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    Learning to Fly (lucid!); "Dad, you're a jerk"; "Don't Tread on Me!"; "Field Trip! (Lucid!)"

    by , 07-29-2014 at 06:44 PM (757 Views)
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    5:17 AM: I am making a t-shirt for my club. I want it to feature quotes from Metallica, and I feel our members will like this. I show some designs: it is a chessboard with the words RED and BLACK stenciled on first row of squares. Writing is in red and black, lol. I know I will have to pay for this, especially to use Metallica's words and music, as they are so serious about being reimbursed (Napster!). A club member discusses the pros and cons of the project. In particular, he discusses how many people we are trying to reach are not being so due to poor storytelling skills on Sensei's part. Sensei favors good vs. evil conflicts, with good always prevailing. My club member (a WL friend) gives an example here discussing the merits of a literary work, in particular, a work in which Tannhauser (in this work, evil) has his "flesh tanned" at a Christmas dinner (some kind of medieval punishment). He then becomes a good guy and wins "the curried Christmas turkey breast" in some sort of competition (a joust, maybe) and defeats someone evil in single combat (swords). The idea is that Sensei's rigid preference for good over evil is excluding people from the club. Due to Sensei's popularity, this literary work is not nearly as damning as the club member hoped it would be. It is also expressed to me that I should use different Metallica material as this is the last time I will be combining Metallica and club slogans, for some reason (I've chosen stuff from Kill Them All but now consider whether it would be better to use Garage Inc. or And Justice for All. Multiple WL friends appear in this dream.

    7:11 AM: My father and I have a heart-to-heart (day residue). He is writing a blog about President George W. Bush leaving office; president is spelled "presdent"-- I sigh at my father's poor spelling! He calls my mother and begins talking on the phone. He is trying to explain about new cellphones, but uses a lot of technical jargon to sound smart. She says, "Speak English, man!" He then suggests taking a Vicodin to "calm herself." I shake my head. He sees this and asks what is wrong. I tell him he is being really rude. He hangs up on my mom; he does not think he has been rude. I put it to him this way: "If someone told you to take drugs every time you got annoyed, you'd be pissed." He still is not getting it. "Dad, I need to say this," I say, and make it clear I don't want to be interrupted. I then have a personal conversation with my dad that I would rather not relate on the Internet!

    1st fragment: I am riding my bike at my workplace. My boss is discussing new for the fiscal year with a bunch of suits outside in our courtyard. I am riding around them on my bike, not a care in the world. I am surprised at how light I feel, and jump the front tire over concrete steps and bumps. I notice that I am not riding my wife's bike, and am surprised--the tires are different. I also realize I have no helmet on and decide to be extra careful while riding. I almost fall from the bike from riding down too steep an incline, but manage to catch myself very lightly. Again, I think this amazing, but don't make the connection

    2nd fragment: I am with my wife. She is hiding folded up dollar bills (day residue) in the little door of the car gas tank, for if we ever need money for gas. I begin to tell my sister where the money is, then decide not to.

    FA: I feel I have woken from all of these dreams. My wife awakes, excited. "Did that really just happen!? Did I really dream that!?!?" she asks. "Tell me that was real!" She is crying happily as she gets her DJ out. I assume she has had some poignant experience and I say nothing, so that she will not be distracted and forget. She then gets up and uses the RR. I am worried she will forget her dream before writing it down; I don't want her to lose her dream and be sad.

    (WBTB and WILD attempt--7:30ish)

    8:29 AM: I am riding in the car with my mom on the interstate. I suddenly become cognizant that I am dreaming. I nose pinch to confirm. "Isn't it funny," I ask her, "that none of this is real?" I then nose pinch again (just to be sure--leaping from a speeding vehicle is almost never a good idea) and then open the door. The pavement and road shoulder are moving incredibly fast. I just step out, and the world slows down around me; I land safely on my feet. I manage to fly around a little bit! I get up in the air, and say "Look, I am higher! I'm higher!" Each time I say this I am lifted higher into the sky, or rather, the ground drops farther and farther away. It comes into my mind that I am tricking the dream (doh!) and the ground resumes its normal position. I am messing around with flying some more when I remember my 3-step task. I reach into my pocket and summon my cellphone; it is there. I open the lock screen and read some texts; some stuff from my dad, but all gibberish. I toss the phone away. I approach the wall of a building and phase my hand through; it passes through like a ghost, which has never happened before. I am already phasing my body through the wall, and the normal feeling of passing through jello or plasma or whatever returns

