Thread: Anyone else met the Night Stalkers and Dream Walkers?

Originally Posted by Lex16

I can only say this...IDIOT!!!BAKA!!!!MORON!!!!
For now I think this is enough on that.

Being a Night Stalker Hunter I would say you have made a very bad mistake...you will not be left alone now and they will keep coming after you until you manage to A: ban them from dreaming, B: handing them their ass on a silver platter, C: killing them, or my least favorite D: dying yourself.

You have no idea how many people that are either Night Stalkers or Dream Walkers are actually on this thread at this moment. God and I thought I had bravado when I walked into their camp, LOL!!!
You got guts, I like that and I hope you kick some serious ass but I warn you, the N.S are masters of causing pain you can't even begin to comprehend...but hell...there are so few dreamers that have the guts to stand up to them I will take my hat off to you.
Welcome to my war.

Someone emailed me yesterday and asked if I could explain a bit on the N.S and D.W's.
How much do you want to know?
I can give you two diaries with more or less 700 Lucid dream encounters with each of the factions, they are very Ying-Yang..,though Sanz is right in saying they are so called 'good' guys and 'bad' guys.
They are people just like you and me that dream the same way, they just formed gangs or as I like to call them, factions.
There are a few but only 3 major ones. The Night Stalkers: Lead by the 2nd devision and some Old lady that is really powerful.
The Dream Walkers: Controlled by the council of dreams (three old guys that are so weak!) and the Dream Master.
Then come the Rogues, the faction in which I place myself: They rule themselves...they do as they please and follow no one.
There are other lesser factions...like the Watchers but I don't know too much about them, hunted one once...they're beyond strange.
The factions are structured as thus: Night Stalkers have their female leader followed by their precious second devision, then the fighters below that that struggle for power.
Dream Walkers: Dream Master (and I give him too much credit then he deserves) followed by the Dream Council then the Squad leaders, trainers and then the recruits.
Rogues: Do as they please, no structure.

Is that all or would you guys like some names of the people I have met in the past 2 years...or perhaps some stories...I got plenty to tell...being a hunter.

Are you people for real? This is what you people believe? Jesus Christ. First time in this forum and I really want to know what drugs you guys are using. One thread some guy claims to meet gods and demons, another people are creating knifes out of "energy", next thread some guy is a hunter of magical Freddy Krugers. You're all batshit insane, I hate to break it to you.

I'm going to give you the best advice someone can give you. Go see a Psychologist or at the very least settle for a final fantasy game. At least there you can have your fantasy life without seeming like a schizophrenic who has been off his meds. Still probably won't help with getting laid, though.

In conclusion I dare all you elfs from the high kingdom of crazy land to use your "powers" against me.

They also have a strong evil presence about them that you can sense intuitively. The only true way to beat them is to turn them away from evil, fear and negativity and towards good, happiness and positivity. All you really have to do is think about the most pleasant fun time you have ever had. Recreate the feeling and once you feel that feeling, amplify it by concentrating on the feeling alone (note this is a good thing to do whether your being attacked or not). Remember the quote "there is nothing to fear but fear itself"?

Expecto... Patronum!!!!!

No, but seriously. This all interests me. I don't neccessarily scoff at or praise this stuff. I've seen enough wierd crap in my life to believe that the number of forces at work in thsi world are countless. At the same time, I'm grounded in logic and see alternate explanations to everything that would at first seem mystical brought up.

So, I ask for someone knowledgable on the subject who can take time out of thier days to do so to please PM me with their interpretations of answeres to a few questions.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Are you people for real? This is what you people believe? Jesus Christ. First time in this forum and I really want to know what drugs you guys are using. One thread some guy claims to meet gods and demons, another people are creating knifes out of "energy", next thread some guy is a hunter of magical Freddy Krugers. You're all batshit insane, I hate to break it to you.

I'm going to give you the best advice someone can give you. Go see a Psychologist or at the very least settle for a final fantasy game. At least there you can have your fantasy life without seeming like a schizophrenic who has been off his meds. Still probably won't help with getting laid, though.

In conclusion I dare all you elfs from the high kingdom of crazy land to use your "powers" against me.

I'll have to agree with this guy right here.
I thought about saying something like that in the Guy Meets Gods and Demons thread aswell..


