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? @PercyLucid:
OK
? @PercyLucid:
we will start then
CrimsonStorm : I don't think so. I think it would be fun to be able to talk to all of my friends about it.
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? @PercyLucid:
it is obvious that people got confused with the schedule
? @PercyLucid:
the topic here at the DVA was wrong, Zebrah got confused apparently
? @PercyLucid:
I want to say first, good work on your workbooks
------» ¦ limbocity [webchat@DV-cd470783.optusnet.com.au] entra (entró antes como
CiudadDeLimbo)
? @PercyLucid:
most of them are updated daily, so well done
? @PercyLucid:
I am happy with the 12-14 people working on them... I feel bad for the schedule confusion
? @PercyLucid:
so, how do you feel after a week incubating the dessert?
Zelgius : amazed! =D
: limbocity : impatient
: limbocity : i need to learn to just take my time
CrimsonStorm : Improving, though still hopeful I can do better.
CrimsonStorm : And remember more. :-/
? @PercyLucid:
that is very nice to hear Zelgius
? @PercyLucid:
and well done to you all too!
Spectrum : hmm
Spectrum : Well, i'm getting there
? @PercyLucid:
daily improvement is what it takes
: theking : Like I said, my incubation is "working" just not to that level
: theking : like I saw the desert visage and I saw the computer to do my TotM
? @PercyLucid:
each of you goes at a different pace, but the workout pays off the same for each of you
? @PercyLucid:
Zelgius
? @PercyLucid:
you completed the task, but you lost the post as I read before
: limbocity : i'm using a level from a video game to incubate because I know it inside and out
? @PercyLucid:
do you have the dream in your journal?
: limbocity : is that okay?
CrimsonStorm : I've found it very helpful to wake myself up sometime in the night, just so I can reaffirm my goal and recall as many dreams as I can.
Zelgius : Yes, I updated in my log that I had the dream and that it would be posted in my dream journal
Zelgius : sorry for the confusions, would you have prefered that I copy it into my log?
? @PercyLucid:
yes please
? @PercyLucid:
it is crucial
? @PercyLucid:
you did the task
Zelgius : alright
? @PercyLucid:
I want easy read for all students
Zelgius : makes sense!
------» ¦ Arbitror [webchat@EB02D1.F712F7.D3E6CE.DEEE3B] entra
? @PercyLucid:
in fact, at the end ofthe class
? @PercyLucid:
I want you to do it
? @PercyLucid:
so I will at it at the top of the log
? @PercyLucid:
and
? @PercyLucid:
CONGRATS!!! Does it fill good, huh>
? @PercyLucid:
I am sure you jumped out of the bed!
Zelgius : It felt incredible! I was so proud of myself, and almost went to wake up my parents at 5 in the morning to tell them I did it haha
Zelgius : I wanted to share it with someone so badly XD
: theking : haha, awesome!
CrimsonStorm : That's really great!
Spectrum : Whoa
? @PercyLucid:
well
Zelgius : thanks guys
? @PercyLucid:
it is time for you to recall that feeling
: limbocity : yeah that is good
? @PercyLucid:
you will get to work on the basic task only now
? @PercyLucid:
the DV's basic task
? @PercyLucid:
to earn your WINGS
Zelgius : haha k
: theking : lucky
CrimsonStorm : Very.
? @PercyLucid: well
Spectrum : mmm
? @PercyLucid:
we are going to talk mainly about WBTB
Spectrum : Ah, brilliant
? @PercyLucid:
I am sure you all know what WBTB stands for, right?
: theking : yep
Zelgius : yes
? Arbitror : Yep.
: limbocity : yeah
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
Spectrum : of course
? @PercyLucid:
great, did not expect less
? @PercyLucid:
I will not need to explain what is it then
? @PercyLucid:
now
? @PercyLucid:
be honest and describe in one line, what do you do from the moment you open your eyes int he middle of the night
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until you go back to bed and try to fall asleep
: theking : Figure out where I am and what just happened
Spectrum : ok
: theking : seriously, it's almost always a shock when I wake up in the middle of the night...
