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? @PercyLucid:
Pefect. Let's get started
? @zebrah : ok
? @PercyLucid:
welcome all to the MILD classes
? @PercyLucid:
a pleasure sharing these with you all
? @PercyLucid:
the first class will be more of an intruduction to MILD and how to get started
? @PercyLucid:
I want you all to assist specially to the 2nd and 3rd class
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? @PercyLucid:
those two are the most important ones
? @PercyLucid:
but today we will start on the basics
? @PercyLucid:
first of all, do you all know what MILD means?
? @zebrah : yes
Zelgius : Yeah
? Arbitror : Yep.
limitless : yes
DawgBone : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
: theking : yep
? @PercyLucid:
good
? @PercyLucid:
I wan to talk a little about the difference between DILD and MILD
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @PercyLucid:
both of these are often confused
Spectrum : kind of
? @PercyLucid:
DILD and MILD are similar, but not the same
? @PercyLucid:
MILD is more of a daily work and focus (I will explain this today and in the upcomming classes)
? @PercyLucid:
and DILD is more random
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? @PercyLucid:
however, is true that working on certain things that are good for DILD, applies for MILD
? @PercyLucid:
one of the main difference
? @PercyLucid:
usually for DILD, you will just be doing RC during the day and intent to have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
with MILD you go a little beyond
? @PercyLucid:
with MILD you are focused in a certain type of dream, such as flying in a forest or going to the moon
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? @PercyLucid:
you are focused with different techniques
? @PercyLucid:
to turn lucid and dream the dream you are looking for
? @PercyLucid:
an easy example of these
? @PercyLucid:
are our Tasks of the Month
? @PercyLucid:
we all want to show off those flashy wings DV has
: theking : percy, I shot you a PM, but I have to leave
? @PercyLucid:
and access to the lucid task club
? @PercyLucid: ok theking
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? @PercyLucid:
so without noticing
? @PercyLucid:
we are focused in completing these tasks
? @PercyLucid:
you will know better specially on the second class when I talk about dream incubation
? @PercyLucid:
which is one of the foundations to MILD
? @PercyLucid:
however, today I want to touch a little of the basics
? @PercyLucid:
do you all have a current dream journal?
Spectrum : Yep
limitless : yes
DawgBone : yes
Zelgius : Yes
? Gamecheater : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
Spectrum : I don't make it public though
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @zebrah : yes
? Arbitror : A work in progress.
CrimsonStorm : Haven't had the best recall the past few nights, though.
Spectrum : I can say the same.
? @zebrah : I keep mine on my itouch and posts lucids on DV
Alsroge : yessir.
? @PercyLucid:
excellent
? @PercyLucid:
dream journals, and these is explained for sure on every single course
? @PercyLucid:
are our most important tool
? @PercyLucid:
we need to recorgnize our dreams to increase our chances in turning lucid
? @PercyLucid:
this helps for DILD and also for MILD
? @PercyLucid:
so a journal is a must to keep
? @PercyLucid:
how about a waking journal?
? @PercyLucid:
waking usually has a lot to do with MILD
? @zebrah : No sir
? Andromeda155 : Nope
Zelgius : Nope
Spectrum : can't say I have
? Arbitror : Nope.
limitless : no, but would be easy
DawgBone : no
? Gamecheater : What is a waking journal? Just doucmenting what we do while awake?
? @PercyLucid:
a waking journal is not a must, but sometimes it helps, specially if you have a lot of things going on
? @zebrah : Yes
CrimsonStorm : Not here, either.
? @zebrah : @ Gamecheater
? @PercyLucid:
well, Gamecheater, sometimes we are flooded by waking thoughts, problems in work, school, with parents, wife, husband, kids.. etc
? @PercyLucid:
some times is good to dispose of those thoughs. That will be covered with the Chest technique
? @PercyLucid:
explained on the 3rd class
? @PercyLucid:
a waking journal is not a must, but writting all your thoughs before going to bed, sometimes help
? @PercyLucid:
now
? @PercyLucid:
I want to know from each of you
? @PercyLucid:
what do you usually do/think right before going to bed, let's say, 5 minutes before laying down and first 5 minutes in bed
? Andromeda155 : First 5: get ready for bed (i.e. brush teeth, etc.)
Spectrum : shal we go in alphabetical order?
? Gamecheater : Obviously what I did during the day and what Im going to do when I wake up.
Zelgius : I always am fascinated while falling asleep with wondering what I will end up dreaming about
DawgBone : I try to think about dreaming, recall and lucidity
? @zebrah : I think about dreams a lot.
