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    Thread: Telepathic/meeting dreams?

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      Telepathic/meeting dreams?

      OK i just want to know if it is possible to meet someone in a dream recurringly and this person is and cannot be contacted in waking life, but you both have telepathic occurances during waking life, i dunno if he (the other person) is getting or recieving my messages and thoughts through telepathic occurances but i just want to know if it is achievable through dreams as well? And recurring dream meetings mean the person is confirming this telepathic occurances both waking and dream state?
      FYI it's someone i lost contact of long ago.

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      I think it would generally be necessary for the other person to have some interest or opening in your direction. Otherwise your touches are not as likely to be interpreted in a way that connects them positively with you. Everything you communicate is altered by the other person.

      I don't see much difference between waking life telepathy and dream telepathy. If you can do one you are probably already doing the other, even if you're not conscious of it in the same way.

      I have a an old friend who I'm psychically attached to, and dream about occasionally. I don't know what effect it has on him, but I don't think its a healthy dynamic for me.

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      Well i recently again had a telepathic dream of him, i wrote it down in dream journal forum thread. It is very interesting i say.
      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      I think it would generally be necessary for the other person to have some interest or opening in your direction. Otherwise your touches are not as likely to be interpreted in a way that connects them positively with you. Everything you communicate is altered by the other person.

      I don't see much difference between waking life telepathy and dream telepathy. If you can do one you are probably already doing the other, even if you're not conscious of it in the same way.

      I have a an old friend who I'm psychically attached to, and dream about occasionally. I don't know what effect it has on him, but I don't think its a healthy dynamic for me.

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      I believe telepathy and shared dreams are not related. they both have one prerequisite in common though, the incredible awareness of all sorts of things happening around you. but for a shared dream you'd additionally need to intentionally and consciously leave your ordinary dreams behind and dream of places which exist for real, in order to meet there with the other person. at least one of the two people needs to have that ability and then develop the ability to drag the other person's dreaming-self into that part of the world. but the first step into shared dreams always is that both people sometimes dream of places which exist for real and which did presumably look exactly the way they did look in that dream, at exactly the same time as that dream happened. i.e. a dream at night must be either of places in the dark or of places you visited in the asian parts of the world...

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      I know what shared dreams are, i studied them by reading books a long time ago, also telepathy. I never said they were related, but can be done both at the same time in dreams.

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      Hathor, this thread really hit home for me. I wish I could tell you with extreme certainty that this is possible, but as you said without waking life contact it's pretty much impossible to confirm. Personally, I believe it is possible, and that I'm going through something very similar to your own experience. I'll share my story and my reasons for why I think it's possible, in hopes that it will help you reach your own conclusions.

      A year and a few month ago I had a dream about a guy who defeated a demon in my dream. He was a jerk, but I felt very deeply connected to him. Similar to your beach dream you posted on the 29th, I can sense him where as other DCs can not be sensed. I can sense people, animals and spirits in waking life... but in dreams they usually have no feeling as if they're not really there. I didn't think much of it at the time, but a couple weeks later the same guy appeared in another dream. This time, as I was waking up, I "heard" in my head a voice saying, "That dream wasn't as exciting as the first, but it was still fun" (or something to that effect, I've forgotten the exact words over time, lol) It was at that point that I began to wonder if there was something more to this dream person. I wondered if it was a real person or spirit somehow watching my dreams. A couple weeks later I had another dream of him, and this time I noticed he had weird moving gears tattooed on his back. I asked him about them, and he told me, "I don't know, this is your dream. Why did you put gears on me?" At the time, I had no knowledge of lucid dreaming. I had been told as a child by my father that a dream is all in my head and I should be able to wake myself up from nightmares, but I had never had a lucid dream before and thought it was just him trying to make me go to sleep at night not really possible. This guy, I call him Kurasawa because that was the name he took in the first dream (and I'm very sure it's not his real name, especially since I got by all sorts of names in my own dreams, lol), he has appeared in many of my dreams since. Especially since I started looking into lucid dreaming. Since I started becoming lucid, he always seems to hang back and wait for me to find him, he doesn't just show up. When I go through dry spells of a couple weeks or longer, he'll often show up and ask me if I'm looking for him, or he'll lead me around never letting me catch him. I'm hoovering between thinking he's real and thinking he's a dream guide. On one hand, he is teaching me about lucid dreaming like I imagine a dream guide would, but on the other hand I've always had this feeling that he was real, not just a spirit. I actually sensed him in a toy store a couple months ago. I turned to look and saw a tall guy over some boxes that didn't look a thing like him and assumed I was imagining things. A moment later my husband started asking me a question and I turned around again. This time the tall guy was walking out from behind the boxes and I could see he had a friend with him who was shorter than the stacked boxes, and the friend looked exactly like Kurasawa. He looked directly at me, and I completely panicked. Could that really be him? If so, how am I going to explain these dreams and everything to my husband who has no clue? The guys eyes were wide, like you do when you can't believe something or are surprised or shocked or scared. My kid started crying over wanting a toy that the store didn't even have, and I got flustered and broke eye contact to comfort my son and make him stop crying. I felt like he was still looking at me though. I have no proof as I wasn't looking at him, I don't know if it was the same guy, or anything like that. All I know is that I've been having those dreams, and after a year of having them I get this feeling that he's nearby and see someone who looks exactly like him (only with wider eyes) and that the person I saw was looking at me as well (thought it could have been because of my kid crying.) There are so many variables I can't say for sure anything, just share my story with you to show you why I think it it totally possible to share dreams.

