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hey everyone, i have 8 days off so its the best time for me to get into wilding, i think the hardest part is going to be to get my lazy ass out of bed for a minute so i dont pass out the second i begin my attempt lol.

Yeah i'm having a 4 day weekend so i'm trying to get a WILD in by the end of the week

welcome katsuno!
Yeah so guys I just woke up. It's 2 am. I'm having a little breakfast for a wake up.
Last night I set two alarms. 1 for 10 pm, and the other for 1 am. When the 10 am
alarm woke me up, I turned it off and attempted a WBTB WILD which failed
miserably. I didn't get anywhere except for a bit of numbness and massive discomfort.
I went back to sleep and then woke up to my 1 am alarm. I remember having a dream
but I don't recall it. Such short bursts I think may have screwed with my recall but that's
okay. I'm going to get a shower and turn the heat up in my room because it is freezing.
In 6 or 7 hours about 7 or 8 am, I am going to attempt a WILD. I'll report back what I
find. I may end up just sticking with naps and STB because WBTB is just not working for
me.
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Also welcome to Siuol!

Hey, all of you!
So I've read your comments so far and I've had similar experiences.
When I try to WILD I meditate and focus on a word (A person in my dream said it's a special word). So far I only get to sp but then I freak out because everytime I hear some monster voices shouting at me (I have very bad nightmares lately, about 1 a night O.o).
I try wilding before having slept every day (no success but sometimes sp) and on weekend with wbtb. But I think I'm close to finding the missing piece of the puzzle ^^
And thank you again for inviting me to the group

I went to sleep at 10 and woke up at 2. I didn't wild but then I woke up at 4 again to try to wbtb and wild. I got up just long enough to go to the bathroom and get a drink. I did this with the lights turned off. When I got back to bed I lay on my side and try to wild. I started to get uncomfortable and I rolled over onto my other side. After about 20 minutes I had this sudden intense vibration in my chest, but It went away. I think it is because I started concentrating on it ( this also happened in my other wild attempt) I was mad at myself and I rolled over onto my stomach and tried again. After laying there for about and hour and a half more I just gave up. Then I couldn't fall asleep! I stayed up for about 3 hours . I eventually did fall asleep, but only for about 20 minutes to have a nightmare.

But from failing comes learning and I have learned when I get vibrations not to focus on them or even pay attention. I also take this as another opportunity to WILD during a nap today! You can always find a bright side in everything!

Also, I think i'm going to move the time back when I wake up to 3. Since you guys are saying being more tired helps. Maybe it will give me the little push to get into SP.

Refrain, exactly this happened to me some time ago!
I found out that I can fall asleep much easier when I focus on my breath and don't think about thinking nothing (What I mean with it: Just let your mind wander)
When you focus on falling asleep it makes you more awake (at least thats what happens to me) and when I just try to relax and focus on breathing (without any thoughts on wild or ld) I fall asleep within 5 minutes even when I'm wide awake.
And for the being tired thingy, when I try WILD while being tired I loose concentration too fast and just pass out.
Well but it differs from person to person doesn't it ?
About 1 month ago I did a challenge that turned out really bad but in the end I learned much from it.
I made a bet with my friend and the challenge was to get into sp by not moving. The person who falls asleep without having a wild or at least getting into sp looses.
So I went to bed and did not move.
.....Well after the night I ended up without being able to sleep at all and I wasn't moving for about 6 hours but I didn't get into sp. After about 8 hours I just passed out because of exhaustion.
So I had 1 hour of sleep that night and had school next day
But I learned that when you try something too hard you will just get the opposite and that getting into sp has nothing (or not much) to do with moving but with your mindset.
On my first Wild I ever had I rolled over and in the next 10 seconds I was in sp and that was mostly because I did not even think about Wild that night. I was just laying in my bed thinking about a story and suddenly I noticed I was in sp and then I had a Wild.
Well I hope this helps

No success for me too. I missed the alarm I made for 5:30AM but luckily, I had a back up alarm that woke me up. I attempted to wild but I didnt really go anywhere. I was changing my breathing patterns to much and because it was kinda close to breakfast, I was hungry.

I also felt little tingles around my body but I always get that when I try to wild.

No success with the nap WILD at 7am. I think I need to get more tired. But with my early start today it
might be possible. I am going to stay awake from now until tonight and hopefully I will be exhausted.
all I got was complete body numbness, very seldom HI, and couple feelings that felt like I was going into
SP but it never started.

I have never experienced SP and know what if feels like and the different things that happen is SP (From what I have read.)

For me when I hit sp I get these vibrations throughout my body and sometimes hear a buzzing noise. Then I feel like im rolling down a hill. Sometimes I also feel like Im sinking into my bed.

I've hit SP once but accidentally moved so I didn't get anywhere with it.
It's really intense though. I get a lot of pressure, heartbeat gets really
fast and resonates through my body, I get heavy, etc...

It was during an STB WILD attempt so I think I'm going to go back to that.

What is a stb wild?

When I get into sp I can't move at all and it's like I'm riding down a waterfall.
Most times I get a strong feeling of fear and feel a dark presence in the room. When I try to imagine something while in sp I hear very loud noises and it feels like I'm getting sucked into a tunnel.

I have felt like i'm spinning or getting sucked into something but i'm never in SP :/

ok so today i woke up from a quiet alarm, just loud enough to do its job, tried to wild and instantly passed out. snooze came on, same story but i stayed up for a minute to turn off the alarm. im going to try getting up and going to the bathroom or lying down on my back, but i can tell this is going to be a battle of finding the balance between wakefullness and exhaustion. anyway i woke up naturally for a few attempts, and one i got far. i was actually haveing a non lucid dream for 5-10 minutes just from letting my mind wander, but i could still feel my body, which was numb but i dont think it was sp. it was strange, and then i got interested in what my body was doing and i shifted my attention slightly to it. then i got the usual transition feeling i can never get past, my body got almost a chill through it, a feeling like pins and needles in my brain (but not really unpleasent), falling, and this time it was new because i saw very very faint purple orbs floating around. thats when i failed and i went back to only being numb. i was calm, but payed to much attention, i think this is like if your daydreaming and arent aware of anything, and then you snap back to what the teachers saying, and in this i have to keep ignoring the teacher.

also anyone think using isochronic tones or binaural beats while trying to wild would help? and im also think i might try to FILD one night followed with multiple DEILD so i can maybe have something to expect when transitioning, even though it happens fast for those 2.

Siuol you could try some Isochronic tones from Iso-tones.com - Home Page if you want. I've tried some of them and had nice experiences. My favourite one is Journey
But if you want to hear a relaxing sound go to RainyMood.com or search for the sound file on google. It's just awesome and I had some nice Wild experiences with it.

I have tried using a song that is suppose to induce lucid dreams but that didn't really work.

I think we all need to find the are at night were are REM is because if we are able to walk up from a dream, then it will be able to let are mind wander while we are trying to wild. (Think of the previous dream.)