? Andromeda155 : Second 5: relax in bed, don't think about anything in particular.
? @zebrah : Also about day to day life
Spectrum : Actually, I usually just read until my mind goes blank or I fall asleep
? Arbitror : I usually am on the phone with my girlfriend before bed, then I hang up an began focusing on dreaming.
CrimsonStorm : I'm usually reading right before bed, as that kind of helps me relax. Sometimes, if there's something I need to remember to do in the morning, I think about that, but otherwise, mostly just about what I'm reading. Can be anything from non-fiction to high fantasy.
limitless : first 5, different all the time. mostly about my day. second 5, hoping to have a LD and good RC
limitless : recall*
? @zebrah : First 5 is writing down dreams
? @PercyLucid:
I see most of you are in shape
? @PercyLucid:
well done
? @PercyLucid:
for MILD is CRUCIAL to be focused on lucid dreaming
CrimsonStorm : Right now, reading about lucid dreaming, so that works.
? @PercyLucid:
as I said before, the more mentally focused you are, the greater MILD will work for you
? Gamecheater : It's difficult to be focused on dreaming when your reality seems so amazing.
Zelgius : Oh phew! I always thought I was harming my chances by thinking too much about LDs!
? @PercyLucid:
WBTB: Time for a Reality Check. Are you dreaming?
? @PercyLucid:
Specially who is WBTBing now
Spectrum : got it
? @zebrah : No not right now
? @PercyLucid:
there are several, several thing that will help to increase the chances of MILD
? @PercyLucid:
that is why the ToTM are so important
? @PercyLucid:
is more of a mental exercise for we all to keep focused on the topic
? @PercyLucid:
with a reward (the wings and orange nick)
? @PercyLucid:
the human mind works better if there is a goal and or reward
? @PercyLucid:
having a goal/rewards help us greatly to be focused in the topic
? @PercyLucid:
being focused in the topic increases a lot to MILD
? @PercyLucid:
there are a few big NO(s) to do before going to bed
? @PercyLucid:
and some of you are not going to like it!
? @PercyLucid:
1st- TV. TV is one of the LD nemesis
DawgBone : interesting
? @PercyLucid:
watching TV right before going to bed... no good
CrimsonStorm : I can live with that one. Don't watch much TV anyways.
? Gamecheater : Same. I dont own a TV actually.
? @PercyLucid:
of course, we all love TV, but turn it off 10-15 minutes before going to bed
? @PercyLucid:
why?
Spectrum : easy enough
? @PercyLucid:
well
? @zebrah : yeah I don't watch to much YB
? Gamecheater : What about computer before bed?
? @zebrah : TV*
DawgBone : You don't want to dream about TV images
? @PercyLucid:
the TV uses our right side of the brain, which is the opposite to the left side of the brain
? @PercyLucid:
when we watch TV, we are very receptive
? @PercyLucid:
that is why all the announcements and stuff we see
? @PercyLucid:
when we watch TV, we "accept" all we see as an alternate reality
? @PercyLucid:
which is what happens in dreams too
? @PercyLucid:
and we do NOT want to accept the reality of a dream
? @PercyLucid: Fernando Albert
? @PercyLucid: KSS International, Inc
? @PercyLucid:
[email protected]
? @PercyLucid: upsss
? @PercyLucid:
but
? @PercyLucid:
we want to question the reality of a dream, to turn lucid
? @PercyLucid:
so, TV before going to bed... no no no
? @PercyLucid:
computers..
? @PercyLucid:
they are fine
? @PercyLucid:
whenever you stay on topic
? @PercyLucid:
and you do not "watch TV" in your computer
? Gamecheater : I usually play computer games before bed. 3d games with realistic graphics.
? @PercyLucid:
using your computer is fine
Spectrum : Oh, here's a question
Spectrum : how about video games?
Spectrum : oh
? @PercyLucid:
videogames are good for LD, somehow
? @PercyLucid:
hold old
? @PercyLucid:
on
Spectrum : yeah, just in a general sense
CrimsonStorm : Really?
CrimsonStorm : Huh, wouldn't have guessed.
? @PercyLucid:
Computer is great before going to sleep, specially if you are in topic related boards such as DV
Zelgius : good as in beneficial, or good as in they do no harm?
? @PercyLucid:
one important thing you do
? @PercyLucid:
10 minutes before going to bed and while falling asleep
? @PercyLucid:
you want to be as focused in LDing as possible
? @PercyLucid:
and I will say why
? @PercyLucid:
do you guys know what daily residue is?
limitless : yes
? Andromeda155 : No
DawgBone : yes
Zelgius : No
Spectrum : No
CrimsonStorm : I could guess, I think, but haven't heard that exact wording before.
