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      Quote Originally Posted by Siphorix View Post
      Well, if anyone here has tried Shrooms those things have a SERIOUS impact on time! Seconds feel like minutes, and minutes literally feel like hours. Time will never go slower then it will on shrooms. You can have hundreds of thoughts, ideas, convos, etc, and only take up one minute. You will be amazed by how slow time goes. .. Slight similar to weed.

      Since time is relative, you can change how you perceive it.

      One example, relax, and focus on time, make it go slow, use your internal clock to really focus on how time passes. Look at a hand on a watch... Time can actually appear to move slower.

      With me, I remember the Shroom trip, and I can literally make my dreams take the same pace. I can have dreams which feel last hours and hours if not a whole day, or to the opposite effect, have them last mere minutes. It all has to do with the way you process time.

      Since your mind communicates at roughly "268 miles/hr", and your brain is less then a foot long, it is almost instant. With that said, ideas, memories, and even dreams can virtually take place at the same speed, but giving the dreamer the same speed as well, changing perception of time.

      I looked at the clock after what felt like 30 minutes or so and found the same time as the last time I had checked. I wouldn't really say it does it in a way similar to cannabis, though.

      Shit, maybe I should just eat shrooms in a dream. That would be interesting, in fact. I've never gotten to try it but I've always wanted to try taking some sort of dream drug that it meant to increase dream time, and see if it actually works.

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      So, I found a new technique for time dilation/super speed taught to me by a DC. He said, "Just say out loud, 'Everything is slowing down, but me!" I tried it, and it worked. After awhile, I could shorten the phrase to a single word: slow.
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      Both me and alter have had much success with time dilation. Personally I use a combination of many different techs simultaneously, and this system is constantly evolving. Mostly it is based on feelings which are very difficult to put into words, its almost like trying to send out messages to your muscles until you finally find the one that somehow manages to make your ear twitch.

      Mostly though I use 2 main techniques in order to extend my dreams.

      The first is fairly simple, and anyone with enough dream control and control over their senses should be able to do with practice. Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time.

      The other main tech I use, is I have 1 of my bodies meditate in the hyperbolic time chamber from dbz. This is much harder to explain but is based mostly on visualization (using HUD clocks) and feeling which I doubt I can explain better than the ear muscle explanation. This body attempts to slow down (or speed up depending on perspective) perceived time for all of my dream bodies simultaneously.

      Using these 2 main techs in combination with many minor techs has allowed me to perceive many years of dream content in a mere 2 hours of sleep. I have also had times in which I have slept for over 24 hours and dreamed for what felt like hundreds of years, to the point where I had forgotten many things from irl. I felt as if I could remain their indefinitely (or near indefinitely) but I always choose to come back for some reason or other. These days, since I tend to spend much more time in my dreams than the waking world, instead of keeping a dream journal I keep a sort of thisworld journal which I use to keep from forgetting important things irl. I write before bed and read upon waking to reintegrate myself into this world.

      Good luck with time dilation guys, from my experience it has mostly been simply a case of much practice and much trial and error.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mylynes View Post
      Both me and alter have had much success with time dilation. Personally I use a combination of many different techs simultaneously, and this system is constantly evolving. Mostly it is based on feelings which are very difficult to put into words, its almost like trying to send out messages to your muscles until you finally find the one that somehow manages to make your ear twitch.

      Mostly though I use 2 main techniques in order to extend my dreams.

      The first is fairly simple, and anyone with enough dream control and control over their senses should be able to do with practice. Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time.

      I have done this, what I call: multi-dreaming many times without trying to do it on purpose. One time I was dreaming five dreams at once. For awhile it was happening (or still does happen) every time I slept. I stopped journalling all the different simultaneous dreams, because it was too much. Now, I just focus on the dream that I like the most out of my multi-dreams. This is a strange thing: I have not been able to split my awareness between two dream bodies in the same dream. I can multiply myself, but I always go into third person view when I do that.

      The other main tech I use, is I have 1 of my bodies meditate in the hyperbolic time chamber from dbz. This is much harder to explain but is based mostly on visualization (using HUD clocks) and feeling which I doubt I can explain better than the ear muscle explanation. This body attempts to slow down (or speed up depending on perspective) perceived time for all of my dream bodies simultaneously.