: limbocity : Think "Oh I better write those dreams down... Nahh I'll remember them in the morning"
: limbocity : and i dont
Zelgius : I wonder whether or not it's better to go back to sleep or go to the bathroom. lol.
Zelgius : Limbo I do the same thing!
Spectrum : I'll usually get out of bed, update my dream journal if i can remember anything, then read threads on here for between 10 and 30 minutes, then go back to sleep
Zelgius : Then I hate myself for it.
? Arbitror : Walk across the room and turn off my alarm (it's on my laptop), convince myself I'm awake enough to go ahead and try to sleep again and lay down.
CrimsonStorm : Like, when we wake up naturally, or when we're doing a WBTB?
CrimsonStorm : Either way, mostly the same thing as limbo and Arbitror. Getting better, though.
? @PercyLucid:
either. I WBTB naturally, but if you need a clock, then both
? @PercyLucid:
ok
? @PercyLucid:
not bad (some)
CrimsonStorm : I don't wake up natrually that I remember, for some reason.
? @PercyLucid:
I like to describe my WBTB process... when I am focus (not lately) it works very well
: theking : a few times I've tried to do it (without an alarm so it's more natural) and I just fall back to sleep =\
? @PercyLucid:
you want to incubate while you WBTB, so i will explain how
? @PercyLucid:
first, when I wake up, I keep lying in bed, trying to recall my dream. If I feel that my dream recall is weak, I repeat the last scenery over and over until I get to my journal (it is in the other room, I do not have a table in my room)
? @PercyLucid:
I write down everything I can in my dream journal, any feeling I can recall, the last words said by a DC, or the last scenery
? @PercyLucid:
even if they are loose words such as "sunny - outdoors - girls in the park - wind - felt good"
? @PercyLucid:
I have not been updating my DV version of DJ due lack of time, but I did my paper one. For people who read my journal, will know that my fragments are recorded that way
? @PercyLucid:
then
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Once I wrote everything I can
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I keep sitting for five minutes looking at my journal, I do not look around, nothing, just my journal
? @PercyLucid:
usually I can recall a few more sceneries and sometimes I end up recalling an entire page
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then I go to the bathroom, I keep focusing on my previous dream hoping I can dig some more information
? @PercyLucid:
make sure you go to the bathroom, "something comes out, always!"
? @PercyLucid:
take your time
Zelgius : lol!
? @PercyLucid:
stay 5 minutes in the bathroom thinking about your previous dream
? @PercyLucid:
if you recalled everything, start to focus on your NEXT LUCID dream
? @PercyLucid:
Our body works mysteriously and it is very sensitive to preassure
? @PercyLucid:
if you push your body in a WBTB you might screw up because your body wants to keep sleeping
? @PercyLucid:
but if you do things that are normal if you wake up in the middle of the night
? @PercyLucid:
you will not put as much preassure as usually
? @PercyLucid:
so far
? @PercyLucid:
you probably spent 10 minutes in your journal and 5 at the bathroom
? @PercyLucid:
if you recalled more information, go back to your journal, write it down
CrimsonStorm : What do you do lighting-wise?
? @PercyLucid:
if not, start incubating your next dream
? @PercyLucid:
focusing
? @PercyLucid: (wait)
CrimsonStorm : k
? @PercyLucid:
focusing on your next dream, focus on your first scenery
? @PercyLucid:
like regular incubate
? @PercyLucid:
go drink some water, your body will appreciate it even if you are not thirsty... you will waste some more time too
? @PercyLucid:
so far you should have spent a good 20 minutes
? @PercyLucid:
go back to your bed (this is MILD, so your WBTB is slightly different that the regular ones that requires to read, stay 90 mins, etc)
? @PercyLucid:
lay down in a possition YOU WILL NOT fall asleep but are comfortable
? @PercyLucid:
Note: If you are very tired, you might end up falling asleep, and there is a big chance to trigger a WILD
? @PercyLucid:
but that is another whole story
? @PercyLucid:
while you are in your "not falling asleep" position, do a full incubation
? @PercyLucid:
if waking thoughs invaded your mind, do chest technique first
? @PercyLucid:
then incubate for five more minutes
? @PercyLucid:
once you are done
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affirm you will have a lucid dream and complete your goal
: limbocity : what's the chest technique?