? @zebrah : Yes
? @PercyLucid:
ok
? @PercyLucid:
daily residue is basically, with my own words... stuff we have been doing all the day, is stored in our minds
? @PercyLucid:
there is a chance to dream something related or overally to a daily residue memory
? @PercyLucid:
MILD benefits extremely from daily residue
? @PercyLucid:
that is why the more focus you are in LDing the greater the chances are
? @PercyLucid:
as when you incubate a dream, focus in lucidity, read a book about LDing, you create "lucid" residue
? @PercyLucid:
I am sure some of you, dream sometimes about turning lucid, or lucid related stuff, but without being really lucid
Spectrum : I've done it once or twice
? @PercyLucid:
well, that is good
? @PercyLucid:
well
? @zebrah : Well
? @PercyLucid:
our last thoughts of the day
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, me too.
? @PercyLucid:
are the most important ones before going to sleep
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @PercyLucid:
other big no no no before going to be
? @PercyLucid:
is thinking about our daily issues (school tests, business goals, work, house hold issues, etc)
? @PercyLucid:
and I know this is hard
? @PercyLucid:
but with practise
? @PercyLucid:
it can be done
Zelgius : Dang, I'm REALLY guilty of that...
? @PercyLucid:
I will explain this in the second class more deeply
? @PercyLucid:
usually, when we go to bed
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, I'm pretty bad about that.
? @PercyLucid:
our mind starts to rewing all our issues and we basically scew all dream related stuff
? @PercyLucid:
One important thing before going to bed
? @PercyLucid:
is to AFFIRM we are going to have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
our voice is more powerful than we imagine
? @zebrah : Yeah
? @zebrah : "The next time I am dreaming I will realize I am dreaming"
? @PercyLucid:
and the fact of saying, "I lucid dream" is like an order for our subsconscious
? @PercyLucid:
too long zebrah!
? @zebrah : Aww
? @zebrah : That one works for me
? @PercyLucid:
we want to affirm, use it as a mantra, but something short
? @PercyLucid:
yeah, each people will find their very best mantra
? @zebrah : Yeah
? @PercyLucid:
but I like to recommend to start with some brief
? @zebrah : I went through a lot
? @PercyLucid:
It is also important
? @PercyLucid:
to stay positive and focused
? @PercyLucid:
and with positive I mean'
? @PercyLucid:
trully believing in yourselfs
? @PercyLucid:
affirming you will have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
and reality believe it
? @PercyLucid:
Did you at least had one lucid dream?
Spectrum : technically, 3
? @zebrah : Yes
limitless : no
Zelgius : Yeah
DawgBone : yes
CrimsonStorm : Ever? Yes.
Spectrum : but they all ended before i could really do anything
? Gamecheater : No.
CrimsonStorm : Two since I've started actually trying to.
Spectrum : these were all in august, since i joined DV
? Arbitror : Very low level, and then my dad ruins them in-dream. :/
? Andromeda155 : I think so. Like, a long time ago there was an asteriod coming towards a boat I was in and when i thought about moving it it turned around... Does that qualify?
CrimsonStorm : Four or five others before.
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limitless : i can suggest things in my dreams too, but thats not a LD to me
? @PercyLucid:
OK. That is not a problem
? @PercyLucid:
for people who had a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
while you are falling asleep
? @PercyLucid:
recall that feeling you had when you turned lucid
? @PercyLucid:
that also helps
? @PercyLucid:
for people who did not have one yet
? @PercyLucid:
focus on the thrill of waking up the next day and feeling so excited about your first lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
it is very important to stay focused
limitless : will do
? @PercyLucid:
and to stay positive
? @PercyLucid:
it will be easier as day passes
? @zebrah : I'm gunna afk for a bit I'll be watching
Zelgius : But if I concentrate of the excitement I felt when I went lucid then won't I have a hard time falling asleep thinking of so much emotion?
? @PercyLucid:
and once you realize to see it works, the chances will skyrock for you
? @PercyLucid:
excellent question Zelgius
? @zebrah : brb
? @PercyLucid:
Strong emotions are not good for falling asleep or balancing a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
however
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? @PercyLucid:
get your excitement to the point you can smile, but your heart does not race
? @PercyLucid:
you will fall asleep, trust me
Zelgius : Thanks
? @PercyLucid:
I woke up in the middle of the night
Zelgius : k
? @PercyLucid:
after completing a ToTM and beating an old dude who I have not seen around DV for weeks
? @PercyLucid:
I wrote the thing down in the DJ and went back to bed, I fell asleep
Spectrum : heh.