    Inside is an odd shaped room--sort of bottle-necked with a square body and long-necked hallways. I can't remember exactly what occurred in this room, but I know I did not encounter any DCs or eat anything . . . lol. I see a mirror and wonder if phasing through a mirror is a task (old TotM, I believe--heard about it from podcasts). I phase through (a first for me, actually) but C/R what was on the other side. I suddenly realize I've been running about for a bit and have not seen any DCs--I forgot about my mom at this point. I leave this building and decide to summon a WL friend. "Jane (not her real name) be around this corner!" I say. I run around the brick side of the building, onto a cement patio with a picnic table. Sitting on the picnic table is my friend. She appears for a moment, and then changes into an old crush from high school. She looks really good and I almost lose it, lol. Her DC is stable, and looks exactly as she does in WL, except for dream glamour that always makes distracting DCs incredibly beautiful. We have a conversation.

    "Hey (insert my WL name, lol,) it's really great to see you! you look good!" she says. She is wearing short shorts and her feet and legs are sandy, as though she's been walking at the beach. "You look good, too," I say, though I am cognizant that she is not real. She notices me oggling her and offers to have sex with me (which started out as one of my NL goals in several lucid dreams). I begin to comply, but then back away. I say, "I've been trying really hard not to get distracted during dreams, so I think I won't this time." She smiles and gives me a thumbs up. "Good job," she says, and then begins talking about her life and stuff. Admittedly I lose interest at this point and begin thinking about the tasks. I realize I should listen attentively (dream yoga and all) but then think, "I don't have time for this." I interrupt her: "What are some good lucid tasks for me to accomplish?" She sits for a moment and thinks. "How about flying?" she asks. I groan. "I'm terrible at flying." I look at her. "Do you know how?" She smiles and nods. "Show me, please!" I say. She holds out her hand and I take it and we walk out to an open area. I am very excited: I am finally going to get to advanced flying, and my crush from high school is going to teach me. Sweet! She looks up into the sky and then jumps. Nothing happens. She tries a couple more times and shrugs. I leave, annoyed, and decide to find someone who does know how to fly in this damn dream.

    I run about the dream landscape, doing lots of high jumping (onto the backs of cars, up onto buildings and such). I find a hotel that seems to have people in it. I enter; it is packed with DCs. I look around at all of them: who would know how to fly? I ask one. She gives me a weird look and says she does not know how. I see a headless woman carrying a tray of something; surely a headless DC would know how to fly? I approach and ask, and she replies, "Um, I don't think I want to buy any," as though I am a salesperson. I ask a man and he looks disgustedly at me and says, "Oh, a dream question." I finally look around and shout, "Quiet!" Everyone stops talking and looks at me. There is still music and laughter coming from the ball room. "Tell them to be quiet in there too," I say (C/R if they shut up or not, lol). I say, "Who in here knows how to fly?" The DCs look around at each other. Finally a girl my age raises her hand and says, "I do." She asks me if this is the only way "Santa will bring me wings for Christmas" (A DV reference). She agrees to show me, and then proceeds to waste a lot of dream time screwing around, looking out of windows, rummaging through stuff. I keep asking her to hurry, because the dream will end soon, and she tells me to be patient or something. At some point, I begin to feel odd tactile sensations--someone brushing my hair, and tickling my body. I am not sure if these are random dream sensations or my wife trying to wake me up IRL. I move away from the area I am standing in and the sensations fade. I realize the dream will end soon and I quickly try to scan back through the events, in order to remember the dream better. As I am doing this I
    wake up. I think to DEILD, but then realize I will forget this dream (In all, this LD lasted about 45 minutes!)

    3rd fragment: I am trying to open a car door. The handle snaps off in my hand. I flip it around and put it back on backwards; the handle works fine even though it isn't installed properly. I realize this is odd and wake up.

