Can one control the "Old Hag"

[hellohihello]

Like make it so it's pleasant If you know it's coming think of something or just a little old nice lady. I really don't want to experience it because I HATE scary movies. Only this isn't a movie it's like real but only an illusion, so I would hate it 1000x worse because it's in my face.

[Hukif]

Well since its supposed to work via expectation, I guess you can, just expect to see funny/beatiful things, tough I like the scary ones more lol

[hellohihello]

Cool I will try that tomorrow morning. I couldn't finish it because my leg moved out of my bed and I couldn't move it back, so I stopped. I was at the part with the electricity in my body so I was close I am guessing. ( never experienced it before ) Is it like a dream when it happens, since your eyes are closed?

[Elwood]

Hells yeah. I made that bitch give me a blowjob.

[Hukif]

From an old hag! Kinda disturbing to me <.< Anyway, I don't relate it much to dreams, just vivid hallucinations where you can't move your body.

[hellohihello]

From an old hag! Kinda disturbing to me <.< Anyway, I don't relate it much to dreams, just vivid hallucinations where you can't move your body. Since your eyes are closed all you here are the sounds. But when you see it in your mind, before it pops up you can probably modify it imo. Or relate the screams to to laughter or something very inappropriate if you know what I mean

[Hukif]

I suppose you can, tough the sensation is the best part in my opinion, images are kinda boring.

[shannyball]

I used to have sleep paralysis every night and even sometimes when I would nap it was really disturbing. I found it may have been do to being extreamly tired, what ever chemicals I was over doing at that point in my life and amazingly enough - drinking too much caffine! When I got regular sleep and cut out the chemicals and cut down on the coffee the noises and the paralysis slowed way down. The last time I had it happen I just decide not to let it scare me, and not to believe that there was something "evil" in the room with me. I breathed through it, and just decided to let myself drift back into sleep. I refused to to get scared, I just accepted the fact that I couldn't move and I made up my mind that the noises were in my head so I could let them in or not. I really believe that the kind of experiance it is -good or bad depends on your perseption of it becasue that makes the most difference.

[Jeff777]

Like make it so it's pleasant If you know it's coming think of something or just a little old nice lady. I really don't want to experience it because I HATE scary movies. Only this isn't a movie it's like real but only an illusion, so I would hate it 1000x worse because it's in my face. I had sex with her once. Not kidding. It's all a part of SP, no worries.

[hellohihello]

I had sex with her once. Not kidding. It's all a part of SP, no worries. She better have been a younger person But how did you control it?

[Jeff777]

She better have been a younger person But how did you control it? I mean it's not like she's sitting around the phone waiting on me to call or anything. It was a lucid dream that quickly lost it's level of lucidity...then came the old hag. Had it of been the other way around...such a thing never would have happened.

[hellohihello]

Darn I hate scary things

[The Cusp]

You could try putting a paper bag over her head...

[hellohihello]

I really wanted a visit from her to try it but I couldn't get in sleep paralysis just a deep deep relaxation. I thought what had been 20 min was an hour and 15 minutes, So I said forget this and tried to WBTB and couldn't fall asleep

[snoop]

So I said forget this and tried to WBTB and couldn't fall asleep It's actually best for me if I've woken up to WBTB and I can't go back to sleep right away. I remember the other night I couldn't go back to sleep after an hour, and I just said forget it. Some unknown amount of time later, I fell asleep. I then had a very vivid dream and woke up, told myself to notice when the environment changes, and I did. I had a 5 second DILD that I used to jump into a WILD after I woke up (I didn't use the dream itself, just the state of awareness and sleepiness at the same time. However, you could use the dream if you wanted, that's what DEILD is for).

[Jeff777]

You could try putting a paper bag over her head... I suppose that would make the sex bearable if that were to happen.

[hellohihello]

I suppose that would make the sex bearable if that were to happen. Not unless I make her hot

[juroara]

how can you have sex with the old hag when in a SP you can't move o_O? a SP isn't the same as a lucid dream, its not even really dreaming. its like dysfunctional dreaming. part of your brain is trying to wake up the other part is still asleep I dont think we expect the hag and thats why shes there shes a phenomenon of SP that everyone experiences whether or not they even know what SP is. that was certainly my case. I was having SP and being visited by the hag before I knew she was called the hag. Though really she is a he or a she or a group. for me its a he. its just a sensation that someone is putting pressure on you, and most of the time you don't see this something, though once fear sets in anything goes! in a real SP, you have ZERO control, you can't even move. the best thing to do is just fall back asleep into a proper dream, or a FA

[hellohihello]

How do I go from SP to FA? That is how my first LD started since joining.

[Jeff777]

its just a sensation that someone is putting pressure on you, and most of the time you don't see this something, though once fear sets in anything goes! This "pressure" associated with this old hag is what people thought up centuries ago. Today, it is being called a "lead blanket" by some LD'ers because the old hag term is rooted in superstition and therefore scared a lot of LD'ers. Being unable to move and feeling heavy pressure on you happens every night when SP comes on. Perhaps peoples fear of this when it happened was so strong (not knowing what it is) that their thoughts created a small witch like character that came over to their bedside and sat on their chest.

[ollei]

I've never really experienced the old hag, just wondering what's like? I imagine her to like the dude behind "winkes" in "Mulholland Drive"

[topten35]

I've experience her once when i use to get sp, i was laying in my father's old room in my old house, and i felt an invisible presence on me. I could actually feel something, but it was invisible, and furthermore it was actually a dream! It seemed real because the dream itself featured, me in the same clothes that i fell asleep in, in the same spot on the floor. And everything in the room was exactly the same. But i wasn't afraid i don't really have fear.

[moonshine]

I mean it's not like she's sitting around the phone waiting on me to call or anything. LOL. A Booty call?

[Neko-san]

I've experience her once when i use to get sp, i was laying in my father's old room in my old house, and i felt an invisible presence on me. I could actually feel something, but it was invisible, and furthermore it was actually a dream! It seemed real because the dream itself featured, me in the same clothes that i fell asleep in, in the same spot on the floor. And everything in the room was exactly the same. But i wasn't afraid i don't really have fear. Every one has fear in their dreams that's why nightmares are so frightening.

[frogeyes]

There isn't actually and old hag that appears though is there? I thought that was just and old term used to explain the pressure on your chest.