Thread: Enjoy the circus, Intellectual Property

Originally Posted by poopman

What interesting times we live in. I am not a religious person at all, but think we are living in times that will be remembered. Do not think you can change anything, do not stress out about things when tshtf. Crack open a beer and watch. Enjoy the ride as we go through whatever is coming. Prepare accordingly but do not fool yourself by thinking you can avoid it. Like a sunset, enjoy it. Good luck.

For those who would like a discussion, the topic of this thread has been changed to Intellectual Property pros and cons - Xaq

i have to remind everyone why i started this thread before it got stolen from me. ha i crack myself up

Has everyone in America received a lobotomy? I will literally kill myself if people keep talking about charlie sheen as if he even fucking mattered. It seriously makes me sick to my stomach.
I guess there is a reason why America is one of the stupidest industrialized countries in the world. Enjoy the circus indeed.

Originally Posted by poopman

i have to remind everyone why i started this thread before it got stolen from me. ha i crack myself up

Crack open a beer and enjoy the thread.

Originally Posted by stormcrow

Has everyone in America received a lobotomy? I will literally kill myself if people keep talking about charlie sheen as if he even fucking mattered. It seriously makes me sick to my stomach.
I guess there is a reason why America is one of the stupidest industrialized countries in the world. Enjoy the circus indeed.

Hey guys, so just wonderin, you heard about Charlie Sheen's latest fiasco?
There's a whole thread about it here - Charlie sheening from 2 and a half man

Originally Posted by poopman

i have to remind everyone why i started this thread before it got stolen from me. ha i crack myself up

Just so you know, the thread topic change is the only thing that kept it from being moved to senseless banter.

To get this thread back on its original topic, I feel compelled to note that nobody arguing in favor of "intellectual property" really addressed my point that for something to be considered property, it needs to be possible to steal it. You can't steal an idea.

That being said, there were practical points brought up in its favor, of which I consider the most compelling to be Alric's point that in the absence of patent law, firms would be compelled to extend their advantage by making it increasingly difficult to figure out how their products work.

However I consider that to be merely a practical point. While I can't think of a good response to it, I don't think that we can allow us to lose sight of the importance of having a clear definition. What exactly is "intellectual property"?

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

To get this thread back on its original topic, I feel compelled to note that nobody arguing in favor of "intellectual property" really addressed my point that for something to be considered property, it needs to be possible to steal it. You can't steal an idea.

That being said, there were practical points brought up in its favor, of which I consider the most compelling to be Alric's point that in the absence of patent law, firms would be compelled to extend their advantage by making it increasingly difficult to figure out how their products work.

However I consider that to be merely a practical point. While I can't think of a good response to it, I don't think that we can allow us to lose sight of the importance of having a clear definition. What exactly is "intellectual property"?

Just in case you missed it, I posted some stuff on IP on the first page:

If you're interested, Stephan Kinsella has written a book called Against Intellectual Property, available here. It's fairly short (73 pages). I needs to get around to reading it some day.

I would like to point out that he looks at IP from a libertarian perspective, so you might have some issues with that.

There's also Against Intellectual Monopoly by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine, available here.

LimeWire Sued for $75 Trillion | Geekosystem

Jesus fuck. IP is seriously busted when a trial like this can even be brought forward. And on top of that, the White House issued a paper proposing that copyright infringement in all forms should become a felony. All of this in light of the MAFIAA's record profits. Factor in increasingly bothersome DRM (that doesn't do a damn thing to stop pirates), and that the government is now taking down websites that link to means of infringement without due process, and it's just...what the fuck? How is this madness allowed to continue?

Imagine sitting in prison "what're you in for?" "Oh, murder, rape and human trafficking. You?" "ahh.... I downloaded a couple of Britney Spears songs".

oops I did it again

Got lost in the game

Originally Posted by tommo

lost the game

Yes you did.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Yes you are clever.

Aw thanks Mario!

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-to-intro...p-bill-110511/

Sorry for the rezz, but this seems kinda sort of important.