    4th fragment: I have a somewhat lengthy dream, but am under the impression that I am merely deep in thought. In the dream, I am teaching a class on lucid dreaming. My students and I are back in the previous LD environment, with one of my WL friends leading the pack, lol, explaining what she wants to see in a dream. I look out of a window and tease them by saying, "I think I see a rat catcher!" We are walking through a beautiful wood-floor home, with many staircases and sunlit hallways. My high school crush passes again, and we meet eyes. She pats my stomach as she passes. I am suddenly aware that I am actually dreaming, and not merely deep in thought imagining myself to be dreaming, but I run out of REM time and wake up.

    4 fragments: 2
    3 dreams: 3
    1 LD: 5

    WBTB (sako!): 2
    WILD (unsuccessful): 1

    Basic
    RC/stabilize: 1
    Interact with dream character: 2
    flying: 4
    basic summoning: 4
    Gain invulnerability: 4
    Hand through object: 4
    Use electronic device: 4

    Advanced
    Phase through object: 8

    Three-step task
    Summon phone, hand through object, walk through wall: 30

    I am getting 73 total points. Let me know if this is not correct!

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    Comments

    1. FryingMan's Avatar
      She notices me oggling her and offers to have sex with me
      Throwing fireballs vs. a shining beautiful willing dream girl.....fire....girl....CAVEMAN WINS

      Congrats though on the mental iron. I've managed that...I think precisely two times.

      Love the crowd action ("quiet!"). I've never been big on dialog in my LDs, either speaking or listening. Asking a DC her name and getting an answer is about the longest conversation I've ever had.

      By the way, it was probably a good idea *not* letting the crush take control of the conversation, and just listening, as that may place too much emphasis on the dream and you may get carried away outside of the lucidity. Taking control and directing the action/narrative probably helped the dream to continue and to keep a hold of your lucidity.
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      Updated 07-30-2014 at 06:22 PM by FryingMan
    2. ThreeCat's Avatar
      Fryingman--thanks for the comment!

      I know exactly what you mean. I would interrupt so many LDs the moment I saw some beautiful girl appear, but I started thinking (as I am prone to do) that they are just phantoms and not real, whereas my waking sense of accomplishment (while also not "real") feels more real to me than a dream girl! So when I would succumb to instinct and wake up a few minutes later, I would say to myself that next time I would not give in so easily! It has taken some work

      One of the things I have been practicing is treating DCs the same way I would treat WLCs (!): as nice as possible. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment (finding this thing, doing this thing, etc.) but there are times when I just let the DCs talk.

      And I think you are absolutely right--paying attention to someone's words means you are not paying attention to yourself and the dreamscape as an unreal construct. So, so far as accumulating contest points, I probably made the appropriate choice But I guess I really did not want to hear about her life, either . . . .

      Thanks for the comment!
    3. FryingMan's Avatar
      Interesting, I realize that I'm nicer lucid than non-lucid. NLD FM caveman is a fearsome creature. He's also gotten way way more action than LD FM, so I guess female DCs have the same thing about liking bad boys better than "nice guys."
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    4. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      I am very excited: I am finally going to get to advanced flying, and my crush from high school is going to teach me. Sweet!
      Ha ha, dang, man I was excited too! I think I was almost as disappointed as you were when it didn't happen the way it should have!

      Nice and stable all the way through! You sure managed to get a lot done and the dream was just so long! Whatever you are doing to keep em rolling for that long, keep it up and then tell me how to do it!
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    5. FryingMan's Avatar
      Yes that "DG flying let down" was pretty funny/disappointing. I had a DC in one LD whom I thought was a DG who was going to show me how to do all sorts of things then I lost track of him.
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    6. StephL's Avatar
      Wow - one determined flying disciple you are ThreeCat!!
      I'm with CL - I thought - well that's the way, surely - and felt with you when it didn't come about. And I admire your stability and lucid lengths as well!
      It's going to come online soon - don't worry!
      Again - if I were you - I would jump from a height, enough height, that you can drop a little bit until whatever makes you fly kicks in.
      I can't imagine you would just fall - and if - just start out with claiming invulnerability and count it such!

      Had that once, I just jumped and forbade myself to use the swimming thing. One could also start this from air-swimming and just cease to do it.
      What happened was just catching myself while falling and hover at a proper height then, not just a bit over the ground, like my usual hovering.
      How? Well - honestly, I closed my eyes, bit afraid from falling so fast - it stopped - eyes open - I was at a height of a three/four story house then.