Dreamviews is full of these people. We have the religious people, we have atheists, we have spiritual people. Then we have these Extremos Religious and Extremos Spiritual people.

A little while ago, some guy came here claiming he could go to bed and have a Lucid, then wake up without losing his lucid powers. He didn't post after that thread.

Then we have these guys, who think they can walk into other peoples minds while they sleep, forming very MMORPG-like guilds.

And we have the guys who come along and shout about the Law of Attraction, The Secret and such.

We have the highly religious people who come along and quote books en masse and randomly start flame wars because of a topic that has been discussed hundreds of times.

Then we have this recent guy who felt like going to Dreamviews to tell us about how he casually met a God and a Demon. Demons were angry, and imps were blown.

With all those people, why would ONE more, ONE person think that he would have any chance to be more right than all the others?

Seriously, if you have some knowledge that almost no-one believes in, try to consider, maybe my knowledge is really just a theory, that might not be right.
There are a gazzilion people like you on Dreamviews, who think they have the truth. Why are you right? Why are you right when all these others have failed?

Disclaimer: No offense intended, atleast not to everyone who was mentioned. And even then, it's more like just asking you to think, and not offensively meant.

Rantoff.

Originally Posted by Maeni

I'll have to agree with this guy right here.
I thought about saying something like that in the Guy Meets Gods and Demons thread aswell..


Dreamviews is full of these people. We have the religious people, we have atheists, we have spiritual people. Then we have these Extremos Religious and Extremos Spiritual people.

A little while ago, some guy came here claiming he could go to bed and have a Lucid, then wake up without losing his lucid powers. He didn't post after that thread.

Then we have these guys, who think they can walk into other peoples minds while they sleep, forming very MMORPG-like guilds.

And we have the guys who come along and shout about the Law of Attraction, The Secret and such.

We have the highly religious people who come along and quote books en masse and randomly start flame wars because of a topic that has been discussed hundreds of times.

Then we have this recent guy who felt like going to Dreamviews to tell us about how he casually met a God and a Demon. Demons were angry, and imps were blown.

With all those people, why would ONE more, ONE person think that he would have any chance to be more right than all the others?

Seriously, if you have some knowledge that almost no-one believes in, try to consider, maybe my knowledge is really just a theory, that might not be right.
There are a gazzilion people like you on Dreamviews, who think they have the truth. Why are you right? Why are you right when all these others have failed?

Disclaimer: No offense intended, atleast not to everyone who was mentioned. And even then, it's more like just asking you to think, and not offensively meant.

Rantoff.

you have a great point that many (and i do mean many) people should consider. i remember that guy who said he woke up one day and saw that he still had his lucid powers for awhile, i believe the reason why he didn't post afterwards is because he said he was only 14 and you have to be at least 15 to join, so he got banned. again, you have a great point, and hopefully some people get the message and at least think critically about their beliefs and why they have them, and reason out why they think they're right while others are wrong.

Originally Posted by ForgottenDream

you have a great point that many (and i do mean many) people should consider. i remember that guy who said he woke up one day and saw that he still had his lucid powers for awhile, i believe the reason why he didn't post afterwards is because he said he was only 14 and you have to be at least 15 to join, so he got banned. again, you have a great point, and hopefully some people get the message and at least think critically about their beliefs and why they have them, and reason out why they think they're right while others are wrong.

haha i wan't a link to that thread

I find it interesting that a collective of so many people who can lucid dream - an ability that is not understood in the least by the general public, let alone the scientific community - can so easily disregard advances in their own art. If you don't understand exactly what lucid dreaming is, or how it works, then how can you rule out or discredit the possibility of Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers?

The people posting in this thread have obviously had seperate experiences before meeting each other, here or otherwise. All of the experiences described here display the same symptoms. THINK, people!! Lucid dreamers who regularly maintain complete control over their environments suddenly encounter an adversary whom they CANNOT affect directly? That is not a normal, subconsciously generated character.

Unfortunately, I have one as yet unresolved conflict with the concept.

Although several here have said that they have the ability, no true member of any faction has yet revealed him/herself. (Please correct me if I am mistaken; I've only read the first 6 pages on this topic - it's LOOONG!) I suspect they prefer anonymity to protect themselves from the other factions, or prefer maintaining strict secrecy. The exception to this is the hunter who posted near the beginning of this thread, but as far as I know he has not spoken of meeting other Rogues, let alone dreamwalking himself. His adversaries came to him. A true Hunter would seek them out in their dreams, no?

