Thread: Is it possible to dreamshare with a friend ? ( probably not haha)

This is a idea my friend gave me, and although it's a very abstract idea it's really interesting. What if there was a way to go to sleep at the same time as a friend of yours and have a lucid dream together . Of course it sounds kind of impossible but maybe there could be an way. My friend is trying to figure out a possible way to do so, and however weird it sounds I believe he could find a way. Any ideas ?

Shared Dreaming is not scientifically proven, but there is alot of studies going on at the moment on this forum.
In my opinion yes it is, simply because the results from the experiments are so good (the amount of similar dreams is beyond coincidence.)
Here are some links to some areas of the forum about Shared Dreaming:
WakingNomads Shared Dreaming tutorial
Official Thread
Shared Dreaming Forum
Shared Dreaming test results page
Hoped this helped, goodluck

I think it is, it's just VERY difficult. I've thought about the same.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Pandabear

I think it is, it's just VERY difficult. I've thought about the same.

Good luck!

Well that depends on the way you look at it, basically all you have to do is have strong intent to share dreams with the person, and then the effort comes into analysing the dreams to see if there is any overlap.

Originally Posted by Arch

Well that depends on the way you look at it, basically all you have to do is have strong intent to share dreams with the person, and then the effort comes into analysing the dreams to see if there is any overlap.

From what I've read - The persons have to do the same thing together in the evening (e.g. Cinema), sleep in same room. Then they would have to dream in the same time in the night, and even both have a Lucid dream. For me it sounds difficult, but you're right, maybe someone find it easier, like LDing.

We can't make assertions yet about what is difficult or possible. It has yet to be proven, so we cannot say it is hard because logically it would be hard. Same thing applies when they set up the telephone line network. Thousands and thousands of miles of cables just so we could make a phone call. But we did it, so it was possible. Shared dreaming could be as possible, we have just not yet done it.

Maybe someday someone will prove it is possible, and then everyone will be into it and doing it.

You never know.

I would say no, but then I heard about the Ganzfeld experiment, where it sort of was proven (all though alot of critics, but still) that telepathy was possible.
When you think about it, dreams are just vivid thoughts, but if it is possible I still have to experience it myself to believe it.

Originally Posted by Choi

I would say no, but then I heard about the Ganzfeld experiment, where it sort of was proven (all though alot of critics, but still) that telepathy was possible.
When you think about it, dreams are just vivid thoughts, but if it is possible I still have to experience it myself to believe it.

That's the same with most people, but denying the fact is could be possible is silly.
And panda, that method would explain false Shared Dreaming, because of course then the events of the day would influence the dreams and there may be overlap.

Why is it silly? Just because it's something close to being possible and it's unproven means it must be true because that's clearly the way proving things works?
No, it could still be a load of crap. Like everyone who claims to have done it could be lying, dreaming about it because they wanted to do it, misinformed or pure pure coincidence.

Don't get me wrong, I would love for this to be true, and I hope it is, but just because it is nearly proven doesn't make it silly to believe it must be true.

Well In my opinion I think someone or in this case you and your friend you want to drew share with,have to both be able to use their brain properly, in a way like meditation or like telepathy. That's the only way it seems possible to me. And as we can only use a small percentage of our brain,and telepathy is not something we do, I think we may be years away from being able to dreamshare

Then again, who ever said we can't dreamshare already? Humans could always, for example, fight. But before we practiced and discovered moves and what not, we couldn't actually do it. Alot of what we do is down to knowing how it is done. For all we know, all we have to do is fast for 2hours and read about the person with whom we want to dream share with. It could be as simple as that.
It boils down to this: it could be possible, but it might not. Just because it is unproven doesn't mean it is impossible, nor does it mean it is true and just waiting to be discovered.

I've heard a lot of strange coincidences with people who sleep in the same house, maybe a little farther. I think this may be true, but hundreds of miles, I don't think that is possible, unless it's proven of course.

Moved to Beyond Dreaming.