      As a side note, I'm going to throw in that I used to have a touch of telepathy as a teen. I would say things that someone else was about to say, I'd always throw the same hand when playing rock paper scissors as the other person so I always tied never won or lost, and I also knew when my grandmother and my best guy friend at the time died hours before they actually died. I don't know that this helps your telepathy argument any as my experiences these days are limited to being able to tell when others are near only, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to throw it in there.

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      That was really great to read your story about your shared dream with a guy you recurringly dreamt about, which i also have the same thing but it's been happening over 7 years, yes me and him lost contact on our early years of our teens. One difference between your guy and mine is that mine wasn't a jerk in dreams
      In waking life i do sense he is thinking of me where ever i go, i even sense he might be in my city because my senses are powerfully taking over more than 7yrs ago, but i don't know for a fact if he is living here or not. In dreams he does let me call for him, and sometimes he comes unexpectedly. The reason why i know it's him in my dreams is his figure and wearing of clothing is similar since i last saw him.
      Is this guy in your dreams someone you used to know??
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      Hathor, this thread really hit home for me. I wish I could tell you with extreme certainty that this is possible, but as you said without waking life contact it's pretty much impossible to confirm. Personally, I believe it is possible, and that I'm going through something very similar to your own experience. I'll share my story and my reasons for why I think it's possible, in hopes that it will help you reach your own conclusions.

      A year and a few month ago I had a dream about a guy who defeated a demon in my dream. He was a jerk, but I felt very deeply connected to him. Similar to your beach dream you posted on the 29th, I can sense him where as other DCs can not be sensed. I can sense people, animals and spirits in waking life... but in dreams they usually have no feeling as if they're not really there. I didn't think much of it at the time, but a couple weeks later the same guy appeared in another dream. This time, as I was waking up, I "heard" in my head a voice saying, "That dream wasn't as exciting as the first, but it was still fun" (or something to that effect, I've forgotten the exact words over time, lol) It was at that point that I began to wonder if there was something more to this dream person. I wondered if it was a real person or spirit somehow watching my dreams. A couple weeks later I had another dream of him, and this time I noticed he had weird moving gears tattooed on his back. I asked him about them, and he told me, "I don't know, this is your dream. Why did you put gears on me?" At the time, I had no knowledge of lucid dreaming. I had been told as a child by my father that a dream is all in my head and I should be able to wake myself up from nightmares, but I had never had a lucid dream before and thought it was just him trying to make me go to sleep at night not really possible. This guy, I call him Kurasawa because that was the name he took in the first dream (and I'm very sure it's not his real name, especially since I got by all sorts of names in my own dreams, lol), he has appeared in many of my dreams since. Especially since I started looking into lucid dreaming. Since I started becoming lucid, he always seems to hang back and wait for me to find him, he doesn't just show up. When I go through dry spells of a couple weeks or longer, he'll often show up and ask me if I'm looking for him, or he'll lead me around never letting me catch him. I'm hoovering between thinking he's real and thinking he's a dream guide. On one hand, he is teaching me about lucid dreaming like I imagine a dream guide would, but on the other hand I've always had this feeling that he was real, not just a spirit. I actually sensed him in a toy store a couple months ago. I turned to look and saw a tall guy over some boxes that didn't look a thing like him and assumed I was imagining things. A moment later my husband started asking me a question and I turned around again. This time the tall guy was walking out from behind the boxes and I could see he had a friend with him who was shorter than the stacked boxes, and the friend looked exactly like Kurasawa. He looked directly at me, and I completely panicked. Could that really be him? If so, how am I going to explain these dreams and everything to my husband who has no clue? The guys eyes were wide, like you do when you can't believe something or are surprised or shocked or scared. My kid started crying over wanting a toy that the store didn't even have, and I got flustered and broke eye contact to comfort my son and make him stop crying. I felt like he was still looking at me though. I have no proof as I wasn't looking at him, I don't know if it was the same guy, or anything like that. All I know is that I've been having those dreams, and after a year of having them I get this feeling that he's nearby and see someone who looks exactly like him (only with wider eyes) and that the person I saw was looking at me as well (thought it could have been because of my kid crying.) There are so many variables I can't say for sure anything, just share my story with you to show you why I think it it totally possible to share dreams.