To finalize:

I believe that this phenomena exists. However, to remove all doubt, I would have to be contacted by a Dream Walker or Night Stalker myself.

In the meantime, I encourage all of you (Sanz, Lex, etc.) to pm me and share your experiences and theories. However, this request is mainly intended for any Dream Walkers (or Night Stalkers) here on this forum. I solemnly pledge to maintain your secrecy and anonymity if you contact me. And if you find me in my dreams... so much the better.





I apologize for this post's extended longevity, but I needed to make it meaningful.

Originally Posted by Vanota

I find it interesting that a collective of so many people who can lucid dream - an ability that is not understood in the least by the general public, let alone the scientific community - can so easily disregard advances in their own art. If you don't understand exactly what lucid dreaming is, or how it works, then how can you rule out or discredit the possibility of Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers?

I find it odd that of all the people who can lucid dream, nobody ever tries to do this. They will do the most inane tasks, but never attempt anything serious. A few try now and then, but everyone gives up after a few tries. (Myself included )

Originally Posted by The Cusp

I find it odd that of all the people who can lucid dream, nobody ever tries to do this. They will do the most inane tasks, but never attempt anything serious. A few try now and then, but everyone gives up after a few tries. (Myself included )

I believe you will find my dedication to extend beyond that of those who give up after only a few attempts. With firm resolve and will, and a little imagination, the human mind can accomplish anything.

Im not really to sure about all of this, sounds like some roleplay stuff, i am however open minded and have got nothing to lose
Alot of people have probably tried calling you "Dream walkers" or
" Nightstalkers " out and challenging you etc, i simply ask you to introduce yourself to me in a dream and make yourself know, a freindly greeting.
Why not?

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Are you people for real? This is what you people believe? Jesus Christ. First time in this forum and I really want to know what drugs you guys are using. One thread some guy claims to meet gods and demons, another people are creating knifes out of "energy", next thread some guy is a hunter of magical Freddy Krugers. You're all batshit insane, I hate to break it to you.

I'm going to give you the best advice someone can give you. Go see a Psychologist or at the very least settle for a final fantasy game. At least there you can have your fantasy life without seeming like a schizophrenic who has been off his meds. Still probably won't help with getting laid, though.

In conclusion I dare all you elfs from the high kingdom of crazy land to use your "powers" against me.

Originally Posted by Maeni

I'll have to agree with this guy right here.
I thought about saying something like that in the Guy Meets Gods and Demons thread aswell..


Dreamviews is full of these people. We have the religious people, we have atheists, we have spiritual people. Then we have these Extremos Religious and Extremos Spiritual people.

A little while ago, some guy came here claiming he could go to bed and have a Lucid, then wake up without losing his lucid powers. He didn't post after that thread.

Then we have these guys, who think they can walk into other peoples minds while they sleep, forming very MMORPG-like guilds.

And we have the guys who come along and shout about the Law of Attraction, The Secret and such.

We have the highly religious people who come along and quote books en masse and randomly start flame wars because of a topic that has been discussed hundreds of times.

Then we have this recent guy who felt like going to Dreamviews to tell us about how he casually met a God and a Demon. Demons were angry, and imps were blown.

With all those people, why would ONE more, ONE person think that he would have any chance to be more right than all the others?

Seriously, if you have some knowledge that almost no-one believes in, try to consider, maybe my knowledge is really just a theory, that might not be right.
There are a gazzilion people like you on Dreamviews, who think they have the truth. Why are you right? Why are you right when all these others have failed?

Disclaimer: No offense intended, atleast not to everyone who was mentioned. And even then, it's more like just asking you to think, and not offensively meant.

Rantoff.

FINALLY, LOGICAL PEOPLE IN THE BEYOND DREAMING SUBFORUM!

Originally Posted by Vanota

Although several here have said that they have the ability, no true member of any faction has yet revealed him/herself. (Please correct me if I am mistaken; I've only read the first 6 pages on this topic - it's LOOONG!)

