Thread: Mind Altering Substances

Whoh!
Fuggin' awesome!

...So.. not to dive back into the subject, but are IMs still okay?
And is it okay to TALK about drugs as long as we aren't sharing a lot of info.

I'm not trying to see how far I can stretch the line or anything. I'm just getting SOME idea of how far is too far.

And, thanks for being cool about it, Seeker, even if you did have to put your foot down.

It is your dog on drugs.

Puppy, "Drugs are bad, mmkay."

FIRST of all...that sort of looks like my dog when he was a puppy. It looks like a Shih-tzu. We used to call him a little e-wok. The second one looks like a Pekinese.

SECONDLY...guys...seriously...I don't want to have to move this thread to senseless banter or something mkay?

Basically this means...that some discussion of how drugs affect lucid dreaming is acceptable. For example...doing these drugs hurt your lucid ability...doing these drugs may enhance your ability to LD. These certain drugs may induce a lucid-like state...or an obe...etc.

However, no more posting recipes...no posting about growing/harvesting/etc. any sort of illegal drugs. And CERTAINLY no encouraging others to use or try any sort of drugs.

Talk about whatever you want within PMs...that is fine.

Now, I will be policing this thread very strictly...and if I find something out of line I'll just delete it...or edit out certain parts of it that are innapropriate. So continue to discuss...but that's my fair warning, so don't wonder what happened to your post.

Cheers guys. ^_^

You're right about the species, pekingnese is my favorite small dog. Can I explain how to use and prepare legal drugs, like salvia and harmala? That combination is just as powerful as DMT if done correctly.

Originally Posted by imaginefication

You're right about the species, pekingnese is my favorite small dog. Can I explain how to use and prepare legal drugs, like salvia and harmala? That combination is just as powerful as DMT if done correctly.[/b]

Isn't that like providing highly enriched uranium and Plutonium to a third world country?

We could merge the subjects. Drugs, and puppies. My two favorite things. Yahooooo!

I think Seeker doesn't want the forum closed down from someone getting ideas of using drugs from this site and then dieing or having an accident, filing a lawsuit. Just cause Salvia is legal doesn't stop people injuring themselves while tripping.

I have a question though. Is salvia legal in Canada? And if so can minors buy it, or is it restricted to over 18s. In australia it is illegal but I am going to Canada this year, but when I go over I will only be 17 years and 10/11months.

Salvia is deffinetly legal in Canada, and so are a few amazing plants that are not legal in the US, such as Iboga. The only place I know of that made salvia illegal is Australia.

Yup, how lucky I am to live in Australia, the one of few countries Salvia is illegal (sarcasm). Apart from the 'anti-drug tolerance' we practice over here, it's a good place. So yeah, cannot be bought by minors i'm assuming? Are there any amazing plants that can be bought by minors, legal in Canada? Iboga sounds really cool. Or even any good plants you know to be legal in Australia?

I'm really not all that big on salvia, myself.
It's fun, but only if you get really high.

Yeah, vendors don't sell to minors because it puts them and the legal status of the plants at risk. There are a few effective plants that I've seen on sites that sell to minors, like corydalis. Iboga is amazing, its been proven many times to be able to cure hard drug addiction while preventing withdrawal.

I know there a several species of Acacia that grow wild in Australia that contain large amounts of DMT, I don't know the legal status though.

I think low doses of Salvia are extremely unpleasent, I will only use Salvia if its a nearly pure extract, or in combination with harmala so that I will either be knocked directly into an LD or an OBE. Other than that I hate the effects.

..Glad someone else feels the same way.

well im going to give extracting dmt a go.

good luck!

Hmm... I read on Erowid that the common plant Coleus, if you eaten, can cause psychedelic effects and mild hallucinations. Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone tried it?

Its in the mint family which has plenty of psychoactive plants in it. I've never used it but I'll tell you what I've read. No one has identified the active drug in Coleus, but many agree it has effects. Apparently only the fresh leaves are active, the drug must degrade very fast or be very volatile. The average dose is about 60 hand sized leaves chewed and swallowed. Not surprisngly most people report nausea lasting 30 to 45 minutes, during the come on. The effects are compared to mushrooms, but with a shorter duration, usually only 2 hours. Some suspect the active drug is absorbed sublingually but I haven't seen any research or experiments to support this.

Considering its only active when fresh, you would need lots of live plants to get multiple doses. If I had plants growing nearby I would deffinetly try it, but it doesn't sound worth going out of my way for. I'd be willing to bet morning glory seeds are more effective, their deffinetly easier to get and less expensive. If you want a good method for consuming morning glories just message me.

And what exactly does this have to do with lucid dreaming guys? Careful...you might want to take it to PMs, k?

Originally Posted by Aquanina

And what exactly does this have to do with lucid dreaming guys? Careful...you might want to take it to PMs, k?
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Well, from reading the effects of Coleus, it can cause some pretty cool dreams. But I agree, anything about preperation of stuff like that should be left to PMs... don't wanna get in any troule with the law, no sirrreeee...

This plant is legal , should I keep legal plant info in pm's too?

Is it legal to ingest? I know Morning Glory seeds aren't.

Yup, there are no scheduled drugs in Coleus, actually no drug has been identified at all yet. I'm sure you know morning glories contain LSA, which is illegal without prescription, but is surprisngly only a schedule III drug. I will only post sources and preperations for plants that are legal to consume in the US.

Ooh. I remember coleus.
I tried eating it once, but it didn't do anything for me. But I didn't eat very much. I've read in a book called 'Plants of the Gods' about its properties though.

It's VERY PRETTY too, and easy to grow. You just have to pick the flowers off, to stimulate growth. I had a suncoleus that grew the size of a bush! I named him "Suncoleus: The dragon slayer!"

Did I ever mention I like flowers?

Plants of the Gods is a great read.

The dragon slayer?