Thread: OBE from the hypnagogic sensations stage!!

I haven't read through the full thread, maybe I should do this? It sounds fascinating what is being discussed. It usually is fascinating when Psionik starts making posts.

Imo, everything IS created within the mind. Each reality tunnel, especially in dreams is unique to this person. I believe there is only a limited amounts of absolute truths.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I haven't read through the full thread, maybe I should do this? It sounds fascinating what is being discussed. It usually is fascinating when Psionik starts making posts.

Imo, everything IS created within the mind. Each reality tunnel, especially in dreams is unique to this person. I believe there is only a limited amounts of absolute truths.

Fascinating? Really? When I read my posts I feel something like I have two faces. One is very rational, second one is spiritual. I try to maintain balance between them, but sometimes one overweights second one. When there is such settled mind as Powessy I tend to go into doubts. Because I myself have very strong visions while I do OBEs, sometimes even by WILDs and at the same time I try to ground myself and not to start believe blindly. He clearly has strong experiences. For him, they are real. He should take challenge and try and take chance in remote viewing challenge

Originally Posted by Psionik

Fascinating? Really? When I read my posts I feel something like I have two faces. One is very rational, second one is spiritual. I try to maintain balance between them, but sometimes one overweights second one. When there is such settled mind as Powessy I tend to go into doubts. Because I myself have very strong visions while I do OBEs, sometimes even by WILDs and at the same time I try to ground myself and not to start believe blindly. He clearly has strong experiences. For him, they are real. He should take challenge and try and take chance in remote viewing challenge

I want to try to explain this again. The soul is divided into two separate parts. The mind and then the higher mind. I will use the cherry example that was given to me from them. The cherry(lower soul), the stem(treemend, holo deck), inside of the treemend(the higher mind). The higher mind is the only thing that matters it is who and what you can become. There are allowed souls and then there are not allowed souls. An allowed soul will take around 15 reincarnations for the higher mind to become itself, to become solid and take a final shape. Once the higher mind becomes itself then you will become that person it becomes in every life time after this. The higher mind is what holds all your past life memories as they are stored in your personal records within the treemend. The higher mind lives in a virtual reality inside of the treemend trying to figure things out and understand things. They say" you need to become yourself many times inside of yourself to become yourself". When we die we will enter into our higher mind and become ourselves there, You will be allowed to stay there to figure yourself out but can not stay. The higher mind will remove your life memories and store them away, you will become nothing inside of yourself to do this. The higher mind will then tell you to leave and tell you that you need to become something again. The soul will then move on to be reborn, simplified not quite this easy.

The not allowed soul will enter into itself and will not be allowed to leave it will just become nothing inside of itself and the lights will go off.

Now when a person obes your definition and others, you separate from the body and enter into your treemend and into your higher mind, just ask VinceField he has already figured this part out. Now when I obe
I do not enter into my souls mind I can feel this point of separation and can just sit up in bed or do the things I do. I have had every form of astral in your head experience you can think of and some you can not.

You talked of remote viewing that has nothing to do with these experiences. If the higher mind can figure things out and can try to put the pieces together then it is possible to try and figure things out a sixth sense so to say. My obes are not anything special in the duration or experience any more then walking down the hall but to me they are as real as the world I stand in now, just light one skin suit. I just thought I would share this and see if any of this resonates with anyone else.

I don't understand why it is so bad to have in mind experiences I have been to so many different places and seen so many things not of this world. I have had experiences that have shown me answers to problems I was having within my higher mind about this world. Good experiences to you.

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