You are almost correct, no one except some guy who later said he was kidding has said that they are a Dream Walker or Night Stalker. There have been several people who have said that they can dreamshare, however. I think it was at about page 5, but im too lazy to check.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

FINALLY, LOGICAL PEOPLE IN THE BEYOND DREAMING SUBFORUM!

If you don't believe in the things said in this forum, Don't get on this forum. The rules clearly state that this forum is for belivers only

Originally Posted by Vanota

I apologize for this post's extended longevity, but I needed to make it meaningful.

Extended partially by the use of redundant repetition.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Are you people for real? This is what you people believe? Jesus Christ. First time in this forum and I really want to know what drugs you guys are using. One thread some guy claims to meet gods and demons, another people are creating knifes out of "energy", next thread some guy is a hunter of magical Freddy Krugers. You're all batshit insane, I hate to break it to you.

I'm going to give you the best advice someone can give you. Go see a Psychologist or at the very least settle for a final fantasy game. At least there you can have your fantasy life without seeming like a schizophrenic who has been off his meds. Still probably won't help with getting laid, though.

In conclusion I dare all you elfs from the high kingdom of crazy land to use your "powers" against me.

I've wanted to say the same thing exactly, but I tend not to be an asshole and just try to convince people that they're logic is as far from logic as humanly possible. Plus if that's all you've seen you better get the hell out of the Beyond Dreaming section or you probably won't be seeing any more posts of any type on this forum.

Originally Posted by Vanota

I find it interesting that a collective of so many people who can lucid dream - an ability that is not understood in the least by the general public, let alone the scientific community - can so easily disregard advances in their own art. If you don't understand exactly what lucid dreaming is, or how it works, then how can you rule out or discredit the possibility of Dream Walkers and Night Stalkers?

The people posting in this thread have obviously had seperate experiences before meeting each other, here or otherwise. All of the experiences described here display the same symptoms. THINK, people!! Lucid dreamers who regularly maintain complete control over their environments suddenly encounter an adversary whom they CANNOT affect directly? That is not a normal, subconsciously generated character.

Unfortunately, I have one as yet unresolved conflict with the concept.

Although several here have said that they have the ability, no true member of any faction has yet revealed him/herself. (Please correct me if I am mistaken; I've only read the first 6 pages on this topic - it's LOOONG!) I suspect they prefer anonymity to protect themselves from the other factions, or prefer maintaining strict secrecy. The exception to this is the hunter who posted near the beginning of this thread, but as far as I know he has not spoken of meeting other Rogues, let alone dreamwalking himself. His adversaries came to him. A true Hunter would seek them out in their dreams, no?

To finalize:

I believe that this phenomena exists. However, to remove all doubt, I would have to be contacted by a Dream Walker or Night Stalker myself.

In the meantime, I encourage all of you (Sanz, Lex, etc.) to pm me and share your experiences and theories. However, this request is mainly intended for any Dream Walkers (or Night Stalkers) here on this forum. I solemnly pledge to maintain your secrecy and anonymity if you contact me. And if you find me in my dreams... so much the better.





I apologize for this post's extended longevity, but I needed to make it meaningful.

So.... you believe in it even though you KNOW you have proof that it's not real? You may as well admit that you believe in it.
The reason everybody's experiences are similar is because they've all read about people experiences with NS/DS.
Also we do understand LD'ing, at least a bit. It's dreaming normally but you become aware that you're dreaming and so your conscious brain 'wakes up' so to speak. Does anybody experience shared dreams in normal dreams? In all of the probably thousands of dreams you've had with your friends or family in them, has any of your family or friends said they had the exact same dream? (If you tell them the dream of course).
No. So why should it be any different just because you're lucid.

Whether or not it's plausible, it's still interesting isn't it? I believe that dreams are all in our own heads as much as the next eprson, but with s large number of people beleiving in this DW/NS thing it's certainly captivating.

Originally Posted by tommo

Does anybody experience shared dreams in normal dreams? In all of the probably thousands of dreams you've had with your friends or family in them, has any of your family or friends said they had the exact same dream? (If you tell them the dream of course).

Yes. On several occasions.

I had a 'shared dream' last night and I was lucid and so was my dad and so I said to him "I think this is a shared dream" and he said "nah its probably just (bla bla bla something)" and I said "I'll ask you tomorrow if you remember this dream".