? @PercyLucid:
feel yourself smiling
? @PercyLucid: (mmmm limbocity... that was on the logs!!!)
: limbocity : but i read the logs
: limbocity :
Zelgius : I don't remember the chest technique? o.O
Zelgius : unless i just don't recognize it by name
CrimsonStorm : Me either.
? @PercyLucid:
mmmm
? @PercyLucid:
that is odd!!!
: limbocity : i remember it being referred to
: theking : which class?
? @PercyLucid:
it is not in the syllabus :O
: limbocity : last class
? @PercyLucid:
am I dreaming?
? @PercyLucid:
nop lol
: limbocity : YES
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid:
sorry
Zelgius : LOL
: theking : haha
? @PercyLucid:
let me finish the WBTB and I explain the chest technique
CrimsonStorm : I wish, haha
: limbocity : okay
: theking : works for me!
? @PercyLucid:
once you are done with the chest technique, follow the DO's before falling asleep
? @PercyLucid:
feel yourself smiling and keep a static image/smell/sense/sound/taste in your mind
? @PercyLucid:
try to fight random thoughs the more the better
? @PercyLucid:
like I said last week
? @PercyLucid:
if you fall asleep with that image in your mind, it is easy to dreamit
? @PercyLucid:
speacially in a WBTB as your next REMs should be longer
? @PercyLucid:
you did not realize
? @PercyLucid:
but you spent a good 30 minutes doing this, focused only ontopic
? @PercyLucid:
without pushing your body
? @PercyLucid:
now I am going to do something my students always request
? @PercyLucid:
and it is a summary of the entire technique
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1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
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2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid:
3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid:
4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid:
5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid:
(25 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: Fernando Albert
? @PercyLucid: KSS International, Inc
? @PercyLucid:
[email protected]
? @PercyLucid: darn
? @PercyLucid:
last time happened the same
? @Alex : muahaha
? @Alex :
Zelgius : Haha
: limbocity : lolwut
Zelgius : Hmm is that your information, percy? hehehe
? @PercyLucid: (it is in mycopy-paste to add it to some e-mail (not nice as signature as I do not always add it)
? @PercyLucid: go ahead and e-mail me, I can give you some work xD
? @Alex :
: limbocity : lolol
? @PercyLucid: at
? @PercyLucid: good, that is in my copy paste now
? @PercyLucid:
? @Alex : oh
? @Alex : I thought its ur copmany
? @PercyLucid: Do a Reality Check
: theking : I do copy writing! lol
: limbocity : i'm not dreaming
? @PercyLucid: that is my new copy-paste thing (It is the company I am associate with Alex, I am a solo propiertor)
: theking : how many reality checks do you have?
? @Alex : mkay
? @PercyLucid:
shhh you all
? @PercyLucid: 18:39 ? @PercyLucid: 1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 ? @PercyLucid: 2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid:
6- Go back to bed. Lay down in a possition you will not fall asleep. Full incubation (30 mins so far)
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7- Do chest technique if needed and freeze a scenery in your head
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8- Try to fall asleep asleep afirming you will lucid dream
? @PercyLucid:
that is a summary of the steps
------» ¦ quorthonafull [webchat@DV-23b7d4a1.telecom.net.ar] entra
? @PercyLucid:
it is a very robust technique that works quite well
: limbocity : now chest technique
? @PercyLucid:
even if you are flooded by waking junk
? @PercyLucid: 18:39 ? @PercyLucid: 1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 ? @PercyLucid: 2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid:
you will increase the chances
? @PercyLucid:
now, chest technique
? @PercyLucid:
The chest technique is a little hard, but the more you use it, the better you will get at it
? @PercyLucid:
First, lay in bed or sit down in a quiet place
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then, visualize a chest in front of you, does not matter how is the chest, so do not ask Just, a chest...
