Thread: Anyone else met the Night Stalkers and Dream Walkers?

Originally Posted by tommo

Had you heard of these things before?
By bed walker she probably meant.... okay that doesn't work dw, my minds to dirty lol

lol I can't blame you on that line of thought. But no, i haven't heard of these names before, and this isn't the first time something like this has happened to me with dreams. Maybe it's a subconcious thing, like i've heard the term/s before and it now surfaces.

For instance: Several months ago I had a dream where a teacher figure asked me what i was reading as i handed her a book. I told her "Dante's Inferno" but as far as i could recall at the time, i had never heard of the book before. That led me to decide on going to school for english (long line of thinking cut short), but none the less it's one of the best choices I've made in a long time.

Yeh that kinda thing is very mind opening if you look at it without incorporating some sort of supernatural thing into it like some spirit was warning you about hell or something. You just have to take it that your mind is telling you something in those weird scenarios.
I have come to the conclusion that our subconscious picks up and stores every little thing that we ever experience. It's a useful tool to have access to. Or at least better access.

Anyway, maybe you just scrolled over the topic that was talking about them (like the topic title) or saw it on a tv show. I think someone mentioned that they were on Heroes.

But of course, a cigar is sometimes just a cigar; you could have just made that type of thing up yourself. I know I thought about being able to do similar things when I was little.

I will MILD tonight, if any night stalkers want to challenge me, I'll see you in my dreams

Holy cow! I thought this was all just a ridiculous hoax or something, but now that I think about it, I remember a dream in which two dream stalkers may have challenged me. One was a very talented a coordinated male, and the other was a not quite as talented female. It was crazy. They both wielded very powerful handguns. I tried to wrestle the gun out of the guy's hand, but he always managed to fire all of his rounds before I could aim the gun at him. The girl wasn't as efficient at discharging her weapon, and I gained control of the gun with one round left in the chamber. Then the girl discovered my weakness and used it against me. (I am not saying my weakness; I don't need any more attackers of that variety.) The guy stood behind her knowing that eventually I would crack and fire at her. However, I somehow locked my attention on him and shot him. He looked so shocked that I could work passed my weakness and fire at the real threat. This is probably also the coolest fight scene I've had in a dream.

There's this guy on this forum that claims he's going to stalk me in my dreams. He told me this a while ago. He still hasn't appeared. Not going to say who, but I'm curious as to why they chose me?

Probs coz you were a nooob.

At lucid dreaming? i'm pretty decent but this fool hasn't appeared yet. i've been waiting since like the summer.

Nah on the forum I meant.
You got 160 posts now and you said it was a while ago so I just guessed.

Originally Posted by cirenosille

For instance: Several months ago I had a dream where a teacher figure asked me what i was reading as i handed her a book. I told her "Dante's Inferno" but as far as i could recall at the time, i had never heard of the book before. That led me to decide on going to school for english (long line of thinking cut short), but none the less it's one of the best choices I've made in a long time.

I find it really hard to believe you've never heard of Dante's Inferno. You must have heard it mentioned somewhere and it just stuck in your mind. Inferno is just an attention catching word that is more likely to stick in your subconscious.

Originally Posted by Vorquel

Holy cow! I thought this was all just a ridiculous hoax or something, but now that I think about it, I remember a dream in which two dream stalkers may have challenged me. One was a very talented a coordinated male, and the other was a not quite as talented female. It was crazy. They both wielded very powerful handguns. I tried to wrestle the gun out of the guy's hand, but he always managed to fire all of his rounds before I could aim the gun at him. The girl wasn't as efficient at discharging her weapon, and I gained control of the gun with one round left in the chamber. Then the girl discovered my weakness and used it against me. (I am not saying my weakness; I don't need any more attackers of that variety.) The guy stood behind her knowing that eventually I would crack and fire at her. However, I somehow locked my attention on him and shot him. He looked so shocked that I could work passed my weakness and fire at the real threat. This is probably also the coolest fight scene I've had in a dream.

That doesn't really sound like NS style of control, plus I really doubt they'd "challenge" you. They just come at you.

Imagine I'm sitting at a table with you and there is a butter knife sitting on the table. Nothing really dangerous or threatening about it. But then I pick up the butter knife and start slashing the air violently, making whooshing sounds as I swing. You suddenly become aware of the weight of the metal knife, and that it has the potential to break bones.

That is a typical NS tactic. Actually attacking you isn't really important. By brandishing that butter knife with a theatrical flare, if draws you attention to how dangerous it could be, making it more real in your mind. That's the real power they can have over you. Hitting you with the butter knife isn't important at all, but implanting that scenario of danger is the real key.

So in order to defeat me in that scenario, you would have to learn to ignore my attempts at capturing your attention. In order to counter attack, you have to come up with something to distract me from my crazy knife wielding, so that my focus is no longer on terrorizing you.

The victory condition in those types of dream battles is not how badly you pummel your opponent, but how completely you can distract them. If you think you can just fight NS with super dream powers, you're not even playing the same game, and you won't stand a chance.