? @PercyLucid:
try to feel excited, but not thrilled
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? @PercyLucid:
you want to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid:
do not forget that
? @PercyLucid:
it is good to focus on a goal, and I will took about that in a later class with more detail
? @PercyLucid:
but
? @PercyLucid:
Tell me
? @PercyLucid:
why do you want to turn lucid? This is something important
? @PercyLucid:
why do you want to be lucid in your dreams?
Zelgius : To explore my subconscious
? @zebrah : Because I want to explore the possibilities of my kind
DawgBone : It is an alternate reality
limitless : i want to fly, and FEEL something different
Spectrum : Probably because i know from past experience how amazing it feels
CrimsonStorm : I want to be able to do things that are impossible in real life.
CrimsonStorm : And what spectrum said.
? Gamecheater : To learn more about my subconcious, and to explore the concepts of a dream plane.
Spectrum : There's also a few dream goal's I've become somewhat obsessed with
? @zebrah : mind*
Spectrum : goals*
? Arbitror : My imagination leads to me wish I could do many things. Lucid dreaming is the only way I can do most of them.
? @PercyLucid:
good, good, good
? @PercyLucid:
I liked how fast you did reply
? @PercyLucid:
if you have no reason to turn lucid, you wont
? Andromeda155 : It will give me access to myself and let me do things that would be impossible in reality
? @PercyLucid:
but you all do
? Andromeda155 : sorry for the late response
? @PercyLucid: no problem
? @PercyLucid:
which is great
? @PercyLucid:
you want to keep focused on those goals
? @PercyLucid:
for now
? @PercyLucid:
I will explain how to set some archieble goals in a later class
? @PercyLucid:
it is very important for your mind and subsconscious to see some progres
? @PercyLucid:
and you guys named a few hard ones
? @PercyLucid:
feeling freedom and doing what you want without boundries
? @PercyLucid:
it is an excellent goal to be focused on
? @PercyLucid:
when the 4th class is over
? @PercyLucid:
you will be doing this on a regular basis almost without thinking about it
? Gamecheater : What about speaking to your subconcious? There was one time where I was lucid and I asked someone to help me find my subconsious and I felt a dark feeling, and the dream ended.
? @PercyLucid:
and without thinking about it, I mean, you will focus yourself without reminding you to do so
? @PercyLucid:
Gamecheater that is a major goal. Requires some level, but if you had some lucids and you really want to accomplish that, hang on it
? @PercyLucid:
that is a little hard to incubate
? @PercyLucid:
however
? @PercyLucid:
once we get to incubation
? @PercyLucid:
and goal setting
? @PercyLucid:
if you really want to focus on that goal
? @PercyLucid:
you can PM and we will work on it together
? Gamecheater : Arlight, thanks.
? @PercyLucid:
that requires to be super lucid though
? @PercyLucid:
and I did not explain that... I think it will be good
? @PercyLucid:
some people will not agree with me
? @PercyLucid:
however
? @PercyLucid:
I read this over Robert Waggonner's book
? @PercyLucid:
I really recommend that book to read
CrimsonStorm : What's the title?
? @PercyLucid:
do not remember well the title, but send me a PM and I will ge the book and let you know
CrimsonStorm : Will do.
? @PercyLucid:
thanks to that book I accomplished major goals while lucid
? @zebrah : PercyLucid: You should start a deep dreaming tutorial on it
? Gamecheater : It's called Lucid Dreaming:Gateway to inner self
? @PercyLucid:
yep
? @PercyLucid:
that one
? @PercyLucid:
thanks Gamecheater
? @zebrah : Nice
CrimsonStorm : Thanks
? @PercyLucid:
read it, believe or not, you can find it in your local library
? @PercyLucid:
so
? @zebrah : really
? @PercyLucid:
let's recall
? @PercyLucid:
but before
? @PercyLucid:
reality check time
Zelgius : Oh! and if you have a kindle/ipad you can get it from amazon as an ebook for 9.99!
? @zebrah : done
? @zebrah : Nce
? @zebrah : nice*
CrimsonStorm : Very nice.
limitless : fancy gadgets
? @PercyLucid:
perfect
limitless : reccomended RC?
? @PercyLucid:
so, to recall the do's and don'ts
? @PercyLucid:
well, that is zebrah's class
? @PercyLucid:
but
? @PercyLucid:
hand check is the most efficient usually
? @zebrah : wait
? @zebrah : Lol
? @PercyLucid:
then try to jump, gravity will fail
limitless : palm poke, nose plug, and hand check? thats what i do
CrimsonStorm : Or nose-plug check
CrimsonStorm : if you can't see anything
? @zebrah : If you want a brief RC overview you can stay later
? @zebrah : I'll give one
limitless : okay, thanks
Zelgius : Thanks!