? @PercyLucid:
open the chest and start to recall your entire day
Zelgius : Wait, human body chest or treasure kind of chest?
Zelgius : oh nvm
? @PercyLucid:
treasure kind xD
: limbocity : lol i thought the other one
Zelgius : ^ same haha
? Arbitror : Wow... Now that's all I'll think of trying this.
: theking : neat!
? @PercyLucid:
good point though, it is some sort of meditation so it is easy to confuse, this is nice of having different students to perfectionate this... that did not happen last class, so thanks for pointing it out
? @PercyLucid:
Open your treasure chest and recall your waking thoughs
? @PercyLucid:
the most recent one firsts
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recall your entire though such as, "My math teacher told us we are going to have a test in two days, geez, it is hard!", or, "I hope my client signs the contract!"
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recall the though entirely, give that to your mind... then visualize the though entering the chest
? @PercyLucid:
do this with all the thoughs wandering in your head
Spectrum : ok, question
? @PercyLucid:
put them inside the chest (wait plz)
Spectrum : ok
? @PercyLucid:
try to do this with as many thoughs as possible. You will work on recall (waking recall) so it improves all your recall (waking and dreaming) and also locking up the though tells your subsconscious to not access that information
? @PercyLucid:
once you recalled your entire day, lock up the chest
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and make it dissappear
? @PercyLucid:
this is harder than it sounds... it is hard to fight thoughs
? @PercyLucid:
but
? @PercyLucid:
it is way more efficient than you imagine
? @PercyLucid:
your conscious will not really understand the reason of this (I am sure you do not do entirely)
? @PercyLucid:
but it will do wonders with your subsconscious
? quorthonafull : great
? @PercyLucid:
now, time for questions on both wbtb and chest tech
Spectrum : ok, chest technique:
: limbocity : how is wtbt different from a long deild>
: limbocity : sorry spectrum
Spectrum : should i recall everything starting from the beginning of the day onwards, or should I go backwards from where I am at the time?
Spectrum : Because I've heard of a couple of techniques where you go backwards
: limbocity : i like the idea of backwards
? quorthonafull : and... sorry for being late, I got confused about the days.
Zelgius : "the most recent one firsts" he said
? @PercyLucid:
limbocity DEILD (actually my tuned up L-DEILD) will be explained next week, but has nothing to do with wbtn
: limbocity : yay backwards!
Zelgius : so backwards that seems
: limbocity : okay percy
CrimsonStorm : WBTB: How much light do you have on, usually?
? @PercyLucid:
Spectrum: recall what is more deep in your mind, but also, if you have time, recall your entire day
? @PercyLucid:
however
? @PercyLucid:
I forgot to say
? @PercyLucid:
before going to bed (at night, not at wbtb) you will do a FULL chest technique
? @PercyLucid:
during a wbtb
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if a waking though comes to your mind, summon the chest and place it in
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but DO NOT recall your entire waking day, NO NO NO NO
? @PercyLucid:
you only need the chest during a wbtb if a waking thoughs comes up to your mind, if none, do not even think in other think but dreams
Spectrum : oh ok
? @PercyLucid:
CrimsonStorm, about light... mmmmmmmm
? quorthonafull : I'll need a giant chest for WBTB, even for that few minutes
? @PercyLucid:
that is up to each one, I use a pale light for writing the dreams
? @PercyLucid:
to go to the bathroom no light for me
? @PercyLucid:
however
? @PercyLucid:
the less light, the better
? @PercyLucid:
you want to stay awake
? @PercyLucid:
but this is not a heavy WBTB, it is a small variation to aid MILD
? @PercyLucid:
more questions?
Zelgius : How far into the night should we wake up to WBTB?