      As a side note, I'm going to throw in that I used to have a touch of telepathy as a teen. I would say things that someone else was about to say, I'd always throw the same hand when playing rock paper scissors as the other person so I always tied never won or lost, and I also knew when my grandmother and my best guy friend at the time died hours before they actually died. I don't know that this helps your telepathy argument any as my experiences these days are limited to being able to tell when others are near only, but I figure it wouldn't hurt to throw it in there.
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      Is this guy in your dreams someone you used to know??
      Nope, I've never met the guy before except for the time at the toy store, and that was a year after the dreams started. He's not a jerk all the time, he's just one of those means well but usually says the wrong thing at the wrong time kind of people, lol.

      In waking life i do sense he is thinking of me where ever i go, i even sense he might be in my city because my senses are powerfully taking over more
      I can understand what you mean here too. I feel like I can often sense Kurasawa nearby... not like in the same store nearby, but like we're only a couple miles apart, at least in the same town nearby rather than feeling like we're worlds apart. If you want to talk more, feel free to private message me We're not the only ones out here looking for people through our dreams, and it's always nice to hear when others are making progress. It's encouraging when you know someone else is going through the same hurdles you are, and even more so when someone else runs into a little success because then you know it's possible for you to succeed as well
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      I've had many experiences similar to yours in my dream life. I think there can definitely be valid psychic connections between people wherein information to be transmitted.
      On the other hand, one must always remember that almost everything inside the average person's dream world is a metaphorical projection of the psyche. Even then, psychic connections can be made inside that metaphorical landscape. The important thing to remember is that we must see the truth of any experience. The only way it seems to do that is to recognize that everything we are, psychic or not, is a dream.
      Once we understand this through experiences, we can recognize what is metaphor and what is real. This is because everything in this dream is energy so logically one would be able to decipher their own energy from that of another. So, when we see everything as a dream, we can simultaneously experience and interpret energy with which we are in contact. When this happens in a dream, you will know whether that person is your own projection or a for real psychic connection.
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      Well, one have to ask questions, if this guy is my own projection then why is it a male and not a female, and why is it someone i know and is familiar with long ago? You know what i mean.

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      yes, questioning reality is the basis of exploring the dream world
      I would normally say you should figure this out on your own but this forum is specifically for community and help so Ill share what my opinion is and perhaps it may shed some light on your experience.
      So, there are two questions:
      1. Why is it Male?
      2. Why is it someone I know?

      1. Everything in nature has polarity. Positive, negative, black and white; these things are called "opposites" which create a balance in which everything we are is made possible. I would suggest reading a book called Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung and a few of his cohorts. He elaborates in detail this exact topic. Inside everyone, there is the dominant gender which usually matches our physiology. Although there are those whose psychology has them at odds with their bodies. That said, there is the opposite of the dominant which in your case would be the male gender type. Carl Jung called these psychological representations Anima(female) and Animus(male). I have a textbook dream experience between my animus and anima in my dream journal called "My Beginning--My Battle of Self". In many cases, these DCs can take on the appearance of someone in your life who represents what the animus is in your mind.
      Anyways, your mind can easily create a DC who is male, the question is like you said "Why"? Honestly, whether it is a telepathic connection or not, I couldn't tell you because its just too personal to one's mind. I could be your best friend and still have no idea, thats how unique our own psychic/dream worlds are. Perhaps I can give you a couple questions I have used...Do they know more than they should? Are they acting out of character? What is their purpose? Where are they leading my feelings? What do I want from them?
      Asking any number of questions to simply flesh out the experience in your mind is helpful. The important thing in my view is to accept whatever is there with a sense of poise and rationality(panic at the disco).
      2. It is someone you know because you know them. Your mind uses per-existing information to create the images in dream.