? @zebrah : A freebee
? @PercyLucid:
So, your last minutes before going to be, should be as follows
Spectrum : I think I'm pretty clued up on the different checks
? @zebrah : Afk for bit
? @PercyLucid:
forget about TV... that is period. Keep up focused as much as possible on LDing
? @PercyLucid:
do not recall waking thoughs (not for this week, next week we will recall them with other purpose)
? @zebrah : Spectrum: its not just different checks but how to do then effectively
? @PercyLucid:
try to recall that feeling of lucidity
? @PercyLucid:
if unknown, focus on how great it would be to fly and do whatever you want
? @PercyLucid:
try to fall asleep and repeat a mantra that you can believe
? @PercyLucid:
such as, "I lucid dream"
? @PercyLucid:
it is very important
? @PercyLucid:
to say it in present tense
? @PercyLucid:
might sound silly, but if you always say "I will" you are sending a message to your subsconscious to LD in the future
Spectrum : Ah, this reminds me of uh
Spectrum :
Couéism - definition of Couéism by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
? @PercyLucid:
do not either say "I will lucid dream tonight"
? @PercyLucid:
setting such a hard goal will end up into frustation
CrimsonStorm : About mantras... how does that work, exactly? Do you say it to yourself as you're falling asleep, as long as you can? It seems like the type of thing that would keep me awake.
? @zebrah : It is very relaxing
? @PercyLucid:
"I lucid dream" is one great mantra. Other good mantra is "I will lucid dream tonight or very soon" You are using future tense, but for a short time period. The "very soon" is a good refresher if you did not lucid dream that single night
? @PercyLucid:
ok
? @PercyLucid:
say it to yourself while you are falling asleep
? @PercyLucid:
you can talk it or think it
Zelgius : Say it out loud or in your head? and how much should you actually focus on the meaning of it? will your mind grasp it if you just keep repeating "I lucid dream" without much thought to it?
? @PercyLucid:
the subsconscious will read your thoughts
? @zebrah : We can also say it durring the day correct
? @PercyLucid:
yes zebra
CrimsonStorm : Wellll, when I've done not exactly mantras, but counting or other repetative mental things like that tend to keep me from falling asleep. Not sure why.
? @PercyLucid:
of course, you should believe it
? @PercyLucid:
do not see it fast and without being focused
? @PercyLucid:
I have a very good induction technique, to aid MILD
? @PercyLucid:
focusing on a beach
? @PercyLucid:
and the waves
? @PercyLucid:
but I will explain that next week
? @zebrah : K
CrimsonStorm : Alright, then.
? @PercyLucid:
all you want to do
? @PercyLucid:
is say your mantra
? @PercyLucid:
while you say it
? @PercyLucid:
feel excited about it or feel that "lucid feeling"
? @PercyLucid:
the more you believe it, the better, I want to insist with this
? @PercyLucid:
in fact
? @PercyLucid:
the 2nd class is almost the most important
? @PercyLucid:
because I will talk about the daily focus
? @PercyLucid:
dream incubation
? @PercyLucid:
how to stay possitive
? @PercyLucid:
how to celebrate your goals before even archieving them
? @PercyLucid:
MILD is about this... it does not cost money, you do not have to be laying in bed an hour to WILD... all you need is your mind and trust yourself
? @PercyLucid:
and as the classess progress
? @PercyLucid:
you will realice you are better that you think you are
? @PercyLucid:
you just need to use your mind the proper way
? @PercyLucid:
OK
? @PercyLucid:
So any question about MILD and the differences it has with DILD?
Zelgius : Yes
Zelgius : After waking up, how exactly can we tell the difference between a MILD and a DILD?
? @zebrah : Because the MILD happens when you realize you are dreaming
Zelgius : Like for purposes if you wanted to record what type of induction you used
? @zebrah : either naturally or because of your dream scene
? @PercyLucid:
it is easy yet hard to explain right now
? @PercyLucid:
mmmm
? @PercyLucid:
when we have more classes
Zelgius : Is it one of those things that you'll know when it happens?
? @PercyLucid:
you will do some exercises
? @PercyLucid:
while WBTB
? @zebrah : Once you have a MILD it is easier to tell
DawgBone : Is a MILD always oriented toward a specific task? I will fly tonight, etc.