So I asked him just before "do you remember any of your dreams last night?"
He says "Why? do you think we shared a dream?" or something like that
I said "Why do you say that?" and he's like "Dunno, just had a feeling you were going to ask that" "but not I don't remember any of my dreams last night"

That's pretty strange that he knew I was going to ask but I'm pretty sure it had something to do with the fact that I randomly asked if he remembered his dreams.

Hey everyone, read through most of this tread(first 20 pages!) in the past hr and a half...and in conclusion I think there is no conclusion. Like most ideas people tend to fed off them...they develop and over time can slowly become real in a persons mind even though the initial idea may only have been something as small as coversation like "i saw something strange in my dreams last night..like a shadow person" ...a friend replys "yea thats weird" off to bed that night and they dream like always but with the idea of a shadow person sitting in they're mind,lone behold they too see a shadow character...the plot thickins...

Then on the other hand perhaps the people on here are meeting these beings..fighting, battling whatever and over time have developed more and more knowledge to tell they're story. Overcoarse every story starts small and with nobody agreeing untill some day your not the only one talking about it...

Well thats my 2 cents anyways and if people get a lil pissed off because I voiced an opinion in this thread where somebody actually said not to post comments if your not a believer..well thats just a ridiculous statement...its like saying don't visit the dreamviews website if you've never had a lucid dream..!

Good to read this last page, atleast some people haven't lost their mind completely

I mean we may have the power to do a lot of things and the mind is powerful. Thinking you have god-like powers and so you can use others as your slave, thats just friggin ridiculous.

Keep your-life in balance folks. You are not god, you are not master of the universe.

Dreams can be fun, but reading every book there is about dreams and practice lucid dreaming every night, I dont think thats healthy at all.

I'm not about to tell people how they want to live their life here, and a lot of strange stuff happens to me, and I can live with that.

Digging to deep in to any topic, and then specially the unknown and dreams, I think that's a dangerous life-style.

It's kind of like food, eat at regular times and medium portions. Eat too much and you get fat and unhealthy.

And eat to little, don't means that you 'dream to little. It means that you sleep to little.

See past the megalomania, and save yourself from going mad!


That's all I have to say about this.

I may have come in contact with one. I had a FA, did a RC and got Lucid, but then all of a sudden my cat comes running up to me and goes OMG There's a bad guy outside!! I stayed lucid, he came in my house and i hurled the television clicker at him and hit him in the face. we got into a fist fight, punching each other and stuff. it didnt hurt, more like a feeling of discomfort.
I made myself wake up cause it was lame. I dont know if he was a NS/DW/Rogue or just my subconcious trying to make me non-lucid.

his description: Taller than me, 5'8 maybe? Black Hair to shoulders, kinda wavy. Caucasian with a tan, like australian actually. Brown Eyes. wearing a white wifebeater and idk about pants, maybe jeans?

Originally Posted by maxjohan

You are not god, you are not master of the universe.

Lol, "you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else"

seriously, can someone link me to the thread with the guy claming to have lucid powers when he woke up.

u skeptics are right, and so are the belivers! every one has his own right`nes..
what is true for you is true...nobody can take that away from u...unless u let them!!
my personal truth is that ALL what one experience is what is created by ones thinking! be that, dreams, waken world, feelings or what ever.. that explains alot of dream signs and the awaken life to! all our life we have ben thaught that we can not fly, cause we are a body and have to aply the laws of pfysics...we agree and so it is...in dreams we do not have a long time track telling us what we can and not...(:

Originally Posted by charlieboy24

all our life we have ben thaught that we can not fly, cause we are a body and have to aply the laws of pfysics...we agree and so it is...in dreams we do not have a long time track telling us what we can and not...(:

Yeah i will deff. teach my new borns how to fly.. jesus.

Just wave a lil with your arms kid and off you go.

Originally Posted by Gez

seriously, can someone link me to the thread with the guy claming to have lucid powers when he woke up.

i tried looking for it, but it's been awhile so i couldn't find it. plus the kid is banned so maybe the thread is deleted or something, i don't know.

Originally Posted by maxjohan

Yeah i will deff. teach my new borns how to fly.. jesus.

Just wave a lil with your arms kid and off you go.

Haha. It helps if you just throw them off a cliff like some animals do. If they die, they just weren't ready yet....