't discouraged because i was determined to make this post. But look at it from a clean perspective you can see the disrespect that was perceived by me. And in my ego perspective i decided to lash out a phantom punch to set this little phantom boxing match straight.

Sorry Avalanche. I mean that. But i'm a truthful guy my apology is only 50% genuine..

Originally Posted by unda

As I said to TahliaK, the fact that you find it easier with animals seems convenient to your cause, and is therefore even less impressive. The statement "Surely animals are able to still the mind and pick up on anything external" is, in my opinion, incredibly vague and doesn't come close to providing an explanation for why animals find it easier than humans.

Like i said this was the mindset i had when i got into this. And i think it's quite logical to assume that animals are able to still the mind more than us because animals don't know any words. Without words it's not unreasonable to assume that there is less mind-chatter. I have no idea how animals actually think. If they even do at all.

I never said it is easier to try this on animals i just said it was easier to start trying it on animals. Especially given the taboo's in discussing something as strange as telepathy. But in fact in my own experiences it is harder with animals. Not just because i haven't gotten them to talk back but also because it is hard to confirm this with animals.

Originally Posted by unda

Since the majority of people on this forum have probably experienced hypnagogic imagery and other hallucinations, and taken them to have no significance, this is again unlikely to impress.

I understand that. I also don't put that much significance on hypnagogic imagery they seem to random and weird to be able to discern anything useful out of it. But , atleast they serve a great source of inspiration for artists and many paintings have been inspired by experiences with hypnagogic imagery.

Hallucinations on the other hand i do find very significant in a lot of things. I haven't understood them all but atleast in terms of dreams some hallucinations have effectively allowed me to predict dreams i would have later. And shown me a kind of psychic connection. I realize you might find it absurd but let me remind u psyche means mental. It doesn't neccesarily refer to something extraordinary. (Altho i am considering extraordinary options.)

Originally Posted by unda

The fact that you take looking out the window and seeing a cat as evidence that it was some kind of paranormal experience is utterly bizarre, given how common cats are in the streets. This kind of claim makes it hard to take your belief seriously, I think you're clutching at straws.

I admit i'm not sure about the dog. But this experience with the cat is something that intrigues me greatly. You have to think of it in my own point of view. I am interested in astral projection, shared dreams and telepathy. I sit silently and suddenly out of nowhere i have the most intense sensation that a cat is inside my head. I see a dream scene form with a cat waiting at my window as if for me to invite him in. In another field of vision i see the silhouette of a cat made out of bright white light. I can even feel the cat's weight and body on my forehead. (Between my brows, commonly refered to as "Third eye" or "Crown chakra")
The feeling is so intense and the dream scene is so real that i forgot i was trying to explore my mind and jumped up to find that cat. Completely convinced there is a cat outside i look and there is one sitting right on top of our backgate. And as soon he realizes i noticed him he leaves immediatly to socialize with another cat a few houses away.
I woulden't highlight this to myself if it was just a cat minding it's own business. But why is it sitting on my backgate. And why was it leaving at the time i looked out my window?
My thoughts on this is that the cat was interested in communicating with me in a dream / telepathically. When i aborted the connection he lost interest and went to continue his own business.

Originally Posted by unda

This is all complete conjecture, you appear to be stating it as if it were fact.

I went into a little more in-depth mechanics of telepathy. Surely at this point it is not neccesary to repeatedly state that these are my thoughts and don't neccesarily reflect science's view on things. I say these things because this is how i experience telepathy. It was meant for those who are geniunely trying to understand telepathy.
And for this purpose i assumed for a second that telepathy is a common truth in order to share my thoughts and theorize about the nature of this phenomenon.

Besides, right after i told you not to take my word for this and find ur own truth. Try it out i'd say.

Originally Posted by unda

I might have taken this last statement seriously, if it weren't for your opening statement. It seems that you aren't considering the gravitas of your belief, it would take significantly more evidence than you even claim to have experienced for anyone with any understanding of science to even consider that it might be valid.

Trust me, i understand that my claims are hard to believe for some. But these aren't my only experiences. It would take me several weeks to sum them all up. But i have accumulated enough confidence to go public with this. Not just under the face of anonimity on forums. I'm writing papers on this and i'm willing to test this under scientific circumstances.

I'm not the only one claiming that telepathy is an actual phenomenon. And that everyone can do it. Someone told me that in the 2009 documentary about Bill Hicks called ; "American : The Bill Hicks story" bill's best friend said he and Bill had a telepathic experience on shrooms and that this experience changed Bill's life.

I've met dozens of people who claim telepathy is real. And there's loads of information about it spread all over the internet. I realize we are a minority and that you don't believe it unless you proof it to urself. I understand that. I am exactly the same. But i have proven it to myself and i'm willing to put the effort in to prove it to the world aswell.

Okay. I'm sorry for the EXTREME length on this and perhaps my way of articulating things. I know. I'm aware of it. But this is the way i like to do things and given the nature of what we are discussing it's hard (atleast for me) , to keep things short. And all that on a topic about dream sharing. But if telepathy can be proven to be a real phenomenon perhaps it will open ur mind to the possibility of sharing dreams. Which is way more interesting in my opinion.