? @zebrah : Zelgius: Yeah if you are doing mantras and what not then you become lucid randomly it's a MILD
? @PercyLucid:
then, if you go to bed in the middle of the night (wake back to bed) you are focused on driving a red hover inside a volcanp
? @PercyLucid:
and you will lucid dream yes or yes (non lucid is not an option)
? @PercyLucid:
when you wake up the next day
? @PercyLucid:
and realize you had your lucid
CrimsonStorm : DILDing is primarily based on layering reality checks on during the day, and then, based on doing that so often during the day and daily residue, reality checking when you are dreaming, which will, of course, fail.
CrimsonStorm : From what I understand.
? @PercyLucid:
you should thanks to MILD
? @PercyLucid:
if you did not do your homework and you have been all day thinking in all but lucidity, but you still had a lucid
? @PercyLucid:
it is a DILD
? @PercyLucid:
plus
? @zebrah : CrimsonStorm: Sort of but just daily residue may not make you lucid
? @PercyLucid:
that is correct zebrah
? @PercyLucid:
and at the same time is not
? @zebrah : It can be
Zelgius : I think he means residue from your RCing throughout the day
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
? @zebrah : I mean daily residue from reality checks
? @PercyLucid:
MILD uses a lot of daily residue, so it takes a good help from it
? @PercyLucid:
oh... well... always helps a little, but is not enough
? @PercyLucid:
you might dream you do a RC and not turn lucid
? @zebrah : RC daily residue can set you up yo fail
? @zebrah : Yeah that tends to happen
? @PercyLucid:
because you are not really doing a RC but dreaming you are
? @PercyLucid:
this is a little hard to explain
? @PercyLucid:
but
? @PercyLucid:
when you do a RC in a dream
? @PercyLucid:
your awareness is on the edge of lucidity
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, I see what you're saying.
? @PercyLucid:
all you need is to see seven fingers to make sure
? @PercyLucid:
like one dream I had time ago
? @PercyLucid:
my cat was a kitty and all black
? @PercyLucid:
that told me I was already dreaming
? @PercyLucid:
and I prove it with the RC
? @zebrah : right
? @PercyLucid:
but the RC itself does not induce the dream
? @PercyLucid:
but my different cat did
? @zebrah : They also stabilize
? @PercyLucid:
you need to RC through the day
? @PercyLucid:
specially if you see odd stuff
? @zebrah : Awareness is key to reality checks
? @PercyLucid:
to increase awareness
? @PercyLucid:
yep, sometimes they do
? @zebrah : Homework for today percy?
? @PercyLucid: yep
? @PercyLucid:
I am sure most of you have your DJ here
? @PercyLucid:
but I want to track your work
limitless : yes
? @PercyLucid:
so I need you
? @PercyLucid:
to create a thread
? @zebrah : In student workbooks
? @PercyLucid:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f86/
? @PercyLucid:
you will set your post as
? @PercyLucid:
MILD-1 Zebrah's Workbook
? @PercyLucid:
using your own nickname of course
? @zebrah : Right
? @PercyLucid:
even if you cannot record dreams
? @zebrah : I can change the title of anyone who already made one
Spectrum : Ah, I already made mine
? Gamecheater : Same.
? @PercyLucid:
I want you to write down how did oyu feel during the day (brief no need to go in detail)
? @PercyLucid:
and also
? @zebrah : ok do you need a name change
Spectrum : I still haven't updated it though; i was waiting until the first class
? @PercyLucid:
AND PLEASE DO THIS, it is important
Spectrum : right now?
? @PercyLucid:
write what you did before going to bed and specially, your focus while trying to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid:
you will do this daily if possible
? @zebrah : If anyone wants their thread changed tell me
Spectrum : Ah, I see.
? @PercyLucid:
do not feel ashemed if you were flooded by problems
limitless : okay
? @PercyLucid:
it is OK, we are all here to learn
? @PercyLucid:
so if you could not stop thinking abou that test or that customer... it is OK, post it too
? @PercyLucid:
that way I can give advice
? @zebrah : k
? @PercyLucid:
I have been doing that with my previous students and worked very well
? @PercyLucid:
Also
? @PercyLucid:
questions will arise
? @PercyLucid:
post them in your workbook so I can answer them
? @zebrah : Folks I hate to do this but I cannot do the RC overview after this class
limitless : ah, okay
? @zebrah : PM me if you are interested
? @PercyLucid:
and try if you have time, to read among your own workbooks
? @PercyLucid:
so you stick up like a team
? @zebrah : I'll try at a later date
? @zebrah : Ok I g2g sorry thanks percy
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? @PercyLucid:
and each of you have their bests and worse, so it is good to share so among yourselves you will get ideas
limitless : bye zeeb
? @PercyLucid:
I want to remind, that next class is very very important
? @PercyLucid:
please do not miss it, it will be the most intense and it will last around 2 hours with questions (there will be)
? @PercyLucid:
I said 1:30 last class and it went over 2h
? @PercyLucid:
but next class
Spectrum : Whoa
? @PercyLucid:
you will get a lucid goal to meet
? @PercyLucid:
and I can almost assure
CrimsonStorm : Alright, then.
