I have heard about it but that's about it. |
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I was wondering can you be in a lucid dream and meditate or relax and go in astral project? I saw a artical on the internet that you could. But have any of you done it? |
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I have heard about it but that's about it. |
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You can. I would do this by erasing part of the scene and picturing something like a worm hole or space/time rift as seeen in sci-fi movies. Know in your heart that it will take you beyond the edges of your own inner self and move into it. The feeling should be as if you are going so deep into yourself that you reach the center and keep going, untill you have reach a new place, beyond the confines of your mind. |
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sivason How do you know that you have astral projected than just created another lucid dream? I know the vibration stuff but do you actually feel that when your already in a lucid dream and go to astral projection. |
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I am sure what Gab says about vibrations is true, but I do not feel any vibrations myself. I suppose there is little proof, even too myself, that I actually go to astral realms, but I am convinced. |
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Yes. In the most stable area I am familiar with, there is a large city and it is extreamly stable. One example is that it has real gravity. No one there flys around much. They skate along the ground if they are in a hurry. They also use some form of vehicle. I have never opperated one of them, but have ridden inside some. My brain will fill in the pictures with images familiar to me. When I am allowed near one of the vbehicles, my brain imposes the image of a car or train. If my world had only wagons, then I would probably see it as a wagon. I could not make the vehiclee disappear, could not move through the vehicle and so on, because it has a real aspect of its own. |
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I thought AP of what i heard is spiritual and real, You would sperate from physical to spirit. But i think it is just conscious deep within. |
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Things in AP can be disembodied. It is in a sense your spirit traveling, but I think astral stuff is only spiritual if you attempt to get that out of it. The astral is not by itself good or spiritual, it is more like the ocean, it just is. Wicked and stupid things exist in places, and wonderful spiritual things can exist to. I am not sure how much spiritual/goodness based stuff I have learned fromit or the few who have taught me while there. I have learned amazing things about energy and controling my mind, which have helped unbelievably with lucid dreaming and meditations. |
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Sivason, what is the purpose of the city/s you describing? Who lives there? |
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Well, the first thing i need to make clear iis that I can not be sure I am interprating everything right. It is so strange for me, compared to normal earthly life, that I am kind of like a person in a strange country who does not speak the langue.I imagine it is pretty foolish to think you can truely understand and be certain of starnge things like this. With that said, here is how I understand it. |
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That is really cool in a weird way. Do you have a guide? Many people i hear when they get out of their body someone is there like a guide. Do you have that silver rope attached too you to? Have you ever be attacked? Sorry for all the questions its just something i'm interested in. |
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I did my first AP stuff in 1985 with no guide and ended up pretty frightened and weirded out. I was eventually able to attract the attention of a dream guide from the astral city, who trained me for years before I was allowed to enter it. The first years were all in tiny enviroments where I could not run amuck. |
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^^ Oops! Just read your last post, Sivason, and it looks like you won't even agree with my last bit about attacks! |
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That's funny, I got a bit of a smile out that contrast. |
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sivason, i have one question for you, how do you get the the stable areas? what do you focus on, and what do you feel when attempting to go? and, no, i am not going to debate whether or not your AP experiences are real, i know they are. |
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Truely I suck at it! My best bet it to be brought there by one of the few enties I met through knowing my first dream guide. |
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Well thank you for answering full detail. This just makes me want to AP Faster lol. never done it but trying |
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I've read in two different books that in a lucid dream you can tell yourself to return to the physical body and have an obe. Anyone else believe this? I think I've done it once but I'm not sure if it was a dream or not. |
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Considering how easy it is to astrally project yourself when your in any state (awake or asleep) I would say that you are already AP'ing when your interacting with others in dreams. Most people aren't even aware that they are doing it when they're awake, let alone asleep. Welcome to the Lucid Dreaming site, where most people are, and strive to reach farther. |
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