Thanks for taking the time to read and feel free to critisize anything or ask questions. I'm open to answer any questions you want to ask.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

It is vile, sure. I'll give you that. Maybe a little unnecesary but i'm tired of being mr. nice guy to people that are not nice at all. It's one thing to ask for explanation it is quite another to tell me to back it off because someone doesn't share my belief.

Now, i don't really care and i wasn't discouraged because i was determined to make this post. But look at it from a clean perspective you can see the disrespect that was perceived by me. And in my ego perspective i decided to lash out a phantom punch to set this little phantom boxing match straight.

Sorry Avalanche. I mean that. But i'm a truthful guy my apology is only 50% genuine..

No. Not good enough buddy. Firstly, you called me a NAZI for asking you to elaborate on your idea. Then you lashed out and called me a Nazi for basically 1) Saying I don't agree 2) You need to give more info on why if you want to post in this thread.

If you were able to just write that, then by that range of thinking I could come on and say "yeah, people do have psychic abilities because mobile phones can talk to each other and they use electricity, and so does the human brain, so it must be true". I can't just say that without actually giving some proper info why I think that.
Also, by instantly calling me a Nazi you basically said "nope, I don't have to argue my point, it is right, no one can even begin to question me"

Well if that's the case, make your clearly unstable point that you obviously have no faith in and kindly piss off out of this thread.

Of course, not before you actually properly, 100% apologize for calling me a Nazi.

It seems you misinterpreted Avalanche's initial comment, he said "you need to back it up" meaning you need to provide some evidence for your claims. You seem to have misunderstood him as telling you to "back off", in which case your anger was understandable. Just a simple misunderstanding, I think we can all happily retract our comments!

I'd be interested to see the papers you're writing if you don't mind, though I have to admit you haven't gone any way to convincing me you have any scientific basis so far. I'm well aware that there are plenty of people who believe in telepathy and the like, just as there billions of people who believe in numerous different religions, the problem they share is that they have no scientific basis. Even if you were in the majority it wouldn't change my opinion.

I'll ask a question since you offered. Have you thought about an evolutionary reason for why as you claim, all humans have the capacity for telepathy, yet the vast majority don't use it or even realise they have the ability?

Originally Posted by unda

Have you thought about an evolutionary reason for why as you claim, all humans have the capacity for telepathy, yet the vast majority don't use it or even realise they have the ability?

^^ This. It occurs to me - if we had telepathy to begin with, then why would there be any need to invent a spoken language? Unless telepathy was weak and/or not very effective.

Originally Posted by unda

It seems you misinterpreted Avalanche's initial comment, he said "you need to back it up" meaning you need to provide some evidence for your claims. You seem to have misunderstood him as telling you to "back off", in which case your anger was understandable. Just a simple misunderstanding, I think we can all happily retract our comments!

I would love to do that, and I gladly will, but only after I get my apology please. I don't like making DV a shithrowing flamewar site, but if I can get called a nazi and just have that comment wiped away then I don't think that's fair.

Originally Posted by unda

It seems you misinterpreted Avalanche's initial comment, he said "you need to back it up" meaning you need to provide some evidence for your claims. You seem to have misunderstood him as telling you to "back off", in which case your anger was understandable. Just a simple misunderstanding, I think we can all happily retract our comments!

Yeah, that's right. Sorry Avalanche for saying u made nazi comments. I did misinterpret the post.
Peace.

Originally Posted by unda

I'd be interested to see the papers you're writing if you don't mind, though I have to admit you haven't gone any way to convincing me you have any scientific basis so far. I'm well aware that there are plenty of people who believe in telepathy and the like, just as there billions of people who believe in numerous different religions, the problem they share is that they have no scientific basis. Even if you were in the majority it wouldn't change my opinion.

I have only written a bunch of stuff about brain chemistry and mushrooms by now. I haven't mentioned the word telepathy as of now. If you want i can PM you a more convincing experience. But it was kind of personal. I'd rather not just post it on this thread.

Originally Posted by unda

I'll ask a question since you offered. Have you thought about an evolutionary reason for why as you claim, all humans have the capacity for telepathy, yet the vast majority don't use it or even realise they have the ability?

I don't know about an evolutionary reason as to why we can do this but most don't realize. But it could have been that we used to be more in tune with our natural abilities. And then we lost it. And we learned to write and telepathy became unnecessary for further development. And we just forgot about it. And now, i think, we are on the verge of rediscovering our true potential.

The reason i think that the majority doesn't realize telepathy is a real thing is because all our thoughts are telepathic by nature. And it's hard to distinguish the thoughts that come to you and the things you actually think. I don't think it's that black and white tho. Not that each person has their own mind and own thoughts and we constantly send/receive. It's more that all thoughts originate from the same mind and that sometimes you get on the same wavelength and you can think the same things. You know that situation where someone suggests something and you where thinking the exact same thing at that time. Well, imho that's because the thought was received by both parties.