Spectrum : I already have a couple of things in mind actually
? @PercyLucid:
you will accomplish it or at least have several nearmisses
Spectrum : but i'll leave it for next week
? @PercyLucid:
well, keep them for this week if you like
? Andromeda155 : Awesome
? @PercyLucid:
because next week you will remove those from your mind
? @PercyLucid:
sorry, but I will make sure you are all focused in the lucid dream I am going to set
limitless : wicked
? @PercyLucid:
it will be something easier that the Basic task of the month
Spectrum : Okay, cool
? @PercyLucid:
do not worry
? @PercyLucid:
practially turning lucid will be enough
CrimsonStorm : Just for curiousity's sake, about how many of your students from your last class ended up having LD's by the end of the course? Most of them?
? @PercyLucid:
but it will require minor dream control and a scenery (so you will practise incubation)
? @PercyLucid:
most of them had
? @PercyLucid:
and all had improvements
? @PercyLucid:
they increased those "near miss" lucid dreams
? @PercyLucid:
however, I have a small warning
? @PercyLucid:
its possible to experience a slight decrease on dream recall
? @PercyLucid:
at the beginning
? @PercyLucid:
some of you, maybe are trying to increase dream recall
? @PercyLucid:
you will now be more focused on LD and MILD
? @PercyLucid:
and less focused on Dream Recall
limitless : okay
Spectrum : Alright
? @PercyLucid:
so do not worry if you decrease recall
? @PercyLucid:
you will need to assimilate the new stuff
? @PercyLucid:
and then it will go up and improve by itself
? @PercyLucid:
that is something I learned from previous class
? @PercyLucid:
and now, is time for questions about what we talked about today. If any
Zelgius : Should we try to WBTB tonight? Or sleep as normal until you tell us otherwise?
Spectrum : I have a question, but brb
? Arbitror : Is it bad to try to MILD and WILD in the same night?
? Gamecheater : Anything for us to try tonight before we go to sleep? I'm going to try "I will lucid dream" as a mantra. Anything else?
Spectrum : Present tense :U
? @PercyLucid:
Zelgius, you can if you like. But I will get into deep detail on Third Class about WBTB
limitless : "I Lucid Dream"
? @PercyLucid:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f85/mild-1-syllabus-103467/
? @PercyLucid:
that is our syllabus
Spectrum : Ok, I have a question but it might be a bit vague
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? @PercyLucid:
Arbitror no it is not
? @PercyLucid:
in fact
? @PercyLucid:
MILD will aid WILD
? DreamHacker : Somebody told me this class was in MILD 1 so I waited there for 2 hours ugh
CrimsonStorm : And vice-verca, I've found as well.
? DreamHacker : Sorry Percy
Spectrum : Lucid aids like binaural beats of isochronic tones:
CrimsonStorm : For me, at least.
Spectrum : yes or no?
? @PercyLucid:
most people fail wild because they are expecting the SP and HH and they do not fall asleep at all. If you focus on your mantra while WILDing you increas the chances of it
? @PercyLucid:
Well Gamecheater, yes
? @PercyLucid:
from today I want you to follow the DO's and DONT's before and while in bed
? @PercyLucid:
that is a got chuck to start with
? @PercyLucid:
your minds (well, all minds)
? @PercyLucid:
are stubborn and at the beginning will be hard to focus
? @PercyLucid:
so its some good work to get used ot focusing
? Gamecheater : Alright.
? @PercyLucid:
no problem DreamHacker
? @PercyLucid:
I will send you the Syllabus
? DreamHacker : Thanks percy for being so forgiving
? @PercyLucid: I mean
? @PercyLucid:
the logs xD
? @PercyLucid:
but please
? @PercyLucid:
do not miss next class
? @PercyLucid:
it is the most important one
? @PercyLucid:
in the previous class
? DreamHacker : Of corse now I know where it is
? @PercyLucid:
it made a difference with whom came
? @PercyLucid:
OK. Time for more questions. If any
Spectrum : You didn't answer mine
? DreamHacker : What did you guys cover
? @PercyLucid:
sorry did not see it
? @PercyLucid:
well... I never tried those tones
Zelgius : Do you want us to keep our DJs on the DV system? I'm not sure exactly how it works, is it okay if the DV DJ system is used to enter in it every day?