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
CrimsonStorm : I was wondering about that too.
Spectrum : ah yeah
? @PercyLucid:
well
? @PercyLucid:
I do wake up naturally, and if you can, I prefer you doing it
? @PercyLucid:
if you sleep through the night
? @PercyLucid:
then clock for 6 hours
Zelgius : K.
? Arbitror : And if you only get around 6 hours of sleep?
? @PercyLucid:
the way I want you to WBTB, you will prevent alot of loose of sleep
? @PercyLucid:
well... that is a little too short, but then do 5 hours
? quorthonafull : here, the sunlight reaches my room at about 6 30 or 7
? quorthonafull : and I fall asleep at about 1:30
? quorthonafull : so...?
? @PercyLucid:
I have total blackness glasses
? Arbitror : Yeah, but life's been tough lately. I've been running on 2-3 hours of sleep max.
? @PercyLucid:
they are wonderful
Spectrum : I think i can manage 6 hours
Spectrum : if I'm asleep by 11:30 I guess, which is easy enough
? @PercyLucid:
well, Arbitror that happens to us all... I am trying to say the proper way
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but you need to accomodate
? @PercyLucid:
if you can sleep 2-3 hours per day, just sleep them through
? @PercyLucid:
it is unhealthy to sleep that little
: limbocity : yeh as above the only thing im sorried about is the loss of sleep
: limbocity : worried
? @PercyLucid:
yep, you should not be
? @PercyLucid:
with my technique you will not wake yourself too much
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and you will stay away from 15-30 mins
? @PercyLucid:
that is a slight lose of sleep
: limbocity : i guess it will encourage me to get to bed earlier
? @PercyLucid:
that is the reason I say my WBTB is milder than the regular full WBTB
: limbocity : yeh i see that now
? quorthonafull : it's MILDer (?)
? @PercyLucid:
it does a difference limbocity, trust me, when I go so late and when I go earlier
CrimsonStorm : nopunintended
CrimsonStorm :
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid:
HUGE differences
: limbocity : excellent
? @PercyLucid:
hhaha yep
? @PercyLucid:
now!
: limbocity : no more halo at 10
? @PercyLucid:
please, not!
: limbocity : lolol
Zelgius : Should we write down our dreams in a dream journal, or would it be okay to record them on a cellphone/computer?
? @PercyLucid:
videogames increases dream control a lot... and for some people increases lucid dreaming, but play it not before going to sleep!
? quorthonafull : dammit, i go to bed at about 0:30
Spectrum : I've been doing WBTB for a while, but i think I might have been waking up too early
: limbocity : can i incubate a desert from a video game?>
? @PercyLucid:
zelgius it is OK to record them on a cell / comp, however, at night
Spectrum : i think 3 out of the 4 lucid moments i had were after a WBTB
? @PercyLucid:
you want to avoid screens
? @PercyLucid:
they are too bright
? @PercyLucid:
how many of you do meditate?
CrimsonStorm : 2 of 3 of mine.
CrimsonStorm : Not me.
------» ¦ limiTless [webchat@DV-ec4ff782.cable.rogers.com] entra
: limbocity : not me
Zelgius : I don't meditate, but I'm interested in meditating
? @PercyLucid:
OK. Well
? quorthonafull : me too
CrimsonStorm : Yes, so am I.