      First I thought, I can't get anywhere - like being caught in place. But then I intensely concentrated on something in the distance, it was a huge letter A on the roof of a house. Woosh - I was there - almost not by flying, rather zooming in on it. It surprised me, the speed, and I thought I would crash right through the thing - nope - stopped short, when I was there.

      Remember, that you are invulnerable anyway - you're in your bed! Any "lucid fear" is just experiencing something unprecedented - not sensible fear of real danger/pain!
      It's not fear - it's thrill!!

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      Updated 07-31-2014 at 03:33 PM by StephL
    7. ThreeCat's Avatar
      CanisLucidus, I have been working on that a bit. I think it depends on how far into the dream I realize lucidity. If it is early, I normally have a long stable dream. If not, then it is more shaky. WILDs and DEILDs are usually very stable for me, but the latter tend to end quickly, which I think is normal! I notice that if I don't have anything to focus on (a goal or task, for instance) then stability wavers. These DV tasks have really helped me a lot with stability.

      And thank you all for the commiseration: could possibly have been the most epic experience of my life, lol. It was pretty great all around though. I have tried to summon her in the past, with no luck, and now she just appears on her own, lol.

      StephL, that is really good advice--both for the jumping from a height and the invulnerability if I don't succeed. I have jumped from many high places (mostly from my condo balcony and roof) but never been able to take off from there.

      I am really interested in your technique--it reminds me a LOT of Carlos Castaneda's method of moving long distances in a dream. He was not doing it consciously, but I was thinking that surely this would be possible (and probably rather easy). Hearing you talk about it give me an idea though I don't know if it counts for flying, super speed, teleportation, or what!

      Thanks for encouragement, guys.
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    8. ~Dreamer~'s Avatar
      Awesome recall, ThreeCat!

      Is your wife really a dreamer? That's awesome that you were so considerate of her recall, that is my idea of a true gentleman!

      Well done for remembering so much dialogue, that's something I really struggle with!

      I also struggled a lot with flying early in my LD journey. The way I got around it was to use something I was better at, summoning, to work my way into flying. I would summon an object to fly on, usually a magic carpet or sometimes a broom, and let that do the work for me. Once my mind got more used to the sensation of flying through the air, I think it was much easier to imagine doing it without assistance.

      Great work with the super long LD! Many more to come.
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    9. ThreeCat's Avatar
      Hey Dreamer, I'm just seeing this. My wife is a dreamer! We read each other our DJs either in the morning or (here lately) in the evening. We get a kick out of all the funny stuff the other one dreams about. She tends to be at work a lot, while I am often back in high school. I try to be considerate of her DJing as I want her to get better and better!

      I read the other day about using an object, so now (since you bring it up!) I might give it a try. I had thought about using an umbrella (just seems to suit me) but I wonder if that is too mundane an object to begin with? Maybe I will summon the magic carpet and do the Aladdin ToTY! I really appreciate the help! Good luck tonight!
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    10. ~Dreamer~'s Avatar
      That's awesome! I love living with a dreamer.
      My housemate (who was my boyfriend for a few years, but we transitioned into an awesome friendship and continued living together) is amazingly helpful when I'm trying to DJ. Sometimes he'll come into my room in the morning, and the first thing he'll ask is, "Do you need a minute to recall your dreams?" and if I say yes, he'll walk out and give me 5 minutes without another word! I can't imagine getting that kind of understanding from a muggle.

      Good luck with the flying!
      Try whatever object suits you best, they are all capable of dream powers!
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    11. OneUp's Avatar
      Congrats man! Really enjoyed reading through this entry, really interesting! Lol the part where your crush jumps and nothing happens is hilarious . Glad it was a nice long lucid ThreeCat! Just curious man, but have you ever tried dilating time? It really nice and it takes away the worry of how long you have in the dream. It will make all your adventures much longer my friend!
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    12. ThreeCat's Avatar
      Hey OneUp--I don't know much about time dilation. I tend to be a skeptic, actually I imagine that it is possible to create the sense of time passing through the creation of false memories, but as for actual dream time, and how much can be done in a dream . . . . I dunno man I will have to experience that some time. How do you make this happen for yourself?