How to not let yourself move right after waking up in the morning for OOBE/AP?

**PhoenixAzul** · 04-10-2018 02:05 PM

Hey, do any of you guys know how to remember right away to not move after waking up in the morning? I need to do this for Bedeekin's OOBE/AP Method.

**slash112** · 04-10-2018 06:08 PM

Ah yes, that's something we also have to train ourselves to do when we do the lucid dreaming method known as "DEILD (Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream)".

Anyways, this my recommendation:

In the morning when you wake up, if you move at all, the moment you realize that you were supposed to be staying still, lie back down. If you want, say in your mind something like, "Dammit I need to stay still when I wake up!"
Every morning, do this. Notice that you get quicker and quicker at realizing then lying back down.
Eventually, you will have built up so much morning awareness that you will immediately remember to stay still when you wake up.

Also, welcome to DV!

**PhoenixAzul** · 04-11-2018 10:11 AM

Awesome. Thanks for the both of that. I guess it would be more useful if you use your desired technique even if you moved a little bit (?).

**slash112** · 04-11-2018 12:25 PM

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that actually. When you lie back down, just continue with the technique as if you did stay still.
The technique still might succeed. And even if it doesn't, it will help enforce morning awareness and help tell your unconscious mind that it's important to stay still.

**snoop** · 04-17-2018 07:17 PM

I'd look into practicing DEILD, Dream-Exit Lucid Dreaming. If you achieve a DILD or some other induction method but happen to wake up, if you focus your efforts on chaining lucid dreams together, I feel the skill kind of just starts developing on its own... or at least it did for me. Typically if I get one of those really short, 5 minute DILDs (which typically happens as I'm nearing the end of a REM Cycle because it's when my otherwise bizarre and incoherent dreams begin to develop a bit of structure and coherence), upon the dreams end and waking up, I actually exit the dream into hypnopompic Sleep Paralysis/REM Atonia (feeling the vibrations and all).

The benefit to that happening is that I don't even have to try to keep from moving or opening my eyes, because I'm waking up already paralyzed and, what's more, already conscious and knowing not to move or open my eyes. From there it is as simple as visualizing the dream I was just in or a vivid dream I can easily recall from the past and I wind up making it into another dream. For you, instead of trying to enter a dream, try OOBE/AP instead. Although, I might wait to start trying that until after you get some success with DEILD so you develop the skill and know-how first.