? @PercyLucid:
meditating has a bazillon benefits
? @PercyLucid:
on the topic
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it increases lucidity
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and specially
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the lasting of your lucids
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when you meditate you slow your body down
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while meditating, it is possible to experience several alternates of conscious, but that is another whole world
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I have a particular technique
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that I love
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is it call the Breathing Technique
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it is the easiest meditation
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all you need to do is to close your eyes
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take a deep breath
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spend at least 5 seconds taking the breath
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then release the air, slowly, take 5 to 10 seconds
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when you release your air, visualize all your stress, waking thoughs, etc getting out of you
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there is a small hypnotic tech that I do like
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visualize a beach
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visualize yourself in the soft wet sand
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write your initials down, while you do, inhale
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then you will see the wave comming, hold your breath for 2-3 second while the wave comes
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exhale while you visualize the wave erasing your name and going back into the sea
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the process of the waves is similar to our breath
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that way it is easy to keep the count
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as counting seconds while youmeditate is not good
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once you get used to the timing
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you will just inhale and exhale without focusing on the beach
? @PercyLucid: (unless it relaxes you a lot, you can hold to it)
? @PercyLucid:
you do not want to fall asleep while you meditate
? @PercyLucid:
and there is not a certain moment to do it
? @PercyLucid:
you can meditate for 10 minutes
? @PercyLucid:
10 minutes a day, will do wonders
? @PercyLucid:
you can do more
? @PercyLucid:
but do not go below 10
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we all have 10 minutes to spend on
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as you can see
? @PercyLucid:
MILD is more of an art than a technique... it requires some work and time at the beginning, but this will become part of your lifestyle
? @PercyLucid:
and your dream recall / lucidity will be very robust
? @PercyLucid:
what do you think about this? any questions>
: limbocity : can you do it before sleeping?
? @PercyLucid:
yes, in fact, it is good to add it
: limiTless : sounds awesome
: theking : Kinda pumped to try all this tonight
? @PercyLucid:
after the chest technique
? @PercyLucid:
you will do it
? @PercyLucid:
not during a wbtb, but yes before going to sleep
: limbocity : sweetr
Spectrum : brilliant
: limbocity : without the r
: limiTless : i already know the chest tech, yay.
? @PercyLucid:
mediation will enhace your health too... as we never take deep breaths... so you will be channeling your energy properly and doing something good for your body
? @PercyLucid:
last thing
? @PercyLucid:
when your meditation timing becomes stable (2-3 weeks with daily practise)
? @PercyLucid:
you want to combite it with a full incubation
? @PercyLucid:
that will do wonders... but not for now, please
? @PercyLucid:
so, any questions on this?
? quorthonafull : on this no
CrimsonStorm : Nope, not really
? quorthonafull : I`ll read the log because I joined quite late
: limiTless : same
: limbocity : tut tut
? @PercyLucid:
great! I hope you are enjoying this
: limbocity : yes! best class
? @PercyLucid:
you need perseverance... I understand it is a load of work and sometimes is a bit frustrating, but remember
? Arbitror : Yeah, I was late too. I hurried here as fast as I could.
? @PercyLucid:
all you do, goes to your archievement pool
? @PercyLucid:
so if you get super-frustrated, just stop this technique for one day, give yourself a break
? @PercyLucid:
and then go back
? @PercyLucid:
all the incubations, chest tech, and mediations will add to your daily residue... so every day you increase a little bit the chances of lding
? quorthonafull : I had some delayers this week
? quorthonafull : emotional issues, fights with friends, and other things
? @PercyLucid:
yeah, do not worry
? @PercyLucid:
meditation will help a lot
? @PercyLucid:
specially for those situations
? @PercyLucid:
when you exhale quorthonafull
? @PercyLucid:
focus on those thoughs coming out of you
Spectrum : I used to do the whole breathing thing before i went to sleep
Zelgius : Ahh this class so far seems the most overwhelming haha, I'm going to have to reread the logs a couple times!
? @PercyLucid:
if you feel a little sorrow, bad filings can trigger
Spectrum : don't know why i stopped really
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid:
but it is good
CrimsonStorm : Haha, me too!
? @PercyLucid:
just get rid of them, if you are in sorrow and you need to cry, go ahead and do not feel bad
? @PercyLucid:
meditation gets rid of the bad stuff, and sometimes you need to cry it out
? @PercyLucid:
but you will feel rejuvenated afterwards
? @PercyLucid:
and way better
: * limiTless ¦ cries
: * limbocity ¦ nosebleeds
* Spectrum ¦ pokerfaces
: limiTless : (no way, still?!)