Originally Posted by Xibran123

There's this guy on this forum that claims he's going to stalk me in my dreams. He told me this a while ago. He still hasn't appeared. Not going to say who, but I'm curious as to why they chose me?

That would be Acillis. Said he was coming for me to, and to watch out for anyone all dressed in black. I'm still waiting.

So, Cusp, let me see if I get this.

The whole duel thing is psychological. If he were to do something like that with the knife, I would have to outdo him in some way such as, for example, flicking a brick building, and making it collapse. This would make me appear much stronger than him, and be able to harm him, right? So then he would have to outdo ME in some way. Am I in the ballpark there, or am I missing something?

It's not psychological at all. It has to do with focus and attention. If he doesn't even look at your building collapsing, then from his perspective it's completely irrelevant. WHen I actually figured out how to fight back, it was a very quick series of back and forth feints, like a speed chess match. You either deal with his move quickly or completely ignore it. If it takes too much time to deal with his feints, then you are losing. If you made the building collapse on top of your opponent, forcing him to deal with it, then that's like a point for you.

1. Everything requires your attention to exist

If you don't focus on his attack, it can't hurt you.

2. The more focus you give one dream element, the more related detail it creates.

The trick here is to come up with something so captivating, it just can't be ignored. If you focus on something too much, it becomes your whole universe. Like a out of control tooth dream. THe more nasty detail you look at, the more you will find. It just keeps pulling you in deeper and deeper.

3. Emotions are a powerful force in shaping your dreams.

This is why they usually attack with violence or scary stuff. If they can produce a feeling of fear or panic in you, your dreaming attention will create corresponding things to drag you down.

It's not what they do to you, but what they make you do to yourself, and vice versa.

Cusp, you should really link people to your other thread or else they will think those three things you listed are fact. Which they are not, they're theories.

Anyway. The most obvious thing I could think of is to walk away. Or just go, "wow that looks pretty cool". "Can you show me how to do it?"

Originally Posted by tommo

ubigcow - Well done reading the whole thread lol.

Thank you.

Cusp, you changed your avatar. I like the new one, but what was the old one?

Back on topic, I believe that your subconsiousness keeps a lot of the stuff that you sense without you ever realizing that you sensed it. Therefore feeling that you have heard something before or that you have experienced something before is probably because of memories that your consiousness cannot retrieve but your subconsiousness does.

I have read this entire thread.

Well there is lots of lore about dreamwalking. Shamans and witchdoctors cursing people in their dreams, driving people insane while they sleep, healing people through dreamwalking etc.

Again as my personality forces me, I don't ban this possibility. But in case it does exist it's some badass mojo skill

I have never met anyone who says they can do it or heard someone be able to do it.

This might seem a bit random but after reading this thread I just have to say..

The other night I met a girl in a dream who was in a rush to leave an elevator but I took her email address.. unfortunately I can't remember it and she wouldn't give me her number. This didn't seem like your average dream character... anyone wanna own up? :p

Oh, fine, you caught me.

lulz

I'm not english so forgive me for any mistake or misunderstanding!

I haven't read the whole thread so I'll just ask, couldn't the "Night stalkers and dream walkers" stuff just be a placebo and the people that appear on our dreams just be the results of our mind after we have read of this? Sorry but I found this hard to be true, though I would really like it to be!

Nights stalkers ruled by an Old lady which is evil? Kinda reminds me of the Drow, or dark elves of dungeons and dragons

Oh wow, suddenly I woke up and the world has turned into a bad hollywood film.

Originally Posted by Inner_Fears

I'm not english so forgive me for any mistake or misunderstanding!

All this stuff like "Night Stalkers" and "Dream Walkers" or "Inorganic beings" or something are trying to describe well-known phenomenon which every lucid dreamer faces sooner or later:

SOME DCs ARE SUSPICIOUS .

Originally Posted by Inner_Fears

I'm not english so forgive me for any mistake or misunderstanding!

I haven't read the whole thread so I'll just ask, couldn't the "Night stalkers and dream walkers" stuff just be a placebo and the people that appear on our dreams just be the results of our mind after we have read of this? Sorry but I found this hard to be true, though I would really like it to be!

Nights stalkers ruled by an Old lady which is evil? Kinda reminds me of the Drow, or dark elves of dungeons and dragons

Placebo effect? Most likely not. A lot of us had these experiences before we knew what Dream Walkers/Night Stalkers were. Heck, I had mine before I knew there was a term for Lucid Dreaming.

I'm not convinced that this isn't a construction of one's own mind.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

I'm not convinced that this isn't a construction of one's own mind.

No reason you should, there's certainly not anything on here that could be considered proof.

But I'm convinced. Well, 99% convinced until I can verify shared dreaming with someone. Haven't pulled off a decent attempt in a long time.

Wait is this like the spongebob episode where he walks into other peoples dreams?

IT'S REAL :O!?!?!?. It's our dream can't we control them? I think I have had this happen to me..
Edit: So people OBE and then walk into someone else's "Dream Cloud"

Quick question...

How do we know that night stalkers and dream walkers are not dream characters? I'm not saying I don't believe, but I just want to know what the difference is.

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