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      Actions that the real body does too

      The title isn´t the best, but anyway...

      What are the common things that you can do in a lucid dream that your body will do too at the same time?

      I mean, once in a lucid dream I wondered, do I breathe the "dream air", or better said the "hallucination air", OR does the feeling of breathing come from my body. So can I control the breathing of my real body when in a lucid?

      I also noticed that screaming can make my body scream.

      So, as said, what are the common things that you can do to make your body do it too?
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      I feel like when I breathe that I'm actually breathing in real life (I can smell the room I'm in).
      I have woken myself up by swallowing in a dream and then actually swallowing in real life.
      I've felt like intentional eye movements in dreams have followed over to real life.
      I've said things in dreams that have carried over to real life.
      Once I moved my hand toward my head for something (non-lucid) and woke up moving my hand toward my head.

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      Speaking (Happens to few people I know)
      Screaming like you said.
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      It depends on the point in the sleep cycle during which your dream is occurring, as well as your personal physiology. For the most part, none of us are going to be moving a whole lot except for our eyes during REM sleep (remember, REM= rapid eye movement), because of REM atonia. A few of us may sleep walk or talk or otherwise act out dreams during other stages of sleep, since the muscles aren't AS inhibited, or because they have a disorder.

      And here's a little sexy time from EWOLD:
      "One of the most dramatic demonstrations of the correspondence between physiology and dream activity came from studies of lucid dream sex. In 1983 we undertook a pilot study to determine the extent to which subjectively experienced sexual activity during REM lucid dreaming would be reflected in physiological reponses.
      Since women report more orgasms than men do, we began with a female subject. We recorded many different aspects of her physiology that would normally be affected by sexual arousal, including respiratin, heart rate, vaginal muscle tone, and vaginal pulse amplitude. The experiment called for her to make specific eye movement signals at hte following points: when she realized she was dreaming, when she began sexual activity (in the dream), and when she experienced orgasm.
      She reported a lucid dream in which she carried out the experimental task exactly as agreed upon. Our analysis revealed significant correspondences between the dream activities she reported in all but one of the physiological measures. During the fifteen-second section of her physiological record which she signaled as the jmoment of orgasm, her vaginal muscle activity, vaginal pulse amplitued, and respiration rate reached their highest values of the night, and they also were considerably elevated in comparison to the rest of the REM period. Contrary to expectation, heart rate increased only slightly." - p.16
      Only one woman, but, I trust LaBerge enough to generalize.

      "The experiments just reviewed supported the conclusion that the events you experience while asleep and dreaming produce effects on your brain (and, to a lesser extent, your body) much the same as if you were to experience the corresponding events while awake. Additional studies uphold this conclusion. When lucid dreamers hold their breaths or breathe fast in a dream, they really do hold their breaths or pant." p.16

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      Sleep paralysis is only partial, it doesn't affect muscle activity, breathing and eye movement. If you're running in a dream, you can wake up exhausted

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      Certainly, breathing isn't one of those, because nose RC don't works... Other than that, never heard that I talk/move while asleep from my sister (who sleeps in the same room) so truly dunno lol
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      I ejaculated 4 times in one night.. so thats something you can do lol
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      i kind of "know" when my actions affect my dream body, becuase i am in a very low level lucid and i feel that if i move to much in my Lucid i wiould move my body and wake up...so the whole dream was me imagiing things....it was not that fun.

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      I just hope my shouting doesn't carry over to my physical body...

      Nothing more embarassing than waking up the entire family with a "NEMESIS! I WILL DESTROY YOU WITH MY LIGHTNING POWERS!"

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      Or "END! I COMMAND YOU! NIGHTMARE END!!!!! OH SHIT!!! WHAT'S THAT?!?!?! AHHHH!!!!!!!!"

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      If you're already aware of this then completely disregard it, but it's a very interesting bit about the body when dreaming.

      While in the REM cycle the brain paralyzes the body so that we don't act on our dreams. During REM we don't even snore. There is supposed to be no muscle tension at all during REM, which results in the paralysis. It's a built in safety mechanism which will prevent your body from doing things such as leaping out of bed or going into a handstand while you do so in the dream. An important thing to note, however, is that during REM our brains are emitting Beta waves, similar to the ones emitted while awake. As a result it's incredibly easy to transition from REM to a waking state.
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      Quote Originally Posted by オースチン View Post
      If you're already aware of this then completely disregard it, but it's a very interesting bit about the body when dreaming.