      I have been working on creating an HUD for dreams and Wakeworld. I have found meditating in dreams helps with a lot of dream control powers, if I can remember to do it.

      Using these 2 main techs in combination with many minor techs has allowed me to perceive many years of dream content in a mere 2 hours of sleep. I have also had times in which I have slept for over 24 hours

      wow

      and dreamed for what felt like hundreds of years, to the point where I had forgotten many things from irl. I felt as if I could remain their indefinitely (or near indefinitely) but I always choose to come back for some reason or other. These days, since I tend to spend much more time in my dreams than the waking world, instead of keeping a dream journal I keep a sort of thisworld journal which I use to keep from forgetting important things irl. I write before bed and read upon waking to reintegrate myself into this world.

      Good luck with time dilation guys, from my experience it has mostly been simply a case of much practice and much trial and error.
      I think I had a kind of reintegration disorientation yesterday morning. I woke up, and felt really bothered by that feeling that I was forgetting to do something. I also felt like this world, Wakeworld aka Thisworld is just one of many dreams I am dreaming. I could not remember the thing I was supposed to do. I went back to sleep, and woke up feeling fine. I think maybe there was something i had wanted to do in the Dreamworld, but didn't, and both times when I woke up I forgot my dreams.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Siphorix View Post
      One example, relax, and focus on time, make it go slow, use your internal clock to really focus on how time passes. Look at a hand on a watch... Time can actually appear to move slower.
      I've done this before, it was really interesting.
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      I started doing a new Time Dilation technique intuitively in my dreams. I sit under a giant clock tower, and meditate until it feels like there are five minutes between the second hand ticks.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mylynes View Post
      Both me and alter have had much success with time dilation. Personally I use a combination of many different techs simultaneously, and this system is constantly evolving. Mostly it is based on feelings which are very difficult to put into words, its almost like trying to send out messages to your muscles until you finally find the one that somehow manages to make your ear twitch.

      Mostly though I use 2 main techniques in order to extend my dreams.

      The first is fairly simple, and anyone with enough dream control and control over their senses should be able to do with practice. Basically you split yourself into 2 separate dream bodies, separate awareness. Not mere clones but bodies with which you can perceive the world through separately. Both bodies have completely separate vision, hearing, touch, ect. If you can do this, then you can effectively split into 2 and have 2 completely separate dreams simultaneously. In short, you can have 2 full and separate dreams in the same time frame as you would normally only have 1 dream. You can then continue splitting your awareness to increase the amount of content that can be perceived in the same amount of time.

      The other main tech I use, is I have 1 of my bodies meditate in the hyperbolic time chamber from dbz. This is much harder to explain but is based mostly on visualization (using HUD clocks) and feeling which I doubt I can explain better than the ear muscle explanation. This body attempts to slow down (or speed up depending on perspective) perceived time for all of my dream bodies simultaneously.

      Using these 2 main techs in combination with many minor techs has allowed me to perceive many years of dream content in a mere 2 hours of sleep. I have also had times in which I have slept for over 24 hours and dreamed for what felt like hundreds of years, to the point where I had forgotten many things from irl. I felt as if I could remain their indefinitely (or near indefinitely) but I always choose to come back for some reason or other. These days, since I tend to spend much more time in my dreams than the waking world, instead of keeping a dream journal I keep a sort of thisworld journal which I use to keep from forgetting important things irl. I write before bed and read upon waking to reintegrate myself into this world.

      Good luck with time dilation guys, from my experience it has mostly been simply a case of much practice and much trial and error.
      Holy...shit! Man that sounds so awesome. I can't imagine how or what it's like to split your awareness! I guess I'll have to try that out in my next lucid. Wooow! But can you describe what it's like? Does it affect the quality of the dream(s) in any way? Is it difficult to experience the dream(s) in the same way it would be with one consciousness? The only thing I can imagine is "playing" a dream in splitscreen, though I'm sure it is not conceivable by the nonlucid/waking mind. I don't understand how you can split your consciousness and dream two dreams at the same time with the equal level of focus in both dreams. I can't wait to try it out! I'm very curious (and mindblown)!

      Oh and I've never seen DBZ, can you explain the hyperbolic time chamber tech a little more? From what I understood, you split your awareness, and let one meditate and focus on slowing time down? Is that what it's like?

