Thread: Best thing to do when lucid? Nothing.

Originally Posted by Graech

That seems like a great idea! I think I'll try it in my next LD.

Also, though, there were a few things that I thought of while reading a couple of posts here:
First of all, I read DNK's post, "I like to know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not." I've always thought (at least subconsciously, without putting a name on the idea) that this is the true 'sixth sense,' the sense of knowing when one is awake. If you think about it for a while, you'll realize that you instinctively know when your awake, there's no question about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work to let you know when you're not awake, in fact that's what makes lucid dreaming so difficult.

The second idea is a bit more on topic. I always find it interesting when someone says, for example when slayer wrote, "Look at what your brain is making infront of you." I'm not saying that anything stupid was said, but instead that it seems strange is that you can look at what your brain/mind is creating in front of you when, theoretically, you are the mind, and therefore you are looking at what you are doing without actually doing or seeing it. Sort of like the saying, "Let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing." In fact, it adds another layer to this idea, where you are only one part of your being, and can only be that one part. In that assumption, would it not be to far a stretch to assume that there are other parts of your being watching at the same time, and other parts of your being, that watch when you create? I think I might make another thread devoted solely to this topic...

I think that is rather an interesting thought. I know what DNK means about watching what your brain creates in front of you. It's it feels like you are only part of your brain and you just exerience what the brain shows you. Because I am still in the early stages of getting to grip with LD, it's like I'm still not in control. I think in order to gain some kind of control, I need to just let things happen and watch them. Like letting my deeper part of my mind show me stuff, and get to know it better. Like some sort of deeper level of communication. Maybe thats whats makes all these people have a feeling of a more complete-ness in waking life? I don't really know, I am just rambling now. But this could be an interesting topic for all of us to talk about. I'm up for the new thread. xx

Actually, I don't think that "gaining control" and "just letting things happen" mean the same thing.

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Control is the absence of randomness, the absence of things "just happening."

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

Control is the absence of randomness, the absence of things "just happening."

Well, not always. If you're in control of your lucidity, and your consciousness, you can still just sit and watch things happen around you. You would technically be in control of your lucidity - just not the surroundings.

I just realised I do that a lot in reality I just sit down somewhere - I don't really care where, and day dream about stuff - I get great Ideas from that I'll try that in my next lucid. Or maybe before I sleep, looking at what things my mind shows me when I close my eyes... though I think I do that a lot when I try to fall asleep already XD

Originally Posted by DNK

How real is real here?

Excessive lucidity almost scares me. I like to know when I'm dreaming and when I'm not.

When I successfully pull off the Do Nothing technique, the dream becomes so clear and real that I truly can't tell that I'm dreaming anymore. I suppose it's what you're calling excessive lucidity. Yes, it can be scary.

Originally Posted by OnTheHorizon

I think LD's might be a way of finding the meaning of life? Think about it. Why is it so real. Why does it leave some people with a deeper meaningof their lives? I havn't yet been able to LD so please tell me about your experience of finding the meaning of life.

Do Nothing dreams have taught me a lot about the "meaning of life". It's hard to describe this without sounding cliche. I think the experience speaks for itself. You're in a dream and you Do Nothing until it stabilizes into a world indistinguishable from waking reality. What does this say about waking reality? Neither is more "real" than the other. We simply experience two general kinds of existence in this universe, which we name 'waking' and 'dreaming'. Both are opportunities to learn: how to create fulfilling experiences, how to develop will power, how to understand our relationship to others.

So on the subject of discovering the "meaning of life", I'll add to my original suggestion about Do Nothing... Once you're sitting still and quiet in your lucid dream, ponder on your waking life and see what insights occur to you.

I tried doing nothing a while back, I almost forgot I tried and I should have done it for longer. But it was rewarding to stop and feel a table and find that it felt exactly as it does in normnal life.

I tried doing that in a dream but It didn't work out here's the link where I posted it: http://dreamviews.com/community/show...0&postcount=12

Before I do this im gonna try and fly

Sounds more like dreaming to me.

I mean, it's not, but it's on a similar track.