Originally Posted by CheapFiction

This is a idea my friend gave me, and although it's a very abstract idea it's really interesting. What if there was a way to go to sleep at the same time as a friend of yours and have a lucid dream together . Of course it sounds kind of impossible but maybe there could be an way. My friend is trying to figure out a possible way to do so, and however weird it sounds I believe he could find a way. Any ideas ?

In my experience, yes. Welcome to DV.

Personally no, not being negative, I even joined the shared dreaming group, to see if I could be proven wrong. It just seems ridiculous, being lucid is possible because it's YOUR mind, and your mind can't link with someone else's. This is just my opinion, don't troll me ^.^

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Personally no, not being negative, I even joined the shared dreaming group, to see if I could be proven wrong. It just seems ridiculous, being lucid is possible because it's YOUR mind, and your mind can't link with someone else's. This is just my opinion, don't troll me ^.^

Don't we link with each others minds every day? Talking can be considered a form of telepathy, just that we communicate with sound. Think about that, not only can we make sounds which are meaningful to ourselves, but we can make sounds and be understood by other people, thus changing someone else's perception of the world.

Why do you say it can't link with someone else's? I agree, I too am doubtful, but then again there is no reason not to, is there? People couldn't swim until we learned how to. What's to say the same thing can't happen for shared dreaming?

Originally Posted by Avalanche

Why do you say it can't link with someone else's? I agree, I too am doubtful, but then again there is no reason not to, is there? People couldn't swim until we learned how to. What's to say the same thing can't happen for shared dreaming?

I feel somewhat the same way. I want to doubt it because I'm too rational in my thinking and I know (or I've been taught) that dreams originate within our own mind and everything is an illusion of our own subconsciousness but I don't want to completely denounce the concept of shared dreaming. If you had told me about lucid dreaming a year ago I would've thought it was complete bull**** but hey here we are! So I'm just incredibly skeptical until someone successfully proves me otherwise.

I would have always accepted the idea of lucid dreaming- it's just dreams in which you are awake. Not actually awake, just aware. The science checks out and makes sense when you think about it.
Shared dreaming isn't accepted by most people because it involves something which most of us don't believe in- telepathy. But why not?
Lucid dreaming is all about the paradox that you can be dreaming while aware/awake. It works because this this and this, so why not shared dreaming?

It all comes down to whether or not telepathy is real. If it is, then shared dreaming probably is. If it isn't, then odds are neither is S.D. Just because it isn't proven doesn't mean it isn't true, nor does it mean it's waiting to be proven so.

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Maybe with some tecnology, in the future It could be possible. Nowdays we only can try litle experiences, louded of subjective stuffs, but this is really a fascinanting subject.

I've been watching this thread and now I need to post.

I do believe dream sharing is possible though it doesn't interest me. I don't need science to believe something works. For those people saying 'Maybe it's possible for DS to be real if telepathic communication is'. Well, it is, wether you believe it or not. I've heard what people have thought before, several times. I've spoken to many people who can talk telepathically. I telepathically talk to animals and yes, they talk back (another thing I dought people here will believe). I can even see/talk to ghosts/spirits sometimes.

Lucid dreaming is amazing but gosh, there is more amazing things as well.*

So, yes, I believe SD is real.

Originally Posted by TahliaK

I've been watching this thread and now I need to post.

I do believe dream sharing is possible though it doesn't interest me. I don't need science to believe something works. For those people saying 'Maybe it's possible for DS to be real if telepathic communication is'. Well, it is, wether you believe it or not. I've heard what people have thought before, several times. I've spoken to many people who can talk telepathically. I telepathically talk to animals and yes, they talk back (another thing I dought people here will believe). I can even see/talk to ghosts/spirits sometimes.

Lucid dreaming is amazing but gosh, there is more amazing things as well.*

So, yes, I believe SD is real.

You may not need science to believe something, but if you want to prove it then you'll need science. What makes you believe you've heard people's thoughts? Even if you verified it with the person then it's infinitely more logical to assume that it's a coincidence; I'm sure most people have experienced this kind of thing several times as you claim, and dismissed it as coincidence without a second thought.