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      Quote Originally Posted by HanZartaC View Post
      Holy...shit! Man that sounds so awesome. I can't imagine how or what it's like to split your awareness! I guess I'll have to try that out in my next lucid. Wooow! But can you describe what it's like? Does it affect the quality of the dream(s) in any way? Is it difficult to experience the dream(s) in the same way it would be with one consciousness? The only thing I can imagine is "playing" a dream in splitscreen, though I'm sure it is not conceivable by the nonlucid/waking mind. I don't understand how you can split your consciousness and dream two dreams at the same time with the equal level of focus in both dreams. I can't wait to try it out! I'm very curious (and mindblown)!

      Oh and I've never seen DBZ, can you explain the hyperbolic time chamber tech a little more? From what I understood, you split your awareness, and let one meditate and focus on slowing time down? Is that what it's like?
      Lol, its very hard to explain and very strange to experience at first. After a while it just becomes normal. At least for me it became normal, but I also spend way too much time in my dreams. Splitting awareness is pretty fun though and opens up doors to do all sorts of interesting things.

      Oh and about the dbz hyperbolic time chamber: Dragonball Z Kai: Goku & Gohan Training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (FULL) - YouTube

      Basically, it is completely cut off from the outside world, and time is distorted to where 1 day on earth = 1 year in the chamber.
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      For awhile, Raven and I had a series of what I call Multi-Dreams, where we were dreaming more than one dream simultaneously. This happened spontaneously. At first, we would write the varying storylines, but when I started dreaming five dreams at a time, it was too much to remember and write in my DJ. So, in my DJ, I only focus on one, though I still have multi-dreams regularly. I am not really sure why this started happening.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      For awhile, Raven and I had a series of what I call Multi-Dreams, where we were dreaming more than one dream simultaneously. This happened spontaneously. At first, we would write the varying storylines, but when I started dreaming five dreams at a time, it was too much to remember and write in my DJ. So, in my DJ, I only focus on one, though I still have multi-dreams regularly. I am not really sure why this started happening.
      That sounds very interesting.

      Welp, I kinda created my own un-tested simple Time Dilation technique. Can you guys test it for me tonight?

      Look at all your fingers. If you have weird hands and not ones that can be valid IRL, then just remember this and it will make sense later on. You can do your fingers by 2's, 3's, 4's, whatever you want. Not just one.

      Anyways, look at your hands. Count your fingers, and think and pretend that each finger is a second/minute/hour/day/year blah blah blah.

      Count the amount of fingers of how much seconds/minute/hour..etc that you want.

      Now, because this is untested, I found it would make sense to try to do seconds - hours.
      Yeah, you might be able to do it longer, but I bet it would make it so that you would have to stabilize every 5 seconds lol.
      Anyways, just do that and theoretically it should last for the normal time + the amount of fingers you counted.

      This is based on pretend, and pretending in a LD is basically real life.

      Try it guys, and gimme some results.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TwitchLucidity View Post
      That sounds very interesting.

      Welp, I kinda created my own un-tested simple Time Dilation technique. Can you guys test it for me tonight?

      Look at all your fingers. If you have weird hands and not ones that can be valid IRL, then just remember this and it will make sense later on. You can do your fingers by 2's, 3's, 4's, whatever you want. Not just one.

      Anyways, look at your hands. Count your fingers, and think and pretend that each finger is a second/minute/hour/day/year blah blah blah.

      Count the amount of fingers of how much seconds/minute/hour..etc that you want.

      Now, because this is untested, I found it would make sense to try to do seconds - hours.
      Yeah, you might be able to do it longer, but I bet it would make it so that you would have to stabilize every 5 seconds lol.
      Anyways, just do that and theoretically it should last for the normal time + the amount of fingers you counted.

      This is based on pretend, and pretending in a LD is basically real life.

      Try it guys, and gimme some results.

      That sounds like a variation of the walms method. So far I feel the time and space of the dream becoming a bubble that pops, once it pops I wake up. Recently I found that after counting I jumped up almost out of the bubble and the fabric of the dream slapped back and everything became hyper vivid, and the dream lasted about half an hour. Sometimes I will be tired after counting and fall asleep and then wake upin another long lucid dream.
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