Originally Posted by Expatasapien

Lucid Dreaming can get more real than waking life. I always talk about it in terms of resolution, thats essentially what it is. and the resolution can expand beyond the threshold of regular experience...as for why? My best hunch is that it is because all the sens data bypasses a need for input. Imagine for instance watching a streaming film on a low bandwidth connection Vs. watching a film that resides on your computer HDD. The one on your HDD will run more easily, and because it doesn't need to be piped through a bottlenecked channel of input it can run at a higher resolution.Similarly I think that because the sense data comes direct and doesn't need to be piped through the natural input pathways it is no longer limited to the constraints of those input channels. ....which is interesting because it suggests that the brain has greater ability to experience than the senses can provide for.

great explanation. its like not having the restriction of using eyes and you can have conscious attention on multiple items in the scene at the same time.

also some of my best lucids have been from just sitting back and observing. once when stood on top of a diving board in a diving contest in a river in a town, and once in a park and the trees just kind of parted to reveal the lake which i floated up over.great thread

Paying no attention to people sounds interesting. I have recently had my first longer full control lucid. I've analised the dream later and realised that even further stabilization and not minding what DC wanted me to do would be even better. I shall try to get total control, thanks for the post.

I don't think anyone can really put their mind around this, but even reality, is just a thought. So in essence, so what if you spent your entire life lucid dreaming, if you somehow can't tell the difference between the "real" world and the dream world. It's all the same.

Originally Posted by Pyramis

This may sound like the lamest advice you've ever heard, but bear with me for a moment.

Believe it or not, living out your wildest fantasies in living detail gets old after a while. When you wake up, you face the fact that all those sexy situations basically amount to masturbation. All those amazing conversations are just you talking to yourself. Sure, you gain access to creative and inventive parts of your consciousness that you don't normally connect to -- and don't get me wrong, that is wonderful and important! -- but you're still running up against the limits of your own mind.

It's time to go further.

The best part is, it's simple: Do nothing.

so true man. Plus, its really a requirement if youplan on doing anything else before waking up. Also, if you always do stuff, it won't seem real and exhilarating anymore. every now and then you just have to watch and stay still for a while.

Originally Posted by carolann1975

I think that is rather an interesting thought. I know what DNK means about watching what your brain creates in front of you. It's it feels like you are only part of your brain and you just exerience what the brain shows you. Because I am still in the early stages of getting to grip with LD, it's like I'm still not in control. I think in order to gain some kind of control, I need to just let things happen and watch them. Like letting my deeper part of my mind show me stuff, and get to know it better. Like some sort of deeper level of communication. Maybe thats whats makes all these people have a feeling of a more complete-ness in waking life? I don't really know, I am just rambling now. But this could be an interesting topic for all of us to talk about. I'm up for the new thread. xx

There's a sad thing about control.

The more control you have, the blander the dream becomes.

Originally Posted by thomulf

There's a sad thing about control.

The more control you have, the blander the dream becomes.

amen to that, and this sounds like a wonderful idea. I'm going to try this next. (after i fly high, and resolve some unfinished business with people / person)

And that's an awesome Hydralisk Avatar

Interesting concept. I'll have to try it out sometime.

Except that I have all of these other dream goals that I want to try out...

I'm doing this tonight.

Ill try this tonight. That is if im not by walmart

I shall try this tonight, too.

I'll give feedback.

i did this the other night on my couch after a false awakening. i was just sitting on the couch levitating different things and then walked around to see what else i could levitate. didn't do much in that dream at all but it was more vivid because i was just kinda sittin back and looking at everything .

boy i remember my last ld i just decided to mess with people and i found it kinda funner than all that supernatural stuff. I felt kinda like i was in the matrix

oh oops wrong thread

yea i did nothing because my memory was erased in my first ld and i actually found it really boring.

Got lucid last night, but I forgot about it
I'll do it tonight.

Another user mentioned "dream. Yoga" - do you have any knowledge or experience woth dream yoga or was this just your own idea? I've just begun my own conquest into the lucid dreaming min, but the most logical place I can imagine to start would be exactly what you suggest, calming and observing the minds parameters, build. My experience from the simple up to the extravagent. Yousaid whatss been on my mind recently, nice to know another person is on the same page