It's quite convenient that you claim to be able to telepathically communicate with animals rather than people, because they can't debunk your claims. How is it that animals have the capacity for telekinesis when most humans don't even claim to? When you communicate with the animal do you hear their thoughts as words spoken in English, if so why do you suppose they have the capacity for language, yet choose normally not to use it?

I'm not suggesting that you are dishonest, but it is simply wildly irrational to assume you have this kind of supernatural ability without thinking critically. I'm guessing for example, that you haven't attempted any kind of serious double blind experiment to support your theories, and if not then that might suggest it's because you're afraid that the results would go against your claims.

It's only infinitely more logical to assume it's coincidental if you choose to not believe it.

They don't necessarily communicate in english; more like with their energy. I think the message automatically gets translated into english when the energy reaches the recipient's mind.

Don't be so quick to judge. She's not the only one that says she can do this. There are a lot of people that can communicate telepathically (although this is the first time I've heard about communication with dogs still.....)

I am still learning about animal communication so I don't have proper answers for your questions but I'll answer them anyway.

Originally Posted by unda

You may not need science to believe something, but if you want to prove it then you'll need science. What makes you believe you've heard people's thoughts? Even if you verified it with the person then it's infinitely more logical to assume that it's a coincidence; I'm sure most people have experienced this kind of thing several times as you claim, and dismissed it as coincidence without a second thought.

Yes, I've verified it. I've verified it a lot more then once. I've talked to one person also just by speaking telepathically (as they could speak telepathically as well). I know people need to have things proven by science to believe but I don't. It would be cool to prove it though as you've said people need to see proof sometimes. If I was able to prove animal communication exists, I'd defiantly prove it.

It's quite convenient that you claim to be able to telepathically communicate with animals rather than people, because they can't debunk your claims. How is it that animals have the capacity for telekinesis when most humans don't even claim to? When you communicate with the animal do you hear their thoughts as words spoken in English, if so why do you suppose they have the capacity for language, yet choose normally not to use it?

The reason I communicate with animals over people because I only know one person who was willing to help me out. My family doesn't believe it and I only have 5 friends in real life. I don't do it because they can't de-bunk my claim, animals are more interesting to talk to as well, I also like them more then people and I can help people out with there animals. I don't fully understand why animals can talk telepathically as easy as humans; I have my own idea but I'm not fully sure as I'm still learning about this myself. I mean, look at us humans, some of us are so judgmental, we have a hard time believing in so many things just because they arn't classified as being possible, we block ourselves of what we are capable of because we need proof to believe something, some of us can be so close minded. Dogs arn't like that. They already know what they can do, they know they can talk to us but they also know not everyone can hear them. Every human can communicate telepathically, EVERYONE. So many people don't know this or they don't believe this.

I don't understand how they can speak in English. Then again, if I was speaking to a animal in French, I'd hear them speaking French so I think them 'talking' words is something I need to look into. I don't know if it's the energy situation Willford is talking about. It's a good question and I'll have to find out one day. To add, dogs can speak by language but also by showing images, letting you smell smells, I can feel there feelings/emotions for certain situations. I had a dog a day ago that talked only by showing me images. A few months ago, a dog that only talked by speaking words

I'm not suggesting that you are dishonest, but it is simply wildly irrational to assume you have this kind of supernatural ability without thinking critically. I'm guessing for example, that you haven't attempted any kind of serious double blind experiment to support your theories, and if not then that might suggest it's because you're afraid that the results would go against your claims.

I understand. I've met a lot of skeptics. I haven't done any experiments because I've never thought of it. Trust me, I'd be up for it one day. I don't know who to contact about to do these experiments though.
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I had a hard time believing this myself until I saw proof this was real. I've seen the proof when I've gotten results back from the owners or knowing sometime will happen because the dogs told me and I later on saw what the dog said was true.

I have to ask, how do you speak to animals? What do they normally say?

I'm not doubting you (even if I do doubt this is real), but I am interested.