      Lets for a moment assume this is a psychic connection. Ask all the same questions that pop into your brain. Rational questions: Why is there contact? Did something happen to trigger this? What are they trying to tell me? How does the experience feel? Is this the same person I knew?
      and on and on and on...questions are simply different perspectives your mind can assume to gather information. Its one of our most powerful tools of the imagination.

      After reading your DJ entries, I would suggest asking this "presence" in your dreams a few questions. You seem to have a substantial amount of dream awareness so this may be one way to explore it further.
      Lastly, be careful not to assume anything. I have had many dreams about my first girlfriend and even considered we might be sharing dreams. It is definitely possible I think but you must be self aware enough to know the difference otherwise you will be sucked into a downward spiral of fantasy.. *speaking from personal experience*...
      Btw, I enjoyed your DJ a lot, you have a very rich dream experience. Take a look at my DJ and see what I mean by anima and animus, it might give some more context and thats always a good thing.

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      It is definitely possible I think but you must be self aware enough to know the difference otherwise you will be sucked into a downward spiral of fantasy.. *speaking from personal experience*...
      <--- That's the single thing I worry most about. How much interest is too much interest? At what point do you stop being fascinated by a dream, the possibilities of it being real and become crazy and obsessed and build your life around something that may not exist? I try to keep all talk and thoughts of Kurasawa limited to dream views and my dreams. I try not to let the dreams play any real role in my daily life. I don't even talk about them to my family, so they have no clue about any of it to avoid such things. Still, I find myself scanning big crowds every now and then wondering if I might see someone who looks like him in the crowd, so I can't keep the thoughts completely from my mind in waking life. :/ I'm definitely going to read your Dream Journal Chimp.
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      All the questions i ask, all leads back to telepathy and telepathic situations i have with this person. Is he the same person as i knew? does he act out of character? well all i know he acts the same before i left or saw him.
      What do i want from him? question is what do we want from each other? yet again this leads back to the telepathic situation we both have.
      I wish i could ask him questions in the dream but seems like whenever we meet we both just become too over excited to speak words, and we both all know is that we can read each others mind, this actually is a bit hard to do because we are used to mind reading atm. It's been since the beach dream i last sensed him, i'm still waiting for the next time we meet again, and i think he knows this so he's backing away now, he might be timid about speaking in dreams. I used to have him in my dreams like every 2-3 days.
      But he knows he can't back away for long, because this happened before that he tried stopping for a few weeks coming in my dreams. All we know it can't be avoided, only because of this strong telepathic waves.
      I am honored to know that my DJ's sound great to some readers, i do love to specifically write my dreams as if i am still in them while i write, usually when i have very vivid dreams, the visions usually still carry around in my mind the whole day after i awake.
      So all i know this is very serious telepathic dreams/waking life. It's been over 7 yrs, so i know the routine basically.
      Due to him actually avoiding communing in my dreams like 3 days away absent i am becoming in a very bad mood in waking life, i don't know if this is me or actually i am getting these telepathic emotions from him, who knows i might also be an empath.
      As he is avoiding to commune in dreams, it still doesn't stop there, there still is the telepathic senses still working, i feel the waves growing still after every absence of dreams and i sense him trying to avoid telepathic communication as well, but in time this wall is going to break, but not from me, there is indeed a very strong energy between us, i also try to avoid certain times, but waves continue to grow. It's very unexplainable. I do keep this between myself, but when it comes to forums like these i got to tell my story because this is actually never ending and unavoidable.
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      By the way, if anyone wants to know how it feels like being in telepathic mode? It's like your a zombie, and hypnotized state.

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      Mydera, Ive been reading some of your dj today and that is some cool shit!
      And thanks to both of you for reading mine, I'm still somewhat new to using a journal online but its getting easier.
      In other news, I wanna say one more thing about telepathic/psychic experiences. Personally, I don't doubt they happen or how powerful it can be; however, its important I think not to underestimate one's unconscious.
      The best thing to do at this point in my mind would be to explore these people further. At least in my experience, I assume I know her so it made it more real than real. Im happy this thread was started because I posted something quite similar to this just the other day(i know i talk about my shit a lot). anyway, this is the link: KraSay dgreem
      It seems we are in a similar boat in my mind. I believe I will try to further my interaction with this person "ann" in my dream in the coming nights. And ill be posting more dreams me think as well...