? @PercyLucid:
I think the mind is powerful enough
? @PercyLucid:
without aids
? @PercyLucid:
however
? @PercyLucid:
if you have a hard time to sleep
? @PercyLucid:
they will definitely help you to calm down
? @PercyLucid:
and if they makes sounds during your dream and you realize
? @PercyLucid:
you got a lucid
? @PercyLucid:
but that is an EILD nothing to do with MILD
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? @PercyLucid:
You can use it of course
Spectrum : Ok, thanks
? @PercyLucid:
you can make a link to it in your workbook
? @PercyLucid:
but I want to access them from your workbooks, along with what I mentioned before
? @PercyLucid:
I want also to ask you folks
? @PercyLucid:
to read the Comment Box
? @PercyLucid:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f81/comment-box-96881/
? @PercyLucid:
and to post on it for the sake of future students
? DreamHacker : What did you guys cover
? @PercyLucid:
and do not forget to keep up with your workbooks!
? @PercyLucid: Basic Introductions
? @PercyLucid: - What is MILD.
? @PercyLucid: - Differences between MILD and DILD
? @PercyLucid: - Examples.
? @PercyLucid: Getting started
? @PercyLucid: - Importance of a Dream Journal.
? @PercyLucid: - Importance of a positive focus before going to bed.
? @PercyLucid: - Do(s) and Don't(s) before going to bed.
? @PercyLucid: Assignment:: Each student must start a mandatory dream journal and post in it for the duration of the course. Even if no dreams are recalled, feelings should be recorded. The professor will track the student and provide advice / answer questions.
Spectrum : alright
? @PercyLucid:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f85/mild-1-syllabus-103467/
? @PercyLucid:
there is the whole stuff that will take place during the classes
? @PercyLucid:
so, any more questions folks?
? Andromeda155 : Thanks for the class Percy, I'm going to head to bed.
limitless : thank you, percy
DawgBone : Thanks for the class, PL. See you next week
CrimsonStorm : None here.
Spectrum : Yeah, it's been great
? @PercyLucid:
OK WAIT
? Andromeda155 : Okay
? @PercyLucid: WBTBers
* CrimsonStorm ¦ waits
Spectrum : reporting.
? @PercyLucid:
Who is WBTBing right now
* Spectrum ¦? * Arbitror ¦? @PercyLucid:
please, close the chat DO NOT GO TO YOUR E-MAIL OR FACEBOOK
? DreamHacker : What if we already keep a dream journal on DV already does that count
? @PercyLucid:
you have been bombarded with the topic
? @PercyLucid:
so you want to not remove it away from your mind
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limitless : lol
? Andromeda155 : Okay will do. Thanks again.
? @PercyLucid:
yes DreamHacker,but make a link to your dream of the day in your workbok
? @PercyLucid:
so
? @PercyLucid:
who is WBTBing, close the PC, do a Reality Check
? @PercyLucid:
go drink some water, other RC
? @PercyLucid:
go to the restroom if you need for, other RC
? @PercyLucid:
go to bed, other RC
? @PercyLucid:
close your eyes
? @PercyLucid:
deep breath and affirm you will lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
keep focused on all we talked about
? @PercyLucid:
and happy lding
limitless : YAY!
? Andromeda155 : see ya next session
? Arbitror : Thank you.
? @PercyLucid:
thanks for comming guys
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? @PercyLucid:
I hope you enjoyed the class
Alsroge : Thanks, PercyLucid.
CrimsonStorm : Alright, thanks for the lesson, Percy!
Zelgius : Thanks so much! good night!
CrimsonStorm : It was great.
? @PercyLucid:
the next ones will be way more intense, this was more of an intruduction
Spectrum : Brilliant
CrimsonStorm : If that's it, then good night everyone, see you all next Wednesday!
? @PercyLucid:
you can now abandon this room, if you have questions go ahead, if not, we need to free it
Spectrum : Yep, hope to see you guys in chat and the workbooks
Spectrum : good night
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limitless : TY, bye
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? @PercyLucid:
bye
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? Arbitror : Goodbye.
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? @PercyLucid: Alsroge DreamHacker and Gamecheater thanks
Now exit the room plz
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? DreamHacker : Thanks PERCY night
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? @PercyLucid: thanks
••• ¦ Gamecheater ha sido expulsado por PercyLucid [Thanks!! See you over the Workbooks!
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? @PercyLucid: all done Akono slash112
? @PercyLucid: xD
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