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      Quote Originally Posted by Queen Zukin View Post
      Your map looks great! I'd love to live in that city, though maybe not so close to the "plane of death."

      That's from that dream I told you about with the mental hospital and the girl who died and the dog... It's from a long time ago so I'm not sure if it should be on my map, but I distinctly remember it being pretty close to my house. Which is kinda creepy...
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      Quote Originally Posted by KestrelKat View Post
      That's from that dream I told you about with the mental hospital and the girl who died and the dog... It's from a long time ago so I'm not sure if it should be on my map, but I distinctly remember it being pretty close to my house. Which is kinda creepy...
      Makes sense to me. We live in the "valley of the shadow of death" as David says.

      I have a few places down, I am gonna update my map once a week (at most) I have summaries written for all my dreams and about where they are.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
      Makes sense to me. We live in the "valley of the shadow of death" as David says.

      I have a few places down, I am gonna update my map once a week (at most) I have summaries written for all my dreams and about where they are.
      (I had to google that phrase, just so you know)
      Wow, I find that kinda... I don't even know the word I'm looking for. Not quite eerie, not quite comforting, not quite strange, but a mixture of the three, plus some other odd feelings.

      And that's mostly because I have never read the Bible, aside from a few passages. I would be interested to know if everyone has a sort of "Valley of the shadow of death" on their dream maps, and what it would represent in their subconscious.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KestrelKat View Post
      (I had to google that phrase, just so you know)
      Wow, I find that kinda... I don't even know the word I'm looking for. Not quite eerie, not quite comforting, not quite strange, but a mixture of the three, plus some other odd feelings.

      And that's mostly because I have never read the Bible, aside from a few passages. I would be interested to know if everyone has a sort of "Valley of the shadow of death" on their dream maps, and what it would represent in their subconscious.
      Yes, it is kind of eerie. The idea is that this earth is the valley of the shadow of death, which should be kind of scary, but it goes on to say that I will fear no evil because you are with me. Christians believe in a slightly darker world than other people, and that the only light is from God.

      Getting away from spiritual thoughts... Maybe.
      I think that most people have had some form of very evil place in their dreams if they have enough. If you look at any theories on dreams, it makes sense that you could find evil (inner self, experiences, memories, or whatever). In my experience just the feeling of evil will make an entire place seem evil in a dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
      Yes, it is kind of eerie. The idea is that this earth is the valley of the shadow of death, which should be kind of scary, but it goes on to say that I will fear no evil because you are with me. Christians believe in a slightly darker world than other people, and that the only light is from God.

      Getting away from spiritual thoughts... Maybe.
      I think that most people have had some form of very evil place in their dreams if they have enough. If you look at any theories on dreams, it makes sense that you could find evil (inner self, experiences, memories, or whatever). In my experience just the feeling of evil will make an entire place seem evil in a dream.
      Yes, I totally agree with that last part; almost all of my dreams have moments of nightmarish fear, and so most of the places on my map have associations with fear at some point or another. Even my home has felt evil in some of my dreams.

      But, not all Christians see the world that way Some of the Protestant religions like Quakerism have much more peace- and light-based views of the world. It's more that the light is within us all at all times; rather than Him being with us in dark places, he is us, and therefor the light comes from us all, making all places filled with light (that's me stretching it, I think) But then again, that's the only one I know anything about, really, so I don't know if that's unique within Christianity?

      Quote Originally Posted by LolaTheLoner View Post
      Finally got around to doodling my map in paint. I was going to hand draw it, but I won't have access to a scanner until Monday so I figured this would work just as well and allow for more ease in updating it when the time comes.

      http://oi58.tinypic.com/35be93k.jpg

      Speaking of inherently evil places in dreams, there is one on my map as well.
      I also noticed it's quite close to your "Home" as well!
      This is interesting!
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      Quote Originally Posted by KestrelKat View Post
      Yes, I totally agree with that last part; almost all of my dreams have moments of nightmarish fear, and so most of the places on my map have associations with fear at some point or another. Even my home has felt evil in some of my dreams.

      But, not all Christians see the world that way Some of the Protestant religions like Quakerism have much more peace- and light-based views of the world. It's more that the light is within us all at all times; rather than Him being with us in dark places, he is us, and therefor the light comes from us all, making all places filled with light (that's me stretching it, I think) But then again, that's the only one I know anything about, really, so I don't know if that's unique within Christianity?
      I don't know if it is unique to Christians. I mostly know about Christians. Jesus says "you are the light of the world" when talking about people that are following him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
      I don't know if it is unique to Christians. I mostly know about Christians. Jesus says "you are the light of the world" when talking about people that are following him.
      Right, and Quakers only modify it to include all of humanity, even those who don't follow him (and, maybe this is me personally, but all living things, not only those that are human). That's why we're so against war and violence in general.
      I know most about Quakers, and second most probably about Catholicism because I have quite a few Catholic friends.
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      Quote Originally Posted by KestrelKat View Post
      I also noticed it's quite close to your "Home" as well!
      This is interesting!
      It is, just right down the street. I don't think I've had a single dream of that area, lucid or not, where I haven't sensed or directly encountered something really evil. So in a way it is a sort of "shadow of the valley of death" type thing. Whether or not it comes from my expectation that it will be evil or from some deep subconscious thing is hard to say. I only consciously expected evil to appear in my most recent lucid dream of the area. It's strange. I have so many jumbled up memories from dreams that went wrong there, including false memories that came to me during non-lucids.

      I agree, it would definitely be interesting to watch out for places like this on other people's maps!
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      Quote Originally Posted by LolaTheLoner View Post
      It is, just right down the street. I don't think I've had a single dream of that area, lucid or not, where I haven't sensed or directly encountered something really evil. So in a way it is a sort of "shadow of the valley of death" type thing. Whether or not it comes from my expectation that it will be evil or from some deep subconscious thing is hard to say. I only consciously expected evil to appear in my most recent lucid dream of the area. It's strange. I have so many jumbled up memories from dreams that went wrong there, including false memories that came to me during non-lucids.

      I agree, it would definitely be interesting to watch out for places like this on other people's maps!
      My evil place was also basically down the road from my home. I had been flying in that dream, and it was all sunshiny bright happy, until I got there. Then it started to snow heavily and a little girl got lost and died because I wasn't watching her well enough.
      I've only been there once in my dreams, as far as I'm aware, though. So I don't have anything to compare it with :/
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