Thread: Where Do You Stand - Dream Guides

Yes, to an extent.

I do not believe Dream Guides are any sort of exterior force. This merely adds additional complications that are not needed, and per Occam's Razor make it less likely.

What I do believe is that they are extensions of your conscious mind that are taking a different viewpoint against the prevailing view of your awareness.

One can never see all of themselves - every person that you meet will have a different perspective of you. This will be comprised of their impressions, their prejudices, and their entire life experiences acting on both of the above. Dream Guides provide a similar thing; they may work on ideals that your main consciousness has not taken on board.

Yeah.

I often find that any old DC will tell me the barebones truth about myself too.

Dream Guides are essentially manifestations of your subconscious, a face to it if you will.

This would appropriately fit in the normal On-Topic forum, nothing beyond dreaming about it.

In some peoples opinion DGs are spirits, so I find it suitable to be in this forum. Although I personally do not favor that idea.

I don't know what to think about dream guides. My dream guides or should I call them dream characters don't tell me anything about myself. They will only answer me if I am looking for someone and where to find them. I would love it it a dc will tell me something and actually cooperate.

Originally Posted by DreamSeer

I don't know what to think about dream guides. My dream guides or should I call them dream characters don't tell me anything about myself. They will only answer me if I am looking for someone and where to find them. I would love it it a dc will tell me something and actually cooperate.

That's what i have always wondered. Can your subconscious have a personality LOL. It is so crazy to think about talking to a sub conscious, i love it.

I don't think anyone needs to believe in dream guides. A lot of people have dream guides and do not consider it anything supernatural at all--they see the dream guide as a part of their own subconscious mind. Other people choose to see their dream guides as sort of spirit guides. It's all up to how you interpret it.

I'm wondering if because you are asleep, you aren't thinking about what other people think about you -- therefore you have an unclouded opinion. As if the protection of being inside your own dream lets you relax and be yourself.

Hmm...in theory, that is possible, I guess. On the other hand, when we're dreaming, our thinking tends to be extremely clouded and illogical--otherwise we would all be lucid all the time, because we would question reality whenever something crazy happens in our dreams. Whenever I'm not lucid, I actually believe my dream is reality, and so I act accordingly.

When it comes to how someone feels about dream guides, normally I don't think that what other people think would be in the equation. If you believe one thing or another, do you normally ask yourself "well before I decide to believe this way, I need to think about how other people will see me first"? Hmm...or maybe I'm not understanding what you're trying to say here.

Originally Posted by Loaf

In some peoples opinion DGs are spirits, so I find it suitable to be in this forum. Although I personally do not favor that idea.

Why not? (Not baiting. Promise. Just curious.)

Originally Posted by saxonharp

Why not? (Not baiting. Promise. Just curious.)

I think the whole idea of having some spirit that appears to you in your dreams is just outrageous. As far as I am concerned, right now my opinion is that dreams are all just in your head. Theres no ghosties or entities that fly inside your mind, there is no special dream world where we magically fly off to, and there are no alternate dream reality universes in which we can meet it. Its all BS.

Originally Posted by Loaf

I think the whole idea of having some spirit that appears to you in your dreams is just outrageous. As far as I am concerned, right now my opinion is that dreams are all just in your head. Theres no ghosties or entities that fly inside your mind, there is no special dream world where we magically fly off to, and there are no alternate dream reality universes in which we can meet it. Its all BS.

Sounds like a pretty firm belief lol

Ha ha.
I think it would be awesome if we could have a spirit that visits us in our dream. I just think its not true.

Well, I can't really say. I haven't even met my dream guide yet.

Yes! In the sense they exists as a part of my subconcious, of course. That and I wouldn't like it to be a wandering spirit, would feel bad in waking about them <.<

I believe that they are manifestations of spirit/divine intelligence. So am I. Aren't we all?

We are like dreams dreaming dreams within dreams dreaming

Originally Posted by Hijo de la Luna

I believe that they are manifestations of spirit/divine intelligence. So am I. Aren't we all?

We are like dreams dreaming dreams within dreams dreaming

Possibly, but almost certainly not.

Well, the biggest problem is the lack of evidence, i hate to say it because personally i AM a believer of shit like that in general, but without any evidence its always just gonna be one mans word against the other. I just hope we all live long enough to see something like that happen lol. Imagine a device that could record your dreams. o.O

I just woke up and accidentally voted for "Yes, to an extend" since it was the only one that had an (explain) on it.

I believe that spirits are the same thing as mental manifestations, only that it doesn't mean that one's mental manifestation isn't able to affect others and the world as well.

To me, Spirit/Dream guides are another facet of yourself, another focus of will and awareness that "shares the same room as you", but if you change the point of view in the situation, you are another facet of your other side, just as both are but faces of the same being.

In my view it works just as those balancing reactions, like on heat balancing or osmosis, or even chemical balance.

I believe through talking to what you percieve as a dreamguide, you are really accessing the link to your subconscious mind, which is normally, for most people, completely gone while you are properly conscious.

You see, when you are properly conscious throughout the day, most people who haven't learned how to effectively listen and speak to their subconscious are completely shut off from it. But it's almost like it's own brain with nearly limitless potential. It tries to tell you things all the time.

Being that your entire reality in your lucid dreams is a complete fabrication of your subconscious, any characters you see, such as "dream guides" are just personified versions of your active subconscious. While you ARE conscious in a lucid dream, you are conscious in a completely different way, with your brainwaves operating in the theta range as opposed to beta or alpha. As a recognizable biproduct of this, your logic is completely different than it would be were you actually awake.

I think 'dreamguides' are just a useful concept for people who don't have practice communicating with themselves, or don't know how. Really, any part of your lucid dream is your subconscious. Any DC you talk to is still that same direct link to your limitless subconscious mind, but maybe if you don't believe that a DC can give you REAL advice about yourself, then you may need to spawn your dreamguide to serve as a sort of placebo effect so that you really get good info from it.

Either way, whether you assign spiritual meaning to it or not, it is still part of you that will tell you if there's anything wrong, what you need to do, why you've been feeling a certain way, etc. Whether you believe it's some devine being, or whether you believe it's just a part of your mind, it's still a MAGNIFICENT tool to have for learning all about yourself.

To me it's the one's higher self, which is fully free from our fears, lazy, needs and clouds of confusion, maybe a perfect fusion of our mind. I also think that our DCs commonly represents fragments of our unconscious, thus we can find "living beings" of all sort of personalities that are deep in our mind, in our dreams.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

Imagine a device that could record your dreams. o.O

Not to derail the thread or anything, but they're working on that, and getting very close to it.

Originally Posted by Naiya

Not to derail the thread or anything, but they're working on that, and getting very close to it.

My god, they have ACTUAL images from what ANOTHER BEING IS SEEING WOW! We are closer than i expected! Sorry to go off topic but that is just amazing.

Originally Posted by Elem3nt0

My god, they have ACTUAL images from what ANOTHER BEING IS SEEING WOW! We are closer than i expected! Sorry to go off topic but that is just amazing.

No worries, that is fucking awesome.