Tactics for triggering sleep paralysis: Sleeping on your back. Take a nap after being sleep deprived or jet-lagged. Keep an erratic sleep pattern. Maximize REM rebound by waking up 2 hours before normal and then nap. Caffeine before bed helps too. |
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I know you don't need to reach SP to do WILD. And I didn't want to put this down by where all the AP stuff is cause this can go here or there and this would get seen more here. I dont want to reach SP cause I want to do wild. I want to reach it for the experience and Go OBE. Really,It seems for me using the SP method go go OBE is the best way (That may be the only way IDK) So is there any simple method that has a high success rate? Iv tried Guided meditation 6 or so times. Iv tried some of the popular WILD methods and nothing is working. |
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Tactics for triggering sleep paralysis: Sleeping on your back. Take a nap after being sleep deprived or jet-lagged. Keep an erratic sleep pattern. Maximize REM rebound by waking up 2 hours before normal and then nap. Caffeine before bed helps too. |
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SP happens randomly only once of twice in peoples lifetimes. If you have a condition called isolated sleep paralysis, you may get it more than that. If you're wondering if you have it or not, you probably don't, because SP would have been hitting you randomly all your life if you did. |
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SP is not possible to induce, it's a rare sleep disorder that only small number of people ever experience, i very highly suggest to not aim for it. http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html |
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If you fall asleep and are in nREM and then picture yourself moving free of your body, that is a form of WILD, not SP. The body dopes itself up to keep you from moving and it feels weird. That is just being aware in nREM but is not SP if you can move when you truely want to. If it was true SP then someone yelling fire would not cause you to wake up and look a round. |
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What is nRem? Im not informed of alot of the terms on DV. Also if nRem is just regular Rem sleep (Which it prob isn't) wouldn't I have to be lucid to picture myself moving? Also Iv not the imagery where you imagine your self rolling out. IT dosent work on me. I cant Imagine things clearly at all. |
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nREM is any stage of sleep prior to REM. You can reach the first stage of nREM just by relaxing and letting your body fall naturally to sleep. If you manage this, then you will likely feel weird things and see weird things, including OBE type experiences. Many will argue OBE is nothing more than a WILD taking place in nREM. Wether it is real mystical stuff or a WILD that takes place in nREM the method is the same. That is it is one form of WILD. You can reach a place where casual attempts to move only result in dream imagery of you moving your dream body. However if someone yelled 'fire' you would wake up and move. In SP the person may try very hard to move their real body and they can not. This may go on even after they manage to pry their eyes open. So it is 2 different things. |
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I have two questions. Do I litterly just lay there. (Iv done that before just focusing on my breath and nothing happend in a time period of an hour) Also when do I know I can try to separate from my Physical body,and how. when Im ready do I just do the same as if Im raising my regular arm? |
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I think sleep paralysis can be induced in many people. I agree with everyone who says not to try though. |
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Well, teaching you to have OBE is just as complex as teaching you to WILD. It requires the ability to deeply relax AND maintain awareness DESPITE falling asleep. You do not just lay there, you go through the steps of a WILD, or another way of looking at it, is you get caught up in a high end meditation, so deep that you begin to loose bodily sensation. |
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Last edited by Shalashaska; 07-30-2013 at 03:04 AM.
I can go into a very deep meditation alot of the time. I was very VERY deep into relaxation last night. I had a weird feeling,I was laying down on my back,hands to my side. But it felt like my left and right hands and feet where switched and that they where straight out (Hands out and legs like I was doing the splits) I was amazed. I focused on the feeling,it felt just as if they where really in that position. then........I swallowed. The sensation went away,its as if it all got reset. I have anther question,can you swallow while your trying to WILD? I have so much spit getting created in my mouth its as if I will drown if I dont swallow. Also Iv only ever had 4 or 5 LD's and none of them where induced. They where all DILD and random. So should I work on LD's before I start trying to AP and have OBE's? |
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(two posts up)Sure, I bet if you have SP as a natural condition, THEN you could figure out how to triggure it. I am not sure why you would want to,,, but hey, we all need something to fill or time and attention. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 07-30-2013 at 03:13 AM.
"There is a whole class offered in WILD by Sageous, and a good tutorial." Can you link me to it? And I dont have any method on how to swallow without thikning about it. I saw a good tut on here on how to easily distract your seft while your body falls asleep (Think about taste's,smell's,texture's.) The poster said it takes you away from thinking what will happen and trying to force it. |
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but hey, we all need something to fill our time and attention? This is a Dream forum. |
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However you want to do it man. It's all up to you. With me, SP just happened to come around and smack me in the face first. It was my introduction to all this beautiful madness. Lucid Dreams are easier to get the hang of. Considering Sleep Paralysis is apparently IMPOSSIBLE to do on your own |
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Last edited by Shalashaska; 07-30-2013 at 04:19 AM.
I think Sivason should knock away, just as you should push back where you think he's being unreasonable. Of course he doesn't fully understand it, nobody does. But that doesn't mean he doesn't understand anything about it at all, or doesn't have anything useful to contribute. Its not as if he has no experience with these sorts of things, or has less experience than you do. |
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Last edited by shadowofwind; 07-30-2013 at 05:01 AM. Reason: typo
What do you mean by it just smacked you in the face AND saying you do not have it as a natural condition? You say AFTER you experienced it, then you researched it. That sounds like it naturally happened to you, so you do have it as a past medical history, or am I missing something. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 07-30-2013 at 04:49 PM.
Sleep paralysis doesn't seem to me to be fairly characterized as a 'rare sleep disorder' or 'medical condition' any more than lucid dreaming is a sleep disorder or 'medical condition'. When a person is lucid dreaming in a first-person-shooter kind of way, they're using their imagination to move around their visual and tactile mental representation of their body, which is how they move their body while awake. While they're doing that, their body is not moving. If they were aware of this, in other words if they were more lucid in the direction of what their body is doing, rather than being completely immersed in their dream fantasy, then that would be sleep paralysis. Just as astral projection is a type of lucid dream, sleep paralysis seems to me to be a type of lucid dream. A person could argue that they're not really 'dreaming' because of their degree of lucidity, and what they're lucid about, but then that argument applies to other types of lucid dreams also, and becomes a matter of semantics. |
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Give it up Sivason. The SP myth is here to stay, in spite of DV's recent heroic efforts to curb the misinformation parade. Isn't this just one of three new threads specifically about SP? Face it, the mythology has won, to the detriment of many a newbie trying to LD. Since I'm not a moderator I can say screw it, I'm throwing in the towel... let 'em have their SP, if it makes em happy. |
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Last edited by Sageous; 07-30-2013 at 07:06 PM.
Sageous and Sivason, |
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I believe you, and if you're wrong I haven't seen that presented in a way that I understand. |
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