      While in the REM cycle the brain paralyzes the body so that we don't act on our dreams. During REM we don't even snore. There is supposed to be no muscle tension at all during REM, which results in the paralysis. It's a built in safety mechanism which will prevent your body from doing things such as leaping out of bed or going into a handstand while you do so in the dream. An important thing to note, however, is that during REM our brains are emitting Beta waves, similar to the ones emitted while awake. As a result it's incredibly easy to transition from REM to a waking state.
      hmm then i guess for my next LD were i think i can move my real body if i try i will not care and just run in the dream world anyway to see if i move them in real life....

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      I'm a believer in anything being possible, but I'd be very interested to know if you do find a way to do this.

      In response to the person who mentioned waking up exhausted:
      this is attributed to the Beta brain waves that are emitted during REM sleep. You're brain emits Beta waves when you're awake as well. Lucid dreams to often or intensely can result in waking up exhausted simply because you mind feels as if it's been awake even while your body was asleep.
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      one time i did a reality check in my dream and i could feel my real body doing it, so my nose pinch didnt work that time(it usually does), but i knew i was dreaming anyway so i still became lucid because i could feel two bodies at the one time.

      i have sat up and stared at my dad on holiday while still dreaming one time, that scared the crap out of him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by John11 View Post
      I feel like when I breathe that I'm actually breathing in real life (I can smell the room I'm in).
      your room smells ??
      Insanity is the mind's only effective defense against reality.
      sometimes dreams are so good that it hurts to wake up... .

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      Quote Originally Posted by 12g951ad View Post
      your room smells ??
      it doesn't smell bad, but everything has a smell.
      My room just doesn't smell like a crisp winter landscape or a port storage area which are two places I've done the nose RC.

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      Quote Originally Posted by John11 View Post
      it doesn't smell bad, but everything has a smell.
      My room just doesn't smell like a crisp winter landscape or a port storage area which are two places I've done the nose RC.
      but it smells
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      sometimes dreams are so good that it hurts to wake up... .

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      Quote Originally Posted by 12g951ad View Post
      but it smells
      Maybe it smells like homemade cookies?

      Everything smells. Don't you go into someone else's house and smell their home? Whatever it smells like, it usually has a distinct scent, same with someone's (clean) clothes. Whether that's bad or good is up for the smeller to decide hahaha

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      Sympathic/Parasympathic activity goes on as well. If you run/jump in your dream your real body blood flow and heartbeat will increase, you can get an erection, your muscles might twitch etc. especially during early stages of sleep.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Maybe it smells like homemade cookies?
      it smells GOOD
      Insanity is the mind's only effective defense against reality.
      sometimes dreams are so good that it hurts to wake up... .

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      Thankfully my real body doesn't do everything my dream body does. I've used the restroom in dreams (and not irl, thank god), and I've also had a couple dreams where a bug or something flew into my mouth, and I spit to get it out. I woke up just as I had spit in the dream, but my pillow was completely dry.

      I've also had dreams where I fall and then I wake up with a flinch. I was at a friend's house the other day watching TV. It was a bit late and we were laying on her bed, and I fell asleep a little bit. As soon as I closed my eyes I was dreaming. I dreamed that I was riding my motorcycle down an empty road (just like I had done a few days before), and I had to stop really quickly. I flew over the handlebars and watched my feet inch ever closer to the pavement that was rushing by underneath me. I flinched really bad and woke up.

      I've had dreams about amazing smelling food, only to wake up and find that food in the kitchen.
      In my dream I was thinking, "I wonder if mom really did make food, or if this is just part of the dream..."

      Another one is when my next door neighbors had a giant trash-haul thing in their driveway (which is right outside my window) and were dumping crap in there. I heard all the heavy thuds and gravel sounds in my dreams.

      Orgasms also seem to carry over into reality.
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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      one time i did a reality check in my dream and i could feel my real body doing it, so my nose pinch didnt work that time(it usually does), but i knew i was dreaming anyway so i still became lucid because i could feel two bodies at the one time.

      i have sat up and stared at my dad on holiday while still dreaming one time, that scared the crap out of him.
      LOL that's hilarious.

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      I suspect your real breathing rate would match the breathing in your dreams.

      But any other actions other than that can just be considered the opposite of sleep paralysis. Sometimes the mechanism that stops you from moving doesn't shut off when you wake, causing sleep paralysis.

      In the same manner, sometimes that paralysis shuts off while you are still dreaming, and you thrash about or yell in your dreams.

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