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      I believe I will try to further my interaction with this person "ann" in my dream in the coming nights. And ill be posting more dreams me think as well..
      I think searching for answers in your dream is definitely the best way to go about this. In my case I can only look for answers in dreams, but I think even if you know the person your seeing, asking them through dreams is the best and least humiliating way to find out if they are real or not. Most people can't remember their dreams, so even if you did see her in the dream she may not remember it. Looking for her in dreams, then having a set of questions to ask to try and determine if she's really ann or just a DC is a good plan. I have a bunch of questions to ask Kurasawa, and I keep them written down in a notebook with the rest of my dream goals and try to look over them every few days to keep them fresh in my mind. It's really hard not to get too excited and forget to ask questions, so it may take a while. You could ask questions like, "are you a dream character or are you real?" or something. I've only managed to not get too excited and wake up once (and that was the other night) but I couldn't remember the most important questions "are you a DC?" instead I just asked where we were, lol. I'm glad my dj was entertaining. I'm going to friend you and keep a watch on your dream journal for sure It's nice to read about others in similar boats and their progress
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      Well today i had a dream, i really am not sure if it was him in my dream, i really hate it when im in non-lucid dream and can't recon the face and or picture of the person, but i was having fun and sharing a unique slushy with the dude, but in real life i don't have guy friends i usually don't make friends with dudes maybe because ever since i lost contact with him i started being elusive towards guys for friendship.
      But anyways in the dream i did felt well and comfortable around this person, so it could've been him at that time but my dang dream decided to blur this persons features which i really hate! We were both talking as if we last spoke was yesterday.

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      Interesting question, thought the wording left we wondering what it was per se that you were wondering about.
      However, I can say that I have on multiple occasions while still awake interacted with a friend of mine within her dreams. That is to say, she would fall asleep or would be hypnotized, and I would be able to see in my mind what she was dreaming and even affect it and insert myself or other things directly into the dream.
      Kind of playing God with her dreams, but she's okay with it.
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      Try to imagine a life without timekeeping. You probably canít. You know the month, the year, the day of the week; you have a schedule, a calendar... Yet all around you, timekeeping is ignored. Birds are not late. A dog does not check its watch. Deer do not fret over passing birthdays. Man alone measures time. Man alone chimes the hour. And, because of this, man alone suffers a paralyzing fear that no other creature endures.
      A fear of time running out.

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      Interesting, Signet.
      But these past few days, been having trouble with sleeping i don't know why, maybe this whole telepathic thing is getting way stronger been having shorter dreams, and quick.
      Last dream was he was playing hide and seek with me basically
      I posted a DJ for this^
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      Here is some more helpful information about anima/animus imagery and its meaning according to carl jung, my personal idol.

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      Anima/Animus

      Symbolism in Dreams and Narratives: a peer figure of the opposite sex to the ego-bearer to whom he/she has a strong and compelling tie or bond (often a lover, brother/sister, soul-mate). Jung said that the animus is more likely to be personified by multiple male figures, while the anima is frequently a single female.

      I continue to see the same woman, although sometimes it manifests as an ex-girlfriend.


      It is interesting to note that, at least in my experience I wanted them to be real. This however can be counterproductive to the psychological process of individuation carl jung describes. Its ironic, because you must accept what seems to be reality as a dream in order to see the reality of the dream. CRAZAY!
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      However, I can say that I have on multiple occasions while still awake interacted with a friend of mine within her dreams. That is to say, she would fall asleep or would be hypnotized, and I would be able to see in my mind what she was dreaming and even affect it and insert myself or other things directly into the dream.
      Kind of playing God with her dreams, but she's okay with it.
      That's pretty cool It makes me wonder if dreams aren't the only ways all of us could find the people and answers we're looking for. It would be really cool to be able to give the other person a time and place to meet us and see if they really came, but at the same time how do you tell if your actually in someone's dream or if your just imagining things if you can't confirm it with that person, if they even exist. Were you able to do this with other people or only your good friend? And did you have to be close for it to work? This reminds me of a study I read where people focusing on art in one room actually influenced people dreaming in a nearby room.

      Thanks for the links Chimp!
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      no prob!
      Something I just thought of that might help is information on shared dreaming. There are tons of threads on here about dream sharing, how it works, and pretty much anything to do with dream world interactions.

      Here's just a couple threads that are very informative on the topic...

      fairly straight forward approach

      OMG A SHITLOAD OF INFO

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      OMG A SHITLOAD OF INFO
      I spent several days reading through Waking Nomads FAQ and reading the experiences he and raven had. They are truly awesome and inspirational! Never read that first tutorial though so I'll check it out as well
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      Updated DJ, and scary too, but ready for it.

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