Thread: Does IQ Effect Dream Recall?

Originally Posted by crash

During my 6th period class, my teacher is a American History/Psychology teacher. Anyways, she likes to play with your mind or find playful ways to call you stupid. So, one day she askes one of the kids if he dreams alot. The kid says not really and she claims that people with higher IQ dream more.

Now, after viewing this site, it seems that you can train yourself to remember more dreams therefor not needing a high IQ.... I was just wondering what your imput was and if it does make a difference.

Hi, I don't think IQ has anything to do with dreaming. Dreaming is a subconcious process so it is irrelevent. If U happen to wake up just after a REM period U remember Ur dream.....if U wake up before or during other stages other than REM...U won't remember much if any so it's independant of IQ.....we all dream about the same REM periods. What some people do to 'dream more' is to wake up after every REM period which is about 90min after Ur head hits the pillow. U can try the timing I have 'discovered' it may give U are rough guide to Ur REM period... 1st REM- 90min, 2nd REM- 90min, 3rd REM- 90min, 4th REM- 60min, 5th REM- 60min......

IMJ

IMJ

I have a high IQ and remember lots of dreams but I don't think they are related. It depends more on how much you care about them and how you view them as well as physical things like imj mentioned. I'd say it's like art, you could make the argument that smart people would be better at it but that is obviously not the case alot of times.

BTW judging from what you said I bet your teacher doesn't remember many dreams.

Heh, I actually fit that pattern. I remember a lot of dreams and my IQ is 131.

But I agree with imj. Anyone can remember their dreams, no matter how smart they are. It has nothing to do with your intelligence, it has more to do with your sleeping patterns.

Originally Posted by crash

During my 6th period class, my teacher is a American History/Psychology teacher. Anyways, she likes to play with your mind or find playful ways to call you stupid. So, one day she askes one of the kids if he dreams alot. The kid says not really and she claims that people with higher IQ dream more.

Now, after viewing this site, it seems that you can train yourself to remember more dreams therefor not needing a high IQ.... I was just wondering what your imput was and if it does make a difference.

Your teacher is a piece of shit. Who says that to students? They are there to learn. What a pompous cock. Too bad he is wrong.

Thanks for your feedback guys... except for that last one. She happens to be very nice and we know she is only playing.

If it did i would be master/worst recaller with my 130 IQ :p

As others have said, people dream generally for the same amount. Maybe she meant smarter people sleep more? Which can be true--smart people don't have to stay up as late studying and such. Or perhaps smarter people know the value of sleep.

As for dream recall, IQ has nothing to do with it. IQ tests of today do not test short term memory--which is the basis of dream recall. I doubt short term memory measures intellegence, either. It only measures just that--short term memory.

I wouldn't think that having great dream recall means you have a high IQ, or remembering no dreams means you have a low IQ. However, I think it might be possible that having good dream recall could boost your IQ a few points.

I don't think a good or bad recall reveals a high or low IQ, but I believe (in fact, I'm pretty sure) that a person with a higher IQ will find it easier to recall his/her dreams when he goes for it. That because working on memories involves mental ability to process thoughts and to concentrate (both related to intelligence). Also, I think that by working o nyour dream recall, you will become better at remembering things, as well as making subconsicous htoughts conscious, which also constitute intelligence. So, yeah, dream recall is related to intelligence, but not innately.


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Just for comparison purposes, my IQ is of 160 and I could recall zero before working on it. So heh, as with anything, dream recall requires training.

I have an IQ of 146 (took one just the other day that somebody shoved at me haha... coincidence?) so that puts me in the top less than 2% of the population, and I have recall just like anybody elses that is great sometimes, and struggles others, and I can build it up just like anybody else. If your teacher is like you said he is and just screws with people, he probably knew, like us, that people that don't really train their recall don't remember very many dreams.

Before I ever came here and started training recall, mine was shit. So there.

I don't think IQ matters. I have an IQ of a 153. I've been training and some nights I can remember good and some nights I can't remember anything!