: limbocity : lol no
: limiTless : good
? quorthonafull : lol
: limbocity : but i havent wiped the blood off yet
: limiTless : ew
Zelgius : That is disgusting.
: limbocity : anyway back to percy
Spectrum :
Zelgius : lol that was quite off topic.
? @PercyLucid:
no problem
? @PercyLucid:
we are over third class
? @PercyLucid:
just one more
? @PercyLucid:
on your workboos
? @PercyLucid:
on your workbooks
Zelgius : Yay!
Spectrum : ahh shit
Spectrum : From now on
Spectrum : I'm gonna update it every day, i swear
? @PercyLucid:
I want to track your WBTBs please
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid:
and if you meditated or not
? @PercyLucid:
be honest
? Arbitror : I will get back into it, but as said earlier, life's been just awful.
? quorthonafull : I have to catch the habit again
: theking : will do
: limbocity : will do
? @PercyLucid:
well, it is understandable Arbitror, you specially want to meditate, it will do wonders to you
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid:
10 mins a day is easy for each individual
? Arbitror : I hope so, but it's more of having truckloads of work than anything emotional.
? @PercyLucid:
I know
? @PercyLucid:
same issues as me, proably
: limiTless : i still cant incubate that gawddamn desert, but the chest technique was awesome the first time i tired it
? Arbitror : However, I crashed and slept for 13 hours last night. I recalled 5 dreams, more than ever, and it gave me my first LD!
: theking : I definitely meditate at night, but WBTB is out of the question during the week
? @PercyLucid:
yep
? @PercyLucid:
thanks to REM-Rebound
? @PercyLucid:
it is not good though, because you lack sleep, but when you do not have other choice, it is welcomed
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Zelgius : Congrats Arbitror!
? @PercyLucid:
I want you all
? quorthonafull : congratz arb
? Arbitror : Yeah, it's not fun. Lol. Thanks.
? @PercyLucid:
to keep working on the dessert. If you stuggle, take a break one day
? @PercyLucid:
Zelgius
? @PercyLucid:
you will focus ONLY on the basic task
Zelgius : Darnit. I know this will be a really hard task for me.
? @PercyLucid:
Receive an IM message from someone
? @PercyLucid:
and then, the class is over! we went to a lot today!
Zelgius : How the heck do I put myself into a situation to reality check when it's something completely average!?
Spectrum : I'll see how it goes; i can probably do it most days
? @PercyLucid:
last class will be fun, trust me L-DEILD is awesome
Spectrum : wbtb, I mean
? Arbitror : Get an Im in an apple?
: theking : Great!
: limbocity : yay l-deild!!!
? @PercyLucid:
and thanks all for coming and working on your workbooks
Zelgius : Oh yeah I remember that from last weird hahaha
? quorthonafull : ok, thank You Percy for today's class
Spectrum : yeah, it's been great
? @PercyLucid:
a pleasure quorthonafull
: limbocity : thanks!!
Spectrum : sorry about not updating my workbook; I kind of missed one or 2 days then i just let it slip
Spectrum : I've of course been updating my dream journal though
CrimsonStorm : Same here. I'll be better this week.
Spectrum : I'll get back into my workbook from tomorrow
Zelgius : I'll go post my last LD on my workbook as you wanted
Zelgius : Thanks so much for the class! Good night!
? @PercyLucid:
thanks folks
? @PercyLucid:
you can abandon the DVA now
: limbocity : grr now i have to study >
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? quorthonafull : bye guys
? Arbitror : Thanks Percy. Later guys.
: limbocity : thanks again for the class
? quorthonafull : stay lucid!
: limbocity : bye everyone
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Spectrum : See you next time
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: limiTless : looking forward to reading the first part, i wont miss next class. Thanks percy!
? @PercyLucid: will send log later
: limiTless : awesome. thxx
CrimsonStorm : Alright, thanks Percy!
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Session Time: Fri Oct 08 00:00:00 2010
Session Close: Fri Oct 08 00:58:16 2010
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