Dream Recall is a skill and like any other skill it takes practice and dedication. Some people may have a talent for it but I.Q. will have nothing to do with this.

Everybody has so big IQs. I did an English one on the internet claiming it was "real" and got 126, it's probably fake, but it's small anyway . I think I did it in school, but we never got any results.

I seriously doubt the IQ matters with dream recall. It most likely depends on your "memory skills".

I don't think that statement has any basis at all. I highly doubt that having a higher IQ realtes with dream recall or having dreams . Though she said " she claims that people with higher IQ dream more." It's been proven that everybody dreams everynight and everyone dreams 3+ more dreams in one night ( I think thats right, more then one anyway.) So, even with that said she is already wrong.

I think she probably meant in terms of recall.

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Everybody has so big IQs. I did an English one on the internet claiming it was "real" and got 126, it's probably fake, but it's small anyway . I think I did it in school, but we never got any results.

I seriously doubt the IQ matters with dream recall. It most likely depends on your "memory skills".

Heh, a bit out of topic, but I wouldn't trust these internet tests. In an attempt to sound "fair", they'll test the most ridiculous htings such as vocabulary, common knowledge and such. To me, those things are not intelligence, but knowledge.

If they wanted to test language, they should test grammar, which involves rational thinking heh.

But other than that, I think they're trustworthy.

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Now back on topic, yes, I think dream recall is connected to average memory, and therefore composes intelligence. That doesn't mean that not recalling your dreams makes you unintelligent, though heh - you're just not good in that area, but you could excel in another one.

just for everyones knowledge. Yes you IQ does matter. Smarter people tend to be able to control dreams more and are aware. People who are slow don't recall or control as good. Its because of the fact that people seem to not distinguish reality and dream. Come on think simply. You are in a place you have never been a guy talking to you that you don't know, and a monster behind him. Who would still think they are in a dream? People have nightmares all the time. Me when I have a nightmare its my key to catch myself almost 100% of the time

ps all the online tests are crap. give me one I'll prove it. My IQ is 155 in a tested environment. The online ones I always score like 175 aside from one that I got a 150. I looked at it and it said how many questions I missed. And its 0. If you want proof, pick a test I'll do it and record it on my camera as I do it. And then show you the score. 155 is real, 175 is not. online is off by 20 points. That is a huge flaw

Originally Posted by hercules71185

just for everyones knowledge. Yes you IQ does matter. Smarter people tend to be able to control dreams more and are aware. People who are slow don't recall or control as good

Do you have any proof to support that?

Well hercules, yes, lucidity is related to one of the many different areas of inteligence. But having a high (or low) IQ doesn't mean you excel (or not) in that area.

It's impossible to determine one's lucid ability out of IQ itself - it would need specific tests, but yeah it is possible.

IQ is directly related to memory (part of any standardized IQ test) so yes. Also, the more that your brain can process, the more vivid and detailed your dreams will be. It's like running a high end video game on a brand new computer and one with a 486 processor.

However, parts of the brain turn off during sleep, how much of it seems random. Someone with a 130 IQ with 20% of their brain shut off may have the same dreaming ability as person with a 100 IQ with 10% of the brain shut down.

Definately don't believe online IQ tests, take a real one under testing conditions. I took one at school a few years back. They don't give you the results but your parents can probably go see your permanant records and the score should be in there.

I don't think your IQ matters. I'm unintelligent, but I have very good dream recall, and I can manipulate my dreams, if I'm lucid enough. I also have bad short term memory.

I don't even think IQ scores are any kind of measurement for intelligence in the first place.
The system was developed in, like, the 19th century!

This whole topic is highly subjective. I happen to have a highly prolific dream-rate and very good dream dream-recall but dreams are only a small part of our brain's activity.
On top of that I'm seriously crappy at getting lucid. I think your teacher's overstepping her bounds.

It's impossible to say that dream-rate=intelligence when scientists can't